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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Has anyone heard anything credible regarding the upcoming M2 CS/CSL?

    Thinking about upgrading the 1M. Went to my local dealership to see if I can put a deposit down and they looked at me like I was crazy. Wouldn't take a deposit. Nothing. Very odd. The guy I was talking to did not even know 1M existed. 


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Porker:

    That doesn't make sense, one event is in Germany and the other in the UK...

    It's a long distance race. Smiley

    Does anybody know what happened to the driver?


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Ramin:

    Has anyone heard anything credible regarding the upcoming M2 CS/CSL?

    Thinking about upgrading the 1M. Went to my local dealership to see if I can put a deposit down and they looked at me like I was crazy. Wouldn't take a deposit. Nothing. Very odd. The guy I was talking to did not even know 1M existed. 

    M2 CS(L) is on it's way according to my local BMW dealer... (and a friend Smiley). Probably next year...


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Any information about the transmission? Manual or DKG only?


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Josef:

    Any information about the transmission? Manual or DKG only?

    Sorry, no clue. A friend works for BMW and I only (accidentally) stumbled over this topic during a discussion about M GmbH.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    A CS is coming with 410hp, M3/M4 engine. It will come with a new silver colour and no longer offer it in the grey. It may also come with new seats as the option code for the seats has appeared on VIN search. It will also have (optional?) bigger steel brakes. This car will start production in Jan with March release. At the moment both manual and auto is being tested, but there is no confirmation of whether there will be a manual for production. 

    CSL will come in 2019. Not much is known at this stage 


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Update on the “next” M2. I would seem that from July onwards there will be a S55 engine M2 called M2 Competition. After that a limited edition CS/CSL will be the final M2. Both cars will spot larger kidney grill. 

    Mean while I picked up a manual M2 LCI after having a pre LCI DCT. More fun in the manual. 


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    OK, BMW M2 Competition is (almost) official now:

    Around 410 hp...550 Nm of torque.

    Manual and DCT versions available. 

    Apparently these are leaked photos...

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    is there any difference with the current M2? angry


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    the-missile:

    is there any difference with the current M2? angry

    Apparently many differences "under the hood", incl. exhaust system and chassis.

    No word about prices but I already like the M2 a lot (my son is drooling every time he spots one on the road, don't know why, this car attracts young people somehow, maybe because it looks more compact than the M4).


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Is there any difference with any other design from BMW? They all look the same, like all Mercedes and all Audis. And they still have a gear lever in 2018? angry


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    SciFrog:

    Is there any difference with any other design from BMW? They all look the same, like all Mercedes and all Audis. And they still have a gear lever in 2018? angry

    Not true. I can spot a M2 (or E63/C63 for that matter) from a mile away, same goes to the RS6. They look different (fenders is first difference).


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    It seems the M2 Competition has the engine (detuned) of the M3.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Eh, for some reason I just do not consider any BMW to be a sports car. They just don't like the part.

    You could show me any M car (aside from the goofy big wing one ones) and tell me it's the standard pedestrian version and I'd totally believe you.


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    noone1:

    Eh, for some reason I just do not consider any BMW to be a sports car. They just don't like the part.

    You could show me any M car (aside from the goofy big wing one ones) and tell me it's the standard pedestrian version and I'd totally believe you.

    That's part of the appeal (more go than show).  Nice to have a low profile for some people.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Grant:
    noone1:

    Eh, for some reason I just do not consider any BMW to be a sports car. They just don't like the part.

    You could show me any M car (aside from the goofy big wing one ones) and tell me it's the standard pedestrian version and I'd totally believe you.

    That's part of the appeal (more go than show).  Nice to have a low profile for some people.

    Except they don’t really go. Other than sideways. With additional smoke. Which is all about show Smiley


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    bluelines:
    Grant:
    noone1:

    Eh, for some reason I just do not consider any BMW to be a sports car. They just don't like the part.

    You could show me any M car (aside from the goofy big wing one ones) and tell me it's the standard pedestrian version and I'd totally believe you.

    That's part of the appeal (more go than show).  Nice to have a low profile for some people.

    Except they don’t really go. Other than sideways. With additional smoke. Which is all about show Smiley

    Bingo. I can't think of the last time an M car was tested and the lap time and drivers wasn't disappointed. And worst of all, they want insane prices for the really sporty models. M4 GTS CSL Whatever is like $140K...

     


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    bluelines:
    Grant:
    noone1:

    Eh, for some reason I just do not consider any BMW to be a sports car. They just don't like the part.

    You could show me any M car (aside from the goofy big wing one ones) and tell me it's the standard pedestrian version and I'd totally believe you.

    That's part of the appeal (more go than show).  Nice to have a low profile for some people.

    Except they don’t really go. Other than sideways. With additional smoke. Which is all about show Smiley

    Smiley The M2 is actually the only BMW I like right now, it just looks nice and compact, it is difficult to explain. If this car had 200 kg less weight, it would be the perfect little racer but unfortunately... Smiley My son bugs me to get him a used one for his 18th birthday (four years from now) when he gets his driver's license but I am pretty sure I will not get him a car he can instantly kill himself in. Smiley Smiley 


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Skoda or a Lada first, Christian...blush..


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    throt:

    Skoda or a Lada first, Christian...blush..

    Nah, I don't want to be cruel.

    Daughter gets a Mini or a BMW 2 series Coupe, son probably the same. He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    RC:
    throt:

    Skoda or a Lada first, Christian...blush..

    Nah, I don't want to be cruel.

    Daughter gets a Mini or a BMW 2 series Coupe, son probably the same. He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    2 of them in to cars, Jeeps, it’s the end for yours then, buddy..Smiley...You’ll be keeping 3 rides, their insurance will certainly be cruel..

    My advice, do not give them too much too early...Smiley...


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    throt:
    RC:
    throt:

    Skoda or a Lada first, Christian...blush..

    Nah, I don't want to be cruel.

    Daughter gets a Mini or a BMW 2 series Coupe, son probably the same. He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    2 of them in to cars, Jeeps, it’s the end for yours then, buddy..Smiley...You’ll be keeping 3 rides, their insurance will certainly be cruel..

    My advice, do not give them too much too early...Smiley...

    In Germany, I can put the insurance on my name or I can take a lease with integrated insurance, no real issues here. 

    The question is: Do I buy each a halfway proper used car for 10k or so or do I lease new cars for 150-200 EUR per month?! I think I know the answer.


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    RC:
    throt:
    RC:
    throt:

    Skoda or a Lada first, Christian...blush..

    Nah, I don't want to be cruel.

    Daughter gets a Mini or a BMW 2 series Coupe, son probably the same. He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    2 of them in to cars, Jeeps, it’s the end for yours then, buddy..Smiley...You’ll be keeping 3 rides, their insurance will certainly be cruel..

    My advice, do not give them too much too early...Smiley...

    In Germany, I can put the insurance on my name or I can take a lease with integrated insurance, no real issues here. 

    The question is: Do I buy each a halfway proper used car for 10k or so or do I lease new cars for 150-200 EUR per month?! I think I know the answer.

    Your going with a lease!. What if they have a few prangs, on hand back it could be a pain in the butt...


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    throt:
    RC:
    throt:
    RC:
    throt:

    Skoda or a Lada first, Christian...blush..

    Nah, I don't want to be cruel.

    Daughter gets a Mini or a BMW 2 series Coupe, son probably the same. He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    2 of them in to cars, Jeeps, it’s the end for yours then, buddy..Smiley...You’ll be keeping 3 rides, their insurance will certainly be cruel..

    My advice, do not give them too much too early...Smiley...

    In Germany, I can put the insurance on my name or I can take a lease with integrated insurance, no real issues here. 

    The question is: Do I buy each a halfway proper used car for 10k or so or do I lease new cars for 150-200 EUR per month?! I think I know the answer.

    Your going with a lease!. What if they have a few prangs, on hand back it could be a pain in the butt...


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    No issues because the insurance pays the value loss to the car company I leased it from.

    My Mini JCW had two larger accidents (my mother... Smiley...she is over 80 and doesn't drive anymore, she was lucky) and when the car goes back, no issues. Just the normal wear stuff and usually this costs a couple of hundreds of EUR but in my case, I usually have less mileage than agreed upon, so I have a remaining "credit" for that, so no problem either. Accidents are no issue with leased cars here because, like I said, the insurance is paying the value loss directly to the lease company/dealer.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    RC:
    He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    Ford must be doing something well with their Mustang. My 15 year old son also wishes to have a Mustang at 18. 

    Not that I would buy him such a car ....


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Gnil:
    RC:
    He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    Ford must be doing something well with their Mustang. My 15 year old son also wishes to have a Mustang at 18. 

    Not that I would buy him such a car ....

    If you would, I'll buy him the mustache and earring!

     


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    smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Porker:
    Gnil:
    RC:
    He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    Ford must be doing something well with their Mustang. My 15 year old son also wishes to have a Mustang at 18. 

    Not that I would buy him such a car ....

    If you would, I'll buy him the mustache and earring!

     

    No gold chain? Smiley Smiley

    You'd be surprised: One of the star architects in my town (actually, he is well known in the entire region) has a new Ford Mustang (black with clear tail lights, not a fan of them). Seems to have been some sorts of childhood dream, he usually drives a Cayenne S. I also know a lawyer who drives a tuned(!) new Mustang (over 600 hp, supercharger kit) convertible over here. No mustaches, beards or earrings. No hipster look. They look pretty normal (even compared to me Smiley). 

    I think Ford has succeeded in establishing the new Mustang as some sorts of new Ford Capri. An affordable entry level sportscar with good performance. The quality has improved as well. I wouldn't mind getting one (V8) as a weekend fun toy but I cannot afford getting another car. The lease rate is currently under 500 EUR per month without down payment, not exactly super expensive. Still not getting one for my kids, too dangerous.


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    the facelift Mustang sounds amazing, and the updated and uprated NA V8 is a lovely thing; and affordable. I love it. If only they would get some demos on the road in the UK!


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Porker:
    Gnil:
    RC:
    He said he would be OK with a Ford Mustang (V8 of course) as well, what a modest boy I have. Smiley Smiley

    Ford must be doing something well with their Mustang. My 15 year old son also wishes to have a Mustang at 18. 

    Not that I would buy him such a car ....

    If you would, I'll buy him the mustache and earring!

     

    The moustache is growing. Looks like velvet :-)) 

    no earrings , but he wants tattoos .... and that is coming from a kid that has a style that is sporty and clean cut .

    Get prepared with your daughter :-)


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