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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Very true, it is all relative.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    RC:

    Base version is rumored to come with 600 or 605 hp, the 630 hp performance package is optional. AWD is also rumored to be optional, not standard.

    I wonder it will will have a Drift mode like AMG, where the front axle can be disconnected?


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Targa Tim:
    SciFrog:

    We rarely see Panamera turbo and turbo S on the roads these days, the are a rip off and people know it.

    that's true, but compare to a Honda accord or Toyota corolla, ALL our cars are rip off and we know it.

    +1.  Very true indeed. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    SciFrog:

    We rarely see Panamera turbo and turbo S on the roads these days, the are a rip off and people know it.

    I drive one!  

    Best

    Ripoff

    Ever


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    Mike

    918 Spyder + 991 GT3 RS +Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S + Panamera Turbo +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Targa Tim:
    SciFrog:

    We rarely see Panamera turbo and turbo S on the roads these days, the are a rip off and people know it.

    that's true, but compare to a Honda accord or Toyota corolla, ALL our cars are rip off and we know it.

    GT cars depreciate less than a Honda Accord Smiley


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    W8MM:
    SciFrog:

    We rarely see Panamera turbo and turbo S on the roads these days, the are a rip off and people know it.

    I drive one!  

    Best

    Ripoff

    Ever

    I see that you drive only "rip off" cars......Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    The next Turbo S will not be a rip-off but a very expensive exclusive car (for a while).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    RC:

    The next Turbo S will not be a rip-off but a very expensive exclusive car (for a while).


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Targa Tim:
    SciFrog:

    We rarely see Panamera turbo and turbo S on the roads these days, the are a rip off and people know it.

    that's true, but compare to a Honda accord or Toyota corolla, ALL our cars are rip off and we know it.

    There's a big big big difference between a crappy $20k car that's capable of taking you to your destination vs $200k rip off car, that's 'supposed' to deliver all types of excitement, until you end up with a faulty part and the never ending recalls till the end of production line and your case is forgotten or warranty expired (case closed) Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    BiTurbo:
    RC:

    The next Turbo S will not be a rip-off but a very expensive exclusive car (for a while).

    You saw right through me... Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

     

    Look what I stumbled upon

     

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    AARP gathering?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Ha!

    Had to Google AARP first though. I have not reached 50 yet!

    Motoring press drive day in wine country in NSW. Later in the week the OPC's are bringing up their sales teams. Junket weekend for all concerned.

    Just happened to be at the same hotel. Seeing Bruce Springsteen later today for an outdoor concert.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Pricing in Australia seems to be even more interesting, built the same car and ended up with 349,299 Euro angry


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Federal government gets a fair percentage of that. Luxury car tax of 33% and GST 10%.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    I stumbled on a thread where someone reported the first 4S going into limp mode and headed back to the service center, it broke down 3 times since he took delivery - (12/2016)  nice move from P to test a customers patience and temper  angry


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Test drove a Tesla S and the X model too. Lots of funny and useful tech gadgets. Buid quality better than expected with lots of leather and alcantar on both models. Suspension was firm but comfort enought for my taste on the S and a bit softer on the X which suits well the SUV ride. Power was surprising Smiley instant torque is AMAZING Smiley I think the X model will be a huge success. Overall impression was great, the big downside is design, the S looks plain and the X boring.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    The S design is actually why it's so successful. Everyone else has tried to make EVs look like alien ships. Tesla just made them normal and simple.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Turbo S e-hybrid will debut at Geneva.  Just saw the official Porsche press release, but cannot post from my iPhone now.  Can someone please post the press release and the pics on this thread?



    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Did my best from my phone.  Someone else can enlarge pics, etc.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    680 hp combined. Can go 50km on electric. Starts at 185K Euro.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    What a beast! kiss


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Still odd that 0-60 is 3.4s with that much power and AWD. Seems like it should be much quicker.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Here is where the magic happens, such a clever packaging, integrating the electric motor into the transmission itself, takes up zero extra room vs a non-hybrid version.

    Screen Shot 2017-02-24 at 6.10.01 AM.png


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Whoopsy:

    Here is where the magic happens, such a clever packaging, integrating the electric motor into the transmission itself, takes up zero extra room vs a non-hybrid version.

    Screen Shot 2017-02-24 at 6.10.01 AM.png

    This is engineering SmileySmileySmiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Autocar's passenger ride: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2017-porsche-panamera-turbo-s-e-hybrid-revealed


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    2016 Cayman GT4 - 1992 964 Carrera 2 - 2016 Macan S Diesel - 2013 Mini Cooper S


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    noone1:

    The S design is actually why it's so successful. Everyone else has tried to make EVs look like alien ships. Tesla just made them normal and simple.

    Yes , that´s the problem, who wants to spend + 150K for a such simple and plain design! Still the car impressed me a lot, who knows in the future I might get one.


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    J.Seven

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    0-125mph: 8.3s  Smiley 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    In official press release I didnt see any confirmation of 0-124 mph times. 

    I think 10-11 secs for 0-200 are closer to the truth


     
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