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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    This may be an interesting car for collectors but I have no feelings towards this car, nothing, zero. I was almost going nuts when the 458 Speciale came out but the Pista? Nothing. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    That’s beRC:

    This may be an interesting car for collectors but I have no feelings towards this car, nothing, zero. I was almost going nuts when the 458 Speciale came out but the Pista? Nothing. Smiley

    That’s because when the 458 speciale came out there was nothing better in the category. With the 488 pista it’s another story as most will always prefer the old 458 speciale. I also have no interest in the 488. I just read a few reviews and I’m already bored with it. 


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    wait for March - it will get worse for the Pista....


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Why that? What exciting is coming out in Geneva in this segment?


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    488 replacement...


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    ... with the same power as Pista, new exterior, plus revised interior.


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    F142M FL is arriving in Geneva, 488 replacement, until they go V6 hybrid in 2-3 years


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    So is that another face lift of the face lifted 458  ? 


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Gnil:

    So is that another face lift of the face lifted 458  ? 

    Exactly. I've got a copyright on this phrase. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Rossi:
    Gnil:

    So is that another face lift of the face lifted 458  ? 

    Exactly. I've got a copyright on this phrase. Smiley

    Does Ferrari now  think they are Porsche ? Smiley Hope this is not under copyright yet !


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Gnil:
    Rossi:
    Gnil:

    So is that another face lift of the face lifted 458  ? 

    Exactly. I've got a copyright on this phrase. Smiley

    Does Ferrari now  think they are Porsche ? Smiley Hope this is not under copyright yet !

    This is a stop gap until they are ready with the hybrid.


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Heard it looks more 812-ish and the interior is a joke !!


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Ferrari is going in the wrong direction...starting with the suv..etc....also agree that the 458 speciale is so much more ...more..than the pista.... 

    I mean what does 5000 car a year influence on the exhaust pollution of the world???0,01%??????


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    koko:

    Heard it looks more 812-ish and the interior is a joke !!


    I would not be surprised. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    xander71:

    Ferrari is going in the wrong direction...starting with the suv..etc....also agree that the 458 speciale is so much more ...more..than the pista.... 

    I mean what does 5000 car a year influence on the exhaust pollution of the world???0,01%??????

     

    I guess it’s not enough. Other than SUV They will be facelefting and introducing new models almost every 3 month. 

    A coupe version of the Portofino

    812 spider and Pista

    the rumored 1000hp model

    Brand new 4 seater

    And some LImted Edtions In-between.


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    A coupe portofino....???? Who will buy it??? Dont understand the marketing here


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    xander71:

    A coupe portofino....???? Who will buy it??? Dont understand the marketing here

     

    Same concept as Boxster/Cayman I guess.

    They should make the Portofino the 4 seater model. It will sell A lot !!


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Soon Fiat-Chrysler will take the Jeep Grand Cherokee and face-lift it, drop in a Ferrari V8

    and call it the Ferrari Grande Indiano.....


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    964C2:

    Soon Fiat-Chrysler will take the Jeep Grand Cherokee and face-lift it, drop in a Ferrari V8

    and call it the Ferrari Grande Indiano.....

    Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    964C2:

    Soon Fiat-Chrysler will take the Jeep Grand Cherokee and face-lift it, drop in a Ferrari V8

    and call it the Ferrari Grande Indiano.....

    Actually, this isn't half as bad of an idea... 

    Lancia had the Thema 8.32...clever marketing trick.


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    3 track cars but the Pista is in a league above. Not a fair comparison.


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    rubbish comparism, why didn't they use the GT2 RS. Sam power as the Pista Smiley


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    agree the gt2 rs is the competitor here....any way impressive numbers


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    I think the tire choices would be more important here... 


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Tires seem to be comparable, twice the Cup 2 R (Ferrari and Porsche) and Trofeo R on the Mc. The 720S was slightly faster than the Pista from 0-100-0 in the test against the Senna.


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Josef:

    Tires seem to be comparable, twice the Cup 2 R (Ferrari and Porsche) and Trofeo R on the Mc. The 720S was slightly faster than the Pista from 0-100-0 in the test against the Senna.

    Didn't know the 600LT had the Trofeo R, I thought the regular Corsa. Then, not really great.

    Has Autocar used a new track now because their "old" track lap times aren't really comparable? Smiley 


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    I think they mentioned in the video the Trofeo R for the Mc, probably need to verify that again.

    I do not know honestly but there are different layouts of the track, longer and shorter ones.


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Josef:

    I think they mentioned in the video the Trofeo R for the Mc, probably need to verify that again.

    I do not know honestly but there are different layouts of the track, longer and shorter ones.

    Yes, they said it was on Trofeo R.

    Porsche Cup2 R weren't in the best condition when they decided to do the laptimes. Drifting session first....great idea Smiley


     
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