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    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

    Thanks Gaz.

    Change gears with thumbs? I tried that on my Yukon and the radio station changed.

    I have realized something from all my test drives... Driving a 997 (Base or S) with only a few miles on odo does not have the acceleration of one with even a couple hundred miles on it. If you are in the market, I'd recommend driving one that has been broken in... or you could let yourself be pleasantly surprised after a few months of ownership. I can't remember the odo on the TIP but low miles may have been one of the reasons for the difference in acceleration compared to manual.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

    The pros/cons of manual vs. auto transmission is a longstanding "debate" and not likely to achieve any resolution since it's a matter of preference, which Porsche clearly understands. However, deriding another fellow's choices because they're not consistent with your own is not a commendable feature of character, IMHO. Ego is often the most vulnerable of investments.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

    Whatever happened to Ruf's EKS electronic clutch transmission ? You don't see it mentioned these days - and yet it sounded like a really good compromise. No clutch pedal to irritate in stop/go traffic, and yet a manual box and shift.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic

    Helios....finally, someone from Tokyo as myself!!!

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

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    DaveC said:
    The pros/cons of manual vs. auto transmission is a longstanding "debate" and not likely to achieve any resolution since it's a matter of preference, which Porsche clearly understands. However, deriding another fellow's choices because they're not consistent with your own is not a commendable feature of character, IMHO. Ego is often the most vulnerable of investments.





    I'd rather have an automatic as my daily driver but I want the most out of my first Porsche. When it comes in, my 997SCab 6sp will be my daily driver. Cabriolet = lost performance but you get sun on face & wind in hair. TIP = lost performance (even more than cab) but you get hassle free driving in town while eating and talking on cell.

    Maybe I'm getting the wrong car... I can see my cheeseburger wrapper flying out the open top and my Coke spilling all over the place while taking a curve too fast. Oh... and not being able to hear the person on the cell phone because of wind noise and PSE!

    No deriding here.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

    Q.E.D.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

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    GA5656 said:
    I have realized something from all my test drives... Driving a 997 (Base or S) with only a few miles on odo does not have the acceleration of one with even a couple hundred miles on it.



    This is very true. My tip C2 has become noticeably quicker as the miles go by and the box allows aggressive shifting and holds gears when you need it to as well. I bought my car of the showroom floor to avoid the long waiting list there was at the time in the UK and had to accept the tiptronic if I wanted the car. I've got to say I've grown to like it. Though it will never replace the thrill of a 6 speed manual it has been a bonus when stuck in heavy traffic and driving around cities.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

    Too right - the 997S manual I took out from PCEL (reg 911 BOW) last year as my test drive had only 40 miles on the clock when I drove it and it was far to tight to get an adequate picture of the eventual performance.

    I ordered the tip anyhow as I'd already had one on my Boxster and knew what to expect. I've no regrets, although I wouldn't rule out owning the manual again sometime in the future (perhaps when I'm no longer living in London).

    But has been said repeatedly here, if you order the tip, get the sport chrono - the difference it makes to the automatic shift pattern is huge. It really is Jekyll and Hyde.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

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    dweiser said:
    I have no P-car (yet) and hence no manual to read so allow me to ask this newbie question. Will I have steering wheel shifters/paddles/switch(es) on my 06 997 C4 Tip when it arrives? I know I can (should) ask my salesperson but I've already driven him quite crazy so will ask here.
    Thanks.



    You can download the 997 user's manual from http://www.renntech.org. You may need to register first.

    Re: Standard vs. Tiptronic - Porsches Choice

    I took delivery of my 997S Tip equipped car last weekend. Having had a six speed 996 (and having been throughly pleased with it) - I was skeptical of the transmission. However, my sales guy recommened it given my long commute and sang the praises of the Tip. I did a deal with my dealership - I would order the car with Tip - if I didn't like it in the first two weeks they would buy it from me at what I paid (provided low miles) and I could just order a new six speed or take one from their pre-order list if available.

    I have to say - the car and transmission are amazing. The transmission "learns" how aggressive I want to drive. If In fully auto mode, when accelerating continuously, if I abruptly take my foot off the accelerator, it will downshift for me, rev the engine up, and let out some great sounds. I am very, very pleased with the car and the transmission. It is a lot of fun. Make no mistake - the car is very, very involving. I've never raced, not a professional, etc. I can only tell you that I am surprised this transmission is that "intelligent". Given this level of satisfaction and my commute, in hind sight I would not go for the standard and would definitely not go back to the 996.

    BTW - other items that have surprised me include - after selecting daylight running lights (through chrono package menu option) - when you start the car - it is cool to see the lights self-adjust by going down, up high - then back to the middle.

    Also - cool to see the chrono display go from completely dark to fully lit when driving and activating it at night.

     
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