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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    SciFrog:

    For sound my AM Vantage with Larini exhaust trounces them all. Modern Ferrari can't come close.

    My Maserati QP with Larini Smiley sound so good that makes every little drive a wonderful and special event, even to go to the grocery down the road I take the Mazzi, it's a down hill so the engine just burbles and gurgles like no other thing I've heard, on my way back up hill I put 2gear and just go from 1500rpm till 3000rpm slowly "rrrooooooohhh" epic sound Smiley


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    997.2 Cab 2S

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    BMW X5 4.4i V8


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Ugly Aerokit for 991 Turbo/Turbo S will be new option within next few days.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    lol.  so history will repeat itself......


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    we wait for 992 turbo already

    the days of 991 turbo are going to its end....


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    You guys remember when I claimed that the SPORT AUTO Supertest dyno measurements for the 991 Turbo S were incorrect? SPORT AUTO claimed that the test car had 607 hp. I claimed that, based on my information, they had used an incorrect correction factor and many here didn't believe me.

    In the latest SPORT AUTO, they finally admit it.  Very interesting article about dyno testing in general (using a 991.1 Turbo S).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    RC:

    You guys remember when I claimed that the SPORT AUTO Supertest dyno measurements for the 991 Turbo S were incorrect? SPORT AUTO claimed that the test car had 607 hp. I claimed that, based on my information, they had used an incorrect correction factor and many here didn't believe me.

    In the latest SPORT AUTO, they finally admit it.  Very interesting article about dyno testing in general (using a 991.1 Turbo S).

    I don't recall anyone arguing with you Smiley

    The idiots inputted the OBD intake temperature which was used for the correction factor calculation. this was 62 C which is pretty high and led to an inaccurate correction

    It's funny, Gemballa and a few of the other not so credible engine guys used to do this trick all the time years ago ie using the post intercooler intake temperature as the Ausauglufttemperatur when they should be using the ambient air temperature going into the air filter,   

    It is even more complicated now as modern turbo cars like this one adjust the boost constantly and allow for atmospheric pressure and ambient temperature to quite a degree so applying any type of correction is becoming a debatable point. 

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

     Autumn in the Pacific NW  - 2017 

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    NSXER:

     Autumn in the Pacific NW  - 2017 

     


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    2015 Jet Black TT

     

    Great photo... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


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    What a stunning pic NSXer! Brilliant! kiss


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    Porsche, separates Le Mans from Le Boys


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    Thanks....

    This photo ↓↓↓ was the inspiration to try it again this year - from  2013 -  previous '13 C2S (Sport Design).

    Excellent car also!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    MKSGR:

    Very fast:

    https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/supertest-porsche-911-turbo-s-schnelle-runde-nordschleife-12896923.html

    Smiley

    (On normal PZero Corsa tires)

    "Normal"? Smiley Highly refined semi-slick but OK, no AMG trickery (GT R, two different semi-slicks available).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Somehow that driver was able to do better than I did with the non-S indecision

    Fun to watch - interesting that still nearly 5 seconds slower than Porsche's time with GT3.  How was Supertest time of GT3?


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    RC:
    MKSGR:

    Very fast:

    https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/supertest-porsche-911-turbo-s-schnelle-runde-nordschleife-12896923.html

    Smiley

    (On normal PZero Corsa tires)

    "Normal"? Smiley Highly refined semi-slick but OK, no AMG trickery (GT R, two different semi-slicks available).

    Well, I use these exact same tires on my daily driver. So yes, normal tires.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    What was the previous time for the 991 tts?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    MKSGR:

    Very fast:

    https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/supertest-porsche-911-turbo-s-schnelle-runde-nordschleife-12896923.html

    Smiley

    (On normal PZero Corsa tires)

    Yes, 7.17,11min very fast indeed. On Corsa N0 tires.

    For comparison 991.2 GT3 on Cup 2 N1 7.18min which implies that 991.2 Turbo S is a lot faster.

    Just look at speed difference at Döttinger Höhe, 283km/h Vs 299km/h...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Grant:

    Somehow that driver was able to do better than I did with the non-S indecision

    Fun to watch - interesting that still nearly 5 seconds slower than Porsche's time with GT3.  How was Supertest time of GT3?


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    Grant,

    991.2 TS is actually faster. Read my comment above.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    the "minor" difference is that the Turbo will shred the street tires in no time whereas the GT3 does not it's cup's - why so many people fall for this is amazing me....


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    MKSGR:
    RC:
    MKSGR:

    Very fast:

    https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/supertest-porsche-911-turbo-s-schnelle-runde-nordschleife-12896923.html

    Smiley

    (On normal PZero Corsa tires)

    "Normal"? Smiley Highly refined semi-slick but OK, no AMG trickery (GT R, two different semi-slicks available).

    Well, I use these exact same tires on my daily driver. So yes, normal tires.

    I thought you drive the PZero?


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    BjoernB:

    the "minor" difference is that the Turbo will shred the street tires in no time whereas the GT3 does not it's cup's - why so many people fall for this is amazing me....

    Yeah, it would be interesting to see the wear and tear. Being able to do one hot lap is great, and maybe it's quicker than a GT3, but if your tires are toast that's kinda misleading about whether it's higher performance or not. It means that on average, the GT3 would be quicker.

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    noone1:
    BjoernB:

    the "minor" difference is that the Turbo will shred the street tires in no time whereas the GT3 does not it's cup's - why so many people fall for this is amazing me....

    Yeah, it would be interesting to see the wear and tear. Being able to do one hot lap is great, and maybe it's quicker than a GT3, but if your tires are toast that's kinda misleading about whether it's higher performance or not. It means that on average, the GT3 would be quicker.

     

    I doubt that the 991.2 Turbo S could keep up with the GT3 over a couple of rounds on the Nordschleife but is it really necessary? Still impressive time. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    RC:
    MKSGR:
    RC:
    MKSGR:

    Very fast:

    https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/supertest-porsche-911-turbo-s-schnelle-runde-nordschleife-12896923.html

    Smiley

    (On normal PZero Corsa tires)

    "Normal"? Smiley Highly refined semi-slick but OK, no AMG trickery (GT R, two different semi-slicks available).

    Well, I use these exact same tires on my daily driver. So yes, normal tires.

    I thought you drive the PZero?

    I switched to the Corsa when they became available - but the car is on winter tires right now Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Latest info. Production of 991.2 Turbo models will need this year. So, no new cars in 2019. Porsche needs to prepare everything for 992 Carrera models production. Also, 992 Turbo will be introduced earlier then anticipated.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Kreso maybe you have updated info about production of 991.2 GT3RS to EU after factory summer break?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    991.2 GT3 RS will be produced till February 2019 for sure.


     
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