Crown

Board: Porsche - 911 - 992 Language: English Region: Worldwide Sticky: yes Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    911 Cabriolet


     


    -------

    992 vs 991.2


     


     


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Butt ugly. Even in the video the halted rotation as it got ugly. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    The hunchbacked turtle returns....

    991 looked much better from the rear. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    I like it.yes


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Me too! A lot!


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    It looks like it is carrying a rucksack surprise

    Can't get to like the back of the 992 , even in coupe mode . 991 was already not great , but 992 is even worst . It looks heavy , massive  and why have that horrible cut/scar through the whole back cheeky


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    That hump looks awful... disproportionately large and wide, extremely un-sporty enlightened


    --

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Beatuiful car. But hey - since 996.1 the exact same roof. It kind of gets boring


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Please continue the 992 Cabriolet discussion here (thanks!):

    http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/514691654/OFFICIAL_992_Carrera_Cabriolet/page1.html?


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    The butt shot stopped looking good with the 991.1:


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Fully agree ....


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Looks antiquated now...


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Ducktail?

    Ducktail.JPG


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    That is going to be the Nº1 most popular option for the 992 IMO...


    --

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    ISUK:

    Ducktail?

    Ducktail.JPG

    Yes, please! Bring on the Ducktail! Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    ISUK:

    Ducktail?


    Ducktail on an Uglytail. Smiley


    --

    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Rossi:
    ISUK:

    Ducktail?


    Ducktail on an Uglytail. Smiley

    Will look great in black! Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    By the was the cover falls laterally above from the sides of the spoiler, and the integrated third brake light (ducktail wouldnt need one as it does not obstruct the standard one unlike the wing), I suspect that this is a wing (aerokit) rather than a ducktail spoiler...


    --

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    +1 

    looks like the base for a wing...


    --

    997.2 4S / BMW X5 40e / Donkervoort GT 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Configured a Gentian 2S at the dealer and came out at 138k, got 7k discount. Nothing signed yet...


    --

    997.2 4S / BMW X5 40e / Donkervoort GT 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Carlos from Spain:

    By the was the cover falls laterally above from the sides of the spoiler, and the integrated third brake light (ducktail wouldnt need one as it does not obstruct the standard one unlike the wing), I suspect that this is a wing (aerokit) rather than a ducktail spoiler...

    Indeed, it could be an Aerokit wing...


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    ISUK:

    Ducktail?

    Ducktail.JPG

    SmileySmiley


    --


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Sounds beautiful, Spud Gun.  What options are you choosing?


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    looks like usual dodgy wing on sport packet


    --

    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    How come no one has yet commented on the sportdesign package. The rear bumper looks hideous:

    Screenshot 2019-01-12 at 22.03.19.png


    --

    2018 White 911 GT3


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Dealer launch event in California...

    1547327910967image.jpeg

    1547327921087image.jpeg

    1547327931295image.jpeg

    Smiley 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Gauss:

    How come no one has yet commented on the sportdesign package. The rear bumper looks hideous:

    Screenshot 2019-01-12 at 22.03.19.png

    We did, a few pages back, and had the same opinion Smiley


    --

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    "Stronger. Racier. Sharper."

    All words to describe the new generation of the classic sports car from Zuffenhausen. What are the special features of the new 911? Porsche designers Peter Varga (exterior) and Ivo van Hulten (interior) explain.

    (8 January 2019)

    911 (992), 2018, Porsche AG

    For decades, the design of the 911 has enjoyed an iconic status around the world. How have you further developed what’s now the eighth generation?

    Peter Varga: The 911 embodies a unique language of form. The silhouette alone speaks for itself: everyone immediately recognizes its clearly drawn contours. So our first task was to identify those properties that we wanted to either alter or accentuate even more strongly. In my view, the 911 has acquired ever better proportions over the years. We’ve continued this development by broadening the new generation at both the front and the rear. In the process, we aim to make the 911 even stronger, racier, and sharper. The broader front part is very good for the car in general. The main part of the body with the passenger compartment has been kept comparatively slender. The flatter doors with well-placed emphases bring out the more powerful fender ensemble. At the same time, the rear wheels are now an inch larger, which means the car stands much better on the road. This also accentuates where the drive system is located and therefore where all the power comes from. Because of the aerodynamics, the rear is of course the most fascinating part for us designers. The 911 needs a lot of downforce on the rear axle, and we also wanted to further improve the drag coefficient. These requirements—combined with the sloping roofline—were a major challenge that required intensive attention.

    Ivo van Hulten: In designing the new 911 it was also very important for us to consider the evolutionary changes throughout all the previous generations. In the original 911, for example, the interior had a marked horizontal character with everything on a single line. As of the late 1980s, a greater focus was placed on technology. With the new 911, we’re emphasizing new materials and the return to a horizontal layout. An emotional, tactile experience was paramount to the design of the central console’s elements. We also wanted to make the control concept as simple and clear as possible. A new generation of steering wheels corresponds directly to the instrument cluster, so the controls are now much more streamlined and accelerated. We’ve integrated a larger touchscreen of 10.9 inches into the center display. Its functions are arranged more simply than on the previous model, which means it can be used faster and with less potential for distraction.

    911 (992), 2018, Porsche AG


    Is it hard to reinterpret an iconic car like the 911?

    Varga: You need to have respect for the icon, but fear would have an inhibiting effect on our work. After all, our job as designers is to be creative and think along innovative lines. But obviously, we shouldn’t neglect the car’s history. It’s precisely this combination that makes the Porsche brand and the 911 in particular so special—one example being the rather classic and cohesive basic form of the car in conjunction with the adaptive aerodynamics.

    Van Hulten: In designing the new 911 we focused on the nature of the car and what constitutes its essence. Basically, what we asked ourselves is how we could bring out the iconic qualities of the car even more strongly in this latest generation.

    The new Porsche 911: Exterior & Interior Design.


    How long does it take to develop a Porsche from the initial idea to the prototype stage?

    Van Hulten: We generally assume a period of around four years from the initial idea to the start of production. We designers are involved in the overall development process very early on. A key part of our work has to do with the haptics. We have to be able to see and touch new materials in order to make final adjustments to the design. But we also utilize digital tools that make our work much faster and more efficient than before. For example, we use VR headsets to examine important data at a very early stage in a 3-D, virtual format. These 3-D data, which are continuously refined, form the basis for tools that will later be used to make the car in Zuffenhausen.

    911 (992), 2018, Porsche AG


    Has the increasing level of digitalization had a significant effect on your work?

    Varga: Digital tools help speed up all steps of the design process and make them more flexible. They enable us to put specific surfaces into practice on the car in precisely the way they were digitally planned. That being said, the 911 has such a special design idiom that its freely formed surfaces were only given their final definition on a physical one-to-one model.

    Is there one detail of the new 911 that you’re especially proud of?

    Van Hulten: For me, a special feature of the new 911 is the instrument cluster. It shows a nice balance between analog and digital. The analog rev counter in the middle complements the digital cluster with its five circular gauges that no longer overlap.

    Varga: I’m very pleased that a single, continuous strip of lighting is now integrated into the rear of the 911. This purist approach adds the final touch to the clean, clearly structured design of the new 911. We’ve moved all of the additional elements like the license plate, crest, tailpipe trim, and auxiliary lights down, which places the 911 visually closer to the road.

    Peter Varga

    Born in Hungary in 1978, Peter Varga studied transportation design at Pforzheim University, joined Porsche in 2014 as an exterior designer, and has headed the department since 2016. His approach is marked by a wish to avoid overdrawing the models and retain the uncomplicated quality of the first 911, leaving out all that’s superfluous. He emphasizes function instead of exorbitance, straightforwardness instead of surfeit. As such, he’s no fan of radical departures in design that would change the 911’s brand identity. He places a premium on maintaining the balance among the three key elements of the 911: performance, form, and everyday usability.

    Ivo van Hulten

    Ivo van Hulten was born in the Dutch town of Waalwijk in 1977. His studies at the Design Academy Eindhoven paved the way for positions at Audi and then Opel, where he was chief designer. In 2014 he followed the call from Zuffenhausen and has since been the head of interior design for Porsche. He pursues a leitmotif of clear design and uncluttered operability, and considers digitalization and simplicity two sides of the same coin. His plans for the future include securing a balance between the analog and digital worlds. 

    Text first published in the Porsche customer magazine Christophorus, No. 389 

    Link:  https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/products/porsche-911-new-eighth-generation-992-timeless-machine-design-interview-peter-varga-ivo...


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    the back is sooo busy.  I hope the PORSCHE can be removed.  I know the rest of the script can be.    


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    bvineyards:

    the back is sooo busy.  I hope the PORSCHE can be removed.  I know the rest of the script can be.    

     

    No more busier than the 991.........


    --

     

     


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA 2/14/19 1:26 AM
    watt
    331100 2045
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 2/21/19 10:38 AM
    RCA
     
     
     
     
     
    218606 1125
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 2/15/19 11:05 AM
    RCA
    146192 2579
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 2/21/19 10:06 AM
    SportCarGroup
    62367 817
    Porsche Sticky Paint protection film 2/18/19 9:28 AM
    RCA
    16322 149
    Porsche Sticky Child seats in a 991 11/29/18 3:43 PM
    RCA
    14690 35
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 992 Carrera Cabriolet 2/18/19 11:28 AM
    RCA
    10252 127
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 2/18/19 8:51 PM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    3291 60
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S 1/4/19 7:02 PM
    Topspeed
    486940 4255
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017) 2/19/19 11:40 PM
    4trac
    422624 5222
    Porsche 992 (Next 911 generation 2019/2020) Thread Closed 11/29/18 11:38 AM
    RCA
    318122 3195
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 12/31/18 2:19 AM
    DJM48
    286724 2598
    Porsche Cayman GT4 2/19/19 8:00 PM
    dreamcar
    280892 2760
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 1/30/19 3:10 AM
    ha
    219658 2777
    Ferrari 488 GTB/GTS 1/17/19 8:13 PM
    GoHardGT3RS
    195642 1789
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 2/18/19 10:28 AM
    RCA
    191695 3355
    Others Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016 model) - Review (updated Feb 13th 2017) 12/17/18 12:42 PM
    RCA
    157863 2491
    Porsche Boxster Spyder (981) 8/31/18 10:25 AM
    WAY
    144629 757
    Ferrari Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor 5/22/18 9:16 PM
    RCA
    113032 789
    Others VW caught cheating emissions tests 5/3/18 7:52 PM
    CGX car nut
    107941 871
    Porsche Porsche Mission E - the future of Porsche? 2/18/19 1:00 PM
    RCA
    99177 1370
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 12/7/18 10:15 PM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    68857 673
    Others Tesla Roadster 2/21/19 10:40 AM
    RCA
    57556 1730
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models 11/3/18 11:09 AM
    bluelines
    48442 477
    Others Tesla Model X Thread Closed 2/23/18 3:41 PM
    RCA
    43587 1122
    AMG AMG GT R 11/30/18 4:10 PM
    RCA
    43149 605
    Lambo Aventador and SV 11/19/18 8:31 AM
    RCA
    40873 472
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017) 12/4/18 3:17 PM
    BiTurbo
    40637 650
    AMG Mercedes E63 S AMG (2018) - Short Review (updated on a regular basis) 2/14/19 1:44 PM
    RCA
    40305 387
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New Porsche Carrera T 12/13/18 2:27 PM
    RCA
    39235 804
    270 items found, displaying 1 to 30.