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    Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    Just talked to a "friend" today and he swears he has seen a small (new gen, lighter) V8 in a Macan.

    I do not know if this is just a "let's see how this works in the Macan" or the real thing but a small V8 in the Macan would be quite interesting and set the Macan apart from the competition in this class.

    Maybe a reason why Porsche hasn't labeled the new Macan Turbo Performance Package a Turbo S? Just a wild guess.

    Would you get a Macan with a V8? Just curious.


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    No. I would however get a GT4 with a NA flat-8, super short throw manual and total absence of RS gimmicks like rear wheel steering, gills in the front arcs and a Boeing 747 wing on the butt.

    Your "friend" did not happen to spot one of those?


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    Interesting for sure.. but does it really make sense with a v8 in the Macan? A more efficient and powerful v6 turbo would for sure be enough, but interesting to see how this rumour develops!

    Not much seen about the Macan Facelift either. No mules spotted what I know of / have seen. Latest I heard is that the new Macan facelift will be introduced in Geneva 2018 and sold as MY19 with market introduction early summer 2018.

    I've ordered a Macan with Performance Package btw and this will be a good mate for a good 1,5 years before I can get my hands on the facelifted version indecision

    Funny thing is that I'm a die hard 911 fan. Have owned 991, 997 and so on in different versions and with different configurations. But the Macan give me almost as many thrills how weird it even might sound. It's actually my favorite in the line-up for my needs. Of course not taking any of the GT-versions into account. 


    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    How small? Currently 4.0L is the 'small' V8, how small can Porsche go? 3.0L? 3.5L?

    What about power output? The Power Kit Macan Turbo is already at what 430HP? The V8 will need to be pushing 500HP to make sense.

     


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    Putting a V8 into the Macan at a time when car manufacturers are having to downsize their engines to meet future emissions targets seems an unlikely prospect.  Smiley


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    fritz:

    Putting a V8 into the Macan at a time when car manufacturers are having to downsize their engines to meet future emissions targets seems an unlikely prospect.  Smiley

    Quite.. It would be extremely inconsistent to upsize the Macan to a V8 whilst Reducing  the 718 to a flat 4.. 


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    If they put a V8 in the Macan what is going to be left for the Cayenne turbo?

    A higher hp V6 (like the 440hp of the performance pack) and the GTS chassis is frankly more than enough to obliterate the competition even further.


    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    SciFrog:

    If they put a V8 in the Macan what is going to be left for the Cayenne turbo?

    A higher hp V6 (like the 440hp of the performance pack) and the GTS chassis is frankly more than enough to obliterate the competition even further.

    I was wondering the same...how would the Cayenne fit in? However, a V8 Macan would be unique in this class. There is no V8 mid sized sporty SUV on the market as far as I remember.

    Like I said, this may have been just a proof of concept (I have a bit more details but cannot share with you for obvious reasons) but the engine seems to have fit nicely, no camouflage, nothing. 


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    DaveGordon:
    fritz:

    Putting a V8 into the Macan at a time when car manufacturers are having to downsize their engines to meet future emissions targets seems an unlikely prospect.  Smiley

    Quite.. It would be extremely inconsistent to upsize the Macan to a V8 whilst Reducing  the 718 to a flat 4.. 

    True but keep in mind that the Macan still has V6 engines (with one exception), while the 718 has only flat four engines.

    I also don't think that a Macan V8 would be cheap, I kind of have the feeling that this is going to be a top model in the Macan model family, making it probably not only expensive but rare as well. Otherwise the V8 wouldn't make any sense in the Macan.


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    bluelines:

    No. I would however get a GT4 with a NA flat-8, super short throw manual and total absence of RS gimmicks like rear wheel steering, gills in the front arcs and a Boeing 747 wing on the butt.

    Your "friend" did not happen to spot one of those?

    No but he spotted a white Volvo... Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    Hmm... According to my source no V8 in Macan. And Turbo S with 450ps is coming in second half of 2017.


    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    KresoF1:

    Hmm... According to my source no V8 in Macan. And Turbo S with 450ps is coming in second half of 2017.

    So probably just a test mule? Still, interesting concept. With a V8, I would like the Macan much more than now. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    I doubt a v8 the be introduced to the macan.

    not only because of downsizing trend but it would also be quite a lump in the front for a mid sized suv. even if the engine is light. more fluids etc. would make it heavier.


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    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    Small V8 in Macan would be fantastic. Only issue with Macan is lack of engine note and I miss the old V8 sound of my previous RS4. I also wonder if Metcedes will proceed with putting their V8 into the GLC to make an AMG model similar to the C63? Perhaps the Macan V8 is a potential response to this. That said, wishing aside it would seem unlikely in today's world that they do this. Pity. 


    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    KresoF1:

    Hmm... According to my source no V8 in Macan. And Turbo S with 450ps is coming in second half of 2017.

    This is VERY interesting info KresoF1. I'm currently owning a Macan Turbo and have ordered the Macan Turbo with Performance Pack. But this is on the baseline that there would be no Turbo S in the 95B version of Macan. If there is a confirmed Turbo S coming I might cancel my Macan Turbo PP order... How certain is this and what timeline are we speaking of? Press-release second half of 2017 or start of production? And what is second half? August 2017?

    Thanks for any information you can share since this is quite important for my decision how to proceed.


    Re: Small V8 coming to Macan facelift?

    bluelines:

    No. I would however get a GT4 with a NA flat-8, super short throw manual and total absence of RS gimmicks like rear wheel steering, gills in the front arcs and a Boeing 747 wing on the butt.

    Your "friend" did not happen to spot one of those?

    Cool idea, but if not the 960, then the GT3 is the most likely recipient of an NA F-8.  I've thought for years this is the only reasonable path forward beyond 500hp and NA.


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