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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    RC:
    Gnil:

    Drove my car around my usual little back roads today . Had not done that since end of break in .

    This engine is just crazy . Definitely better then .1 . More alive,  so much more nervous, the responsiveness is incredible , instant .  The difference to .1 is much more then the paper 20 HP . 

    I probably have one of these rare cars that come to customers with a ' secret treatment '  . Thanks RS for giving them my name smiley

    According to bluelines, this only happens to meSmiley

    Yes, the 991.2 GT3 RS engine is definitely better than the 991.1 engine, told you before that the switch is worth it. Also, it looks right now as if this really was the last n/a RS (991.2). If true, you got yourself a real treat. Smiley

    Hold up Mr Christian 

    Youve heard more, with reference to the 991GT3 being the last of the N/A..Smiley...Seriously, or just the latest rumour..Smiley.


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    throt:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    Drove my car around my usual little back roads today . Had not done that since end of break in .

    This engine is just crazy . Definitely better then .1 . More alive,  so much more nervous, the responsiveness is incredible , instant .  The difference to .1 is much more then the paper 20 HP . 

    I probably have one of these rare cars that come to customers with a ' secret treatment '  . Thanks RS for giving them my name smiley

    According to bluelines, this only happens to meSmiley

    Yes, the 991.2 GT3 RS engine is definitely better than the 991.1 engine, told you before that the switch is worth it. Also, it looks right now as if this really was the last n/a RS (991.2). If true, you got yourself a real treat. Smiley

    Hold up Mr Christian 

    Youve heard more, with reference to the 991GT3 being the last of the N/A..Smiley...Seriously, or just the latest rumour..Smiley.

    Last week some decisions were made as far as I heard and apparently it didn't involved just the Diesel but other topics as well. This is all I know. Of course this can change any time but for now, I'd say n/a cars are mostly done. I just got some information on the changes on the R8 n/a V10 engine to cope with the new WLTP stuff and the particulate filter, they had to use completely new cylinder heads to be able to keep the power (actually 10 hp more for the facelift but in reality, I'd say nothing much has changed in regards of real life performance).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Interesting,,

    So, mine could be a keeper indecision.. It it does happen and rumours surface it’ll be a huge bunfight for the last allocations of the 3.2RS no..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I wonder what this will mean for the GT2RS down the line. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Enmanuel:

    I wonder what this will mean for the GT2RS down the line. 

    Excellent point and I have no idea Smiley...If it all comes to fruition of course.. Smiley...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Ah, some good old rumors again, which can all change indecision


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    bluelines:

    Ah, some good old rumors again, which can all change indecision

    Still have that GTS, bud ?....


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    throt:
    bluelines:

    Ah, some good old rumors again, which can all change indecision

    Still have that GTS, bud ?....

    It is a keeper buddy Smiley Eating slow NA GT3s for breakfast.


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    bluelines:
    throt:
    bluelines:

    Ah, some good old rumors again, which can all change indecision

    Still have that GTS, bud ?....

    It is a keeper buddy Smiley Eating slow NA GT3s for breakfast.

    Smiley,,

    ’’The Killah’’ Smiley...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    There are 4 points which make me a doubtful about whether the 992 will be anything else but NA:

    • if the 992 GT3/RS went hybrid, Porsche wouldn't start with their GT range of cars, but rather with their regular 911s first
    • there hasn't been a "final NA-edition" GT3 car yet
    • there is a spypic with what looks to be a 992 GT3 Touring and it clearly looks to be a non-turbo car
    • Walliser and Preuninger's interviews all hint that the GT3/RS continue to be NA. 

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    2018 White 911 GT3


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gauss:

    There are 4 points which make me a doubtful about whether the 992 will be anything else but NA:

    • if the 992 GT3/RS went hybrid, Porsche wouldn't start with their GT range of cars, but rather with their regular 911s first
    • there hasn't been a "final NA-edition" GT3 car yet
    • there is a spypic with what looks to be a 992 GT3 Touring and it clearly looks to be a non-turbo car
    • Walliser and Preuninger's interviews all hint that the GT3/RS continue to be NA. 

    If I were the Porsche marketing team I'd hold out on that one. And after the 992 full "standard" range has been announced as not being NA then, after everyone has lost all hope, announce they're going to do one model using 100 leftover NA engines that happened to have, in a 992 body for a super limited run at a ridiculous price tag. The allocations will be gone before the announcement is over. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    The 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 was the last Mezger "special" and it came out right inbetween the model change (from 997 to 991).


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    2018 White 911 GT3


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gauss:

    The 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 was the last Mezger "special" and it came out right inbetween the model change (from 997 to 991).

    Yes. Still we don't hear many here on the forum chasing this magic last Mezger. Just like no one will chase the last NA. The next non-NA GT3 will be so much faster than the current one that no one will care about the turbo or hybrid or bicycle pedals or whatever it will use.

    Lets face the ugly truth, if they don't add another power source to the next GT3 then it will see itself lapped by the standard Carrera and no one in a "motorsport" 911 want to be lapped by a four-wheel drive 911 with sunroof and rear seats Smiley


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    bluelines:
    Gauss:

    The 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 was the last Mezger "special" and it came out right inbetween the model change (from 997 to 991).

    Yes. Still we don't hear many here on the forum chasing this magic last Mezger. Just like no one will chase the last NA. The next non-NA GT3 will be so much faster than the current one that no one will care about the turbo or hybrid or bicycle pedals or whatever it will use.

    Lets face the ugly truth, if they don't add another power source to the next GT3 then it will see itself lapped by the standard Carrera and no one in a "motorsport" 911 want to be lapped by a four-wheel drive 911 with sunroof and rear seats Smiley

    The last NA will have a much bigger impact than the last Mezger. Smiley I can imagine it will be like air-cooled vs water-cooled in the decades to come.


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    2018 White 911 GT3

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gauss:
    bluelines:
    Gauss:

    The 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 was the last Mezger "special" and it came out right inbetween the model change (from 997 to 991).

    Yes. Still we don't hear many here on the forum chasing this magic last Mezger. Just like no one will chase the last NA. The next non-NA GT3 will be so much faster than the current one that no one will care about the turbo or hybrid or bicycle pedals or whatever it will use.

    Lets face the ugly truth, if they don't add another power source to the next GT3 then it will see itself lapped by the standard Carrera and no one in a "motorsport" 911 want to be lapped by a four-wheel drive 911 with sunroof and rear seats Smiley

    The last NA will have a much bigger impact than the last Mezger. Smiley I can imagine it will be like air-cooled vs water-cooled in the decades to come.

    This, and look at aircooled prices, they are higher and higher, and nobody cares that they are slow. The last NA GT car is going to be like that.


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gauss:

    There are 4 points which make me a doubtful about whether the 992 will be anything else but NA:

    • if the 992 GT3/RS went hybrid, Porsche wouldn't start with their GT range of cars, but rather with their regular 911s first
    • there hasn't been a "final NA-edition" GT3 car yet
    • there is a spypic with what looks to be a 992 GT3 Touring and it clearly looks to be a non-turbo car
    • Walliser and Preuninger's interviews all hint that the GT3/RS continue to be NA

    Not up to them I'm afraid... Of course everyone wants to see n/a cars but the challenges, especially for future emissions standards, are pretty big, so... 

    Unless the tech changes as well, new stuff can be available in a year or two, making it maybe easier possible to offer n/a cars or maybe in combination with mild hybrid tech, whatever. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Also Porsche’s current CEO, Oliver Blume, mentioned in an interview that they wanted to offer NA in their GT3 cars for as long as they can comply with the emissions regulations.


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    2018 White 911 GT3

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gauss:

    Also Porsche’s current CEO, Oliver Blume, mentioned in an interview that they wanted to offer NA in their GT3 cars for as long as they can comply with the emissions regulations.


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    2018 White 911 GT3

     

    This is the challenge here...very complicated process. Developing high efficiency turbo engines with mild hybrids and high performance n/a engines at the same time is a challenge, even for Porsche.

    I hope the rumors are wrong, of course but it seems that VW Group has made a decision.

    Good thing is: Porsche also plans to concentrate more on traditions and sportscars than in the past, so this could be a good thing, even if I still think that their main business will be SUVs and at some point, ELVs.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    My Kermit the happy frog Lizard Green really pops. I'll pick it up later today.

    For some reason I cannot upload the pictures.Smiley

     

     

     

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:

    My Kermit the happy frog Lizard Green really pops. I'll pick it up later today.

    For some reason I cannot upload the pictures.Smiley

    Congratulations, sir! Smiley

    It will be interesting to hear how different your new GT3 RS feels compared to the GT3! Smiley

    Look forward to seeing the pics... Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Dave and I had our usual trip to one of the Swiss Porsche Cup  race and joined in the training sessions . Always a true pleasure as you get not only to drive the track but you get also all the racing atmosphere , see the teams etc...

    This time it was  at Mugello . It is my favorite track after the Nordschliefe . Just wonderful elevation changes , a mixe of  fast and  technical corners , all set in the pretty surroundings of Tuscany . 

    I can't say it  enough . The 991.2 GT3 RS is such an achievement !!!!!! So tactile , so much feed back , sharp as a scalpel, all is emotions , from flipping the paddles , which gives you an adrenaline shot through the fingers , to turning the steering wheel which makes you think you drive a go-kart , to the sceeming of the engine, the instant response ,   and the excellent work of the suspensions . This car is all about driving pleasure . Pure as a car can be today .

    Had a go with a 991.1  GT3... in comparison the steering felt like I was driving a Carrera , so did the gear boxe .  The engine was not such a difference , except the RS pulls more . 

    The geometry I have on the car now is also pure art . Could not be better .Back spoiler to full downforce does slow me down on the straights, but then through those fast corners, it feels there is no end to grip !

    Only complained could be more power on the straights ,  there is still room for suspension improvement , breaks could be better and of course shave some weight off . 

    LOVE the car !!!!!!!! could not be happier ! 

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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    On the way back we stoped at SuperDarius' s place near Milano  . Met his big dog indecision

    He took us to the usual good local restaurant . We all had a nice car chat , and of course discussing the RT discussions Smileysmiley

    I went back through the Saint Bernard pass . Was a beautiful day  with driving close to 700 km .

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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Brilliant guys! Sad I had to skip that one! Look forward to try a 991.2 RS one day to feel the difference.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Thanks for sharing Gnil! kisswink

    Can't wait to get back to a track indecision


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Thank you for posting.....looks perfectSmiley

    Enjoy in good health


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Indeed, that RS really is a weapon.. Hope to get my hands on one at some point and finish off that restaurant photo indecision

    Great to see you guys again wink

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Great pics guys. Keep saying it but I would love a go at it.

    Cheers..kiss..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    @ Porker and Bluelines  : Hope next year we can all be at a track event together .

    @ David : Nice pic . Did not know you took those !

    @ Throt :  You only live onces . What about joining Dave and I ( maybe Bluelines would also come ?? ) next year at the Ring when we do our usual event(s)  . We probably will do DN again, end of August . Registrations are usually quite early in the year  and one needs to be fast to secure a spot . Just do it !  Would be fun .


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Thanks for the invite, truly appreciated, Gnil. Would be fantastic. However,, due to past unexpected happenings the past 4 month, just over,  I now have massive responsibilities. Plus, next August I have a 3 week cruise planned. So, the next 12 months is solid for me but I really want to get over to meet you all even if I just watch you guys go around in circles because you lot will spank me, never had track experience so I will poodle around until I learn what’s what indecision..Still think I would beat blue though in his Killah indecision, no sweat..kiss... 

    Love the pics, keep them coming..

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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Fantastic pics from you all, posts like these are why Rennteam is so great.  

    Shame the Hairy Chested one couldn't make the trip smiley


     
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