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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    CGX car nut:
    Your updates on the R8 have convinced me to move away from my long awaited Acura NSX to a new R8.  Even with a special order, I will have my Audi, well before I hear a whimper from Honda.  Looking forward to the return to Audi.

     

    Wow. Have you driven the R8? I highly recommend a test drive before any decision. 

    For me, it was love on first sight (drive) but some people may need more than that.

    The NSX is a nice product, no doubt about it but it cannot be in the same emotional playground as the R8, not even close. 

    Can't wait to see if you like the car as much as I do (though I have to admit that I would love to see the R8 from...Porsche Smiley).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC:

    (though I have to admit that I would love to see the R8 from...Porsche Smiley).

    Yes, I think the same, but not the identical car, it's outside design have to be Porsche like. Compared to the 911 or even the 981 Cayman GTS, I have to say I don't really like the look of the R8. It looks massiv and heavy and not so clean like the normal 911. There is no I must have this car, when I look it. The 911 Turbo look I don't like for similar reasons.

    But I asume from Porsche the R8 would cost 50-80k more than from Audi.
    Some dealers give 15,2% discount on a brand new individual configured R8, if you have a car registered on your name, which is not from VW, Audi, Skoda, Porsche. 12,9% without. Try that with a 991 Turbo S......


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    The 960 is coming, the only problem will be that it won't have that fantastic V10 n/a engine and probably no n/a engine at all (currently, there is word of a Biturbo V8 first, maybe with some hybrid tech, similar to future 911 Turbo). A V6 may be available as well, as an entry level model (similar to the soon to be expected V6 Biturbo in the R8).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC:

    The 960 is coming, the only problem will be that it won't have that fantastic V10 n/a engine and probably no n/a engine at all (currently, there is word of a Biturbo V8 first, maybe with some hybrid tech, similar to future 911 Turbo). A V6 may be available as well, as an entry level model (similar to the soon to be expected V6 Biturbo in the R8).

    And it will have Porsche Price Level...


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Joost:
    RC:

    The 960 is coming, the only problem will be that it won't have that fantastic V10 n/a engine and probably no n/a engine at all (currently, there is word of a Biturbo V8 first, maybe with some hybrid tech, similar to future 911 Turbo). A V6 may be available as well, as an entry level model (similar to the soon to be expected V6 Biturbo in the R8).

    And it will have Porsche Price Level...

    Of course... Smiley Just today, I complained to a friend that my R8 isn't coming from Porsche. He said "you should be happy, otherwise you probably wouldn't have been able to afford it...". I was quite baffled with what he said and realized fast that he was...right. I cannot afford paying 250k or close to 300k for a weekend fun car.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC, just read your review and saw you got the R8.
    Congratulations! An absolute beast of a car with one of the most exhilarating engines and engine sounds out there kiss


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    If you liked this review, I highly recommend you read the other 43 reviews RC has written about it. You can find them scattered throughout every other car thread within the last 6 month.


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    noone1:

    If you liked this review, I highly recommend you read the other 43 reviews RC has written about it. You can find them scattered throughout every other car thread within the last 6 month.

    SmileyThx


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    noone1:

    If you liked this review, I highly recommend you read the other 43 reviews RC has written about it. You can find them scattered throughout every other car thread within the last 6 month.

    SmileySmiley


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    bluelines:
    noone1:

    If you liked this review, I highly recommend you read the other 43 reviews RC has written about it. You can find them scattered throughout every other car thread within the last 6 month.

    SmileySmiley

    Hehehe, I´m beginning to understand the minefield I just stepped into SmileySmiley


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    bluelines:
    noone1:

    If you liked this review, I highly recommend you read the other 43 reviews RC has written about it. You can find them scattered throughout every other car thread within the last 6 month.

    SmileySmiley

    OMG Smiley SmileySmiley


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Dr. Phil:
    bluelines:
    noone1:

    If you liked this review, I highly recommend you read the other 43 reviews RC has written about it. You can find them scattered throughout every other car thread within the last 6 month.

    SmileySmiley

    Hehehe, I´m beginning to understand the minefield I just stepped into SmileySmiley

    My enthusiasm for the R8 doesn't seem to make everyone happy. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Atzporsche:
    bluelines:
    noone1:

    If you liked this review, I highly recommend you read the other 43 reviews RC has written about it. You can find them scattered throughout every other car thread within the last 6 month.

    SmileySmiley

    OMG Smiley SmileySmiley

     

    And if you go through all these 43 reviews, you will find out that everyone likes Volvos a LOT.  Smiley


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Yeah, that Volvo thing is a mystery...like Abba. indecision angry


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Interesting comparison: R8 vs R8 Plus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u80vnfY3Xs


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Mikla:

    Interesting comparison: R8 vs R8 Plus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u80vnfY3Xs

    I saw it a couple of days ago, indeed a very interesting comparison. 

    Don't judge the cars by the video though, the V10 (non Plus) doesn't close in to the V10 Plus at higher speeds, this is just the result of (bad) cutting of the video (they actually say this in the comment part).

    Why the V10 Plus is that fast vs. the V10? Well, the power difference alone wouldn't suffice but the V10 Plus has a shorter gearing ratio.

    Also interesting to note (not that I haven't mentioned it before Smiley): The engines are completely identical, only software is different.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Doesn't the plus come with all the option, whereas the standard is barebones?


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    noone1:

    Doesn't the plus come with all the option, whereas the standard is barebones?

    Yes, I would always choose the Plus because it comes pretty much fully loaded (incl. ceramic brakes) but the Spyder is not available as a Plus yet. Smiley Even worse: The non-Plus version has a softer and more comfortable chassis setup.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC:

    Also interesting to note (not that I haven't mentioned it before Smiley): The engines are completely identical, only software is different.


    Yeah, I guess that's listed under fun facts. Smiley


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Rossi:
    RC:

    Also interesting to note (not that I haven't mentioned it before Smiley): The engines are completely identical, only software is different.


    Yeah, I guess that's listed under fun facts. Smiley

    RC, you could make an R8 Plus Advent calendar with 24 fun facts to admire every day up until Xmas Smiley Smiley

    (Yes, I know you have far more than 24 fun facts, but you will simply have to select the 24 best)


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    How about Sheldon's R8 fun facts?  (you need to be a Big Bang Theory fan to understand this).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    R8 V10 Spyder (540hp) tested by HVS from AZ

    Acceleration:

    0-100: 3,1

    0-150: 5,9

    0-200: 10,2

    Braking:

    100-0 Cold: 35,5 m

    100-0 Warm: 33,0 m

    Weight / as Tested: 1,720 kg / 1,777 kg

    Tires: Pirelli P Zero

    Base Price / w.options: 179,000 Euro / 224,200 Euro


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    from 8:30 :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn3y2fke4sE

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    martini964:

    from 8:30 :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn3y2fke4sE

     

    Smiley Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Drove to Austria this weekend since I have 19" winter wheels on my car now and I wanted to see if I can catch a bit of snow (no chance, only up on top of the mountains or on ski slopes).

    Learned a couple of interesting things about the various setups possible with Drive Select and the OEM Continental WinterContact TS830 R01 winter tires (which btw. are excellent for the car).

    Weather on my way to Austria was not that good, roads were pretty "greasy" (that kind of moist which is mixed with dust, dirt and whatnot, making the roads a bit slippery) most of the time, at temperatures around 2-4°C. On my way back home, I also got into some mixed rain and snow thing, wasn't really pleasant since it was dark and there was a lot of traffic.

    What can I say?

    First, never use Performance modes in winter time, not even the wet or snow setups. Unless of course your name is Walter Röhrl.  These modes may be fun on a closed track or air strip but no on public roads. Just trust me.

    Then, using Dynamic mode (this is actually how I drive 99% of the time) in this kind of weather may be fun but not really safe. At first, I thought that the Continental winter tires are crap because they felt very smeary and not planted at all. Way too much slip, I wasn't really happy with them. Until I realized that...wait a moment...I was driving in Dynamic mode. How I realized that? Well, I was doing a narrow curve (actual an exit from a major road to another one) at around 50 kph and my rear started slipping. It was kind of funny because it wasn't one of those sudden heavy oversteers but a really nice, smooth oversteer with the rear coming slowly, steadily and in a highly controllable manner. Actually, after that, I wanted to do the same narrow curve again but a bit faster.  Seriously, it was fun but of course this is not something you want to happen to you on a public road, especially when you have other cars following you.

    I changed to the Individual setup and set everything (engine, gearbox, steering, chassis, etc.) to Dynamic mode, with one exception only: Quattro (AWD/ESP setup). I set Quattro to...Comfort mode.

    After doing that, car felt like a different car. No kidding. Tires suddenly felt better planted on these "greasy" or wet roads, traction felt better, there was no more oversteer and only a very mild understeer. It is amazing how electronics setups can change the whole character of a car. Fantastic!

    I really enjoyed driving the R8 in this kind of weather because everything was still set to "sporty", with the exception of the AWD and ESP. Speaking of ESP: In Dynamic mode, I saw the ESP lamp come on pretty often. In Quattro "Comfort" mode not even once.

    The Continental winter tires don't take away too much from the original character of the car with summer tires. There is a slight loss in steering precision though, the steering in isn't that razor sharp anymore as before but for driving in winter time, i think this is actually a very good and welcomed setup. Understeer is a bit stronger but this also adds a bit to the safety feel because you can basically feel it in the steering when you're too fast under these driving conditions since the mild understeer is a pretty good warning sign not to go faster.

    Overall, a pretty interesting winter driving experience and I can truly say that this car is perfect for winter driving. 

    Only problem in winter time could be ground clearance (when there is lots of snow) but other than that, no problems. 

    Rims look quite OK (design) and it doesn't even bother me that they aren't black. indecision 

    IMG_1061.jpg


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Woah, I am overdosed on "fun facts" indecisionwink


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    bluelines:

    Woah, I am overdosed on "fun facts" indecisionwink

    Smiley This was actually for the three R8 owners here...a winter service for them. Smiley 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    I love controllable oversteer 


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Very interesting. Thanks a lot for the helpful infos. Smiley
    Till now I thought that driving mode in performance with snow set up could be a lot of fun. Good to know that this isn't applicable in a safe way.


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    Kind regards, Conny 



    Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016) BMW 740xDrive (2016)

     

     


     


     
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