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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    spudgun:
    So, by that logic, buying a new car probably is a very time consuming proces for you?

    No, it is fun. Selection is the key word here. Smiley

     

    Meeting the designers, befriending all of the employees, traveling around the world, visiting all the factories that supply the components for your car.  Checking all these people their curicculum vitae and work ethic.

    Where do you even find the time to drive 300 kph? wink

     

     Believe it or not but I know many people involved with 911 development and even met two engineers involved with R8 development at Audi Sport. I like this stuff a lot and whenever I get the chance, I try to meet people behind the products I drive (of course I couldn't care less about Mini development but funny enough, I have a friend working in BMW development who again has friends working in Mini development, so... Smiley). The benefit of driving locally (Bavaria) produced (well, almost...Porsche is in Baden Württemberg) cars, especially Audi and BMW. 

    It is easier to get close to development than many think, you just need to be a pain in the ass or be a nice guy...or both. Smiley Also, with high end cars, dealers usually offer opportunities of some sorts or another to get closer to the brand. Smiley


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    The Corvette plant in Bowling Green is suspending factory tours for 18 months. No explanation was given, but the rumour is that the plant is being re-tooled for production of a mid-engine Corvette. That would be very interesting indeed.

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a29781/mid-engine-corvette-2018-rumors/

    http://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/02/chevrolet-corvette-factory-tours-suspended-for-18-months/

     


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Woooo. Hopefully it's a full on exotic and not just moving from front-mid to rear-mid.


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    This is the typical dope who would purchase a Hellcat Demon.

    https://www.motor1.com/news/144306/camaro-open-exhaust-pops-airbags/

     

     


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    I guess that's one way to destroy your hearing. I don't know why people like loud exhaust.


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    If you think you've seen it all - some idiot tops it......


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    BjoernB:

    If you think you've seen it all - some idiot tops it......

    kiss I assume the airbags popped because of some sorts of electrical malfunction, not because of the sound but maybe the impact sensors malfunctioned due to noise/vibration, who knows?! Also driving with a race harness and full roll cage on public roads without a helmet, this guy must have a death wish.

    I love loud exhausts but completely by-passing the muffler is just crazy and since the ZL1 is supercharged, I am pretty sure that by-passing the muffler the throttle response, boost pressure buildup, torque, power, etc. are messed up as well.

    To each his own I guess but I know this stuff from my GT500 days and probably a third of the reason I sold my car was having to deal with morons who think that a 60k car can be modded to 850 to 1000 hp without any serious impact on safety and driveability. Biggest genius was one guy driving a formerly speed limited(!) tuned GT500 convertible at speeds exceeding 340(!) kph on the Autobahn. Ford has limited the speed on the convertible because the soft top can't take more than 270 kph (speed limitation was actually set at 256 kph as far as I remember).

    This happens if you give such "cheap" hp monsters into the hands of inexperienced morons. LOL


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    there are so many things wrong in that video heart


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    I just don't get the name calling and hostility. Is that required?


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Leawood911:

    I just don't get the name calling and hostility. Is that required?

    In this particular case I think it is called for.

    What people do on private roads/tracks alone, I couldn't care less but public roads and a passenger? Nope.
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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    RC:
    Leawood911:

    I just don't get the name calling and hostility. Is that required?

    In this particular case I think it is called for.

    What people do on private roads/tracks alone, I couldn't care less but public roads and a passenger? Nope.
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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    True. One should never speed or take risks on public roads and with passengers. Ever consider that the principal difference between you and that guy is you have more money and no speed limit on the autobahn?  Just something to consider next time you hit top speed with your family in the car. We like our RC and just want you to keep safe!


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Leawood911:
    RC:
    Leawood911:

    I just don't get the name calling and hostility. Is that required?

    In this particular case I think it is called for.

    What people do on private roads/tracks alone, I couldn't care less but public roads and a passenger? Nope.
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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     

    True. One should never speed or take risks on public roads and with passengers. Ever consider that the principal difference between you and that guy is you have more money and no speed limit on the autobahn?  Just something to consider next time you hit top speed with your family in the car. We like our RC and just want you to keep safe!

    What you just wrote is utter nonsense. With a full roll cage and no helmet, you are...dead (at least brain dead Smiley Smiley) even in some otherwise "harmless" accidents. A simple rollover, which often actually reduces impact energy because the energy is "burned" in the rollover, leaving the passengers basically unharmed (especially if the car is equipped with various airbags), can lead to a deadly head injury. At least he could have covered the roll cage with some foam/whatever but even a simple bump, lifting his head towards the roll cage, could seriously hurt him. Just dumb.

    Won't even start to comment on the harness, same stupid thing on public roads.

    I wasn't really commenting on the exhaust or whatever mods this guy applied to his car, you got this wrong.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Just be safe. I think you missed my point.  I also don't think that swearing is called for regardless. 


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Leawood911:

    Just be safe. I think you missed my point.  I also don't think that swearing is called for regardless. 

    Swearing? Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Not you. Just in this thread and in others. The f-bomb seems to be frequent these days. Just saying 


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Fuck isn't a swear word in German. You have to add "you knee" to it for it to be offensive.


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    noone1:

    Fuck isn't a swear word in German. You have to add "you knee" to it for it to be offensive.

    LOL Not true but nice try...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    He should have taken the car back to dealer to fix the airbag. I suspect it would have been covered under warranty. I must getting old. When I first saw his girlfriend I thought it was his little sister no more than 10 years old.yes


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Welcome Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody

    New steering, improved track capabilities (better traction, better lateral acceleration), same power.

    Price around 72k USD incl. gas guzzler tax.

    Can be ordered at US dealers starting July 2017, first cars go to customers around autumn.

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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Saw a couple Demons the other day. The tires had practically no tread. 


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    If I would live in one of the flat states in the US, I would get this car ! blush


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    me to - with 345/30/20 in front and back making it THE trackweapon indecision for a fraction of the Price. we would all meet at Mike's track every week-end  


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    BjoernB:

    me to - with 345/30/20 in front and back making it THE trackweapon indecision for a fraction of the Price. we would all meet at Mike's track every week-end  

    Smiley

    Not sure I would get this one...the tire cost would probably kill any cost advantage vs other sports cars over time. Smiley


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    noone1:

    Saw a couple Demons the other day. The tires had practically no tread. 

    The Demon is the drag racer only (can barely turn while at parking speeds).  This Red car is quite different...


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    I wonder how much weight you can shed off this car to make it lighter. 100 kg less should be easily possible if you rip out all the comfort stuff...maybe even 200 kg if you go wild.


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Coooool..! blush


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Drive shaft on a Hellcat that was in for repairs: 

    https://i.redd.it/5m8k4kuimkez.jpg

    no


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    JoeRockhead:

    Drive shaft on a Hellcat that was in for repairs: 

    https://i.redd.it/5m8k4kuimkez.jpg

    no

    How could the tires have enough traction for this to happen?


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Grant:
    JoeRockhead:

    Drive shaft on a Hellcat that was in for repairs: 

    https://i.redd.it/5m8k4kuimkez.jpg

    no

    How could the tires have enough traction for this to happen?

    Could have had slicks on it. Smiley


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    JoeRockhead:
    Grant:
    JoeRockhead:

    Drive shaft on a Hellcat that was in for repairs: 

    https://i.redd.it/5m8k4kuimkez.jpg

    no

    How could the tires have enough traction for this to happen?

    Could have had slicks on it. Smiley

    Slicks, sticky tarmac, "perfect" traction situation...shouldn't happen though, under any circumstances. Smiley

    Well, I managed to break(!) the drive shaft on my Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16V, a bit too much power (I was able to lift the car with the front a couple of centimeters from the ground when fully accelerating Smiley)...had close to 300 hp in the street version, water injection and all. Smiley Smiley


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