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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    W8MM:
    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    New info on the Taycan...confirmed by Porsche.

    https://www.carscoops.com/2018/07/porsche-taycan-employs-two-high-tech-electric-motors-puts-600-hp/

    "each has a current of roughly 4 volts"

    SmileySmiley

     

    Pleas forgive them, they are not electrical engineers. Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Whoopsy:

     

    Pleas forgive them, they are not electrical engineers. Smiley

    I am Smiley, Can I apply for a job with them Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    W8MM:
    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    New info on the Taycan...confirmed by Porsche.

    https://www.carscoops.com/2018/07/porsche-taycan-employs-two-high-tech-electric-motors-puts-600-hp/

    "each has a current of roughly 4 volts"

    SmileySmiley

    ... and can be recharged by a hamster on a wheel Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    the-missile:
    Whoopsy:

     

    Pleas forgive them, they are not electrical engineers. Smiley

    I am Smiley, Can I apply for a job with them Smiley

    Only in the marketing department.  


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    The e-Performance dinner held in Sydney a few months ago.

    https://youtu.be/OZ6A-ZDMI84


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Hi!

    Marketing of Taycan started .... paid 2.5k 10 days ago ... and received confirmation papers now.

    Btw : Why there is still no Taycan section here at Porsche forum? ... any admin - please?

     

    Best 

    Sidney

     

     

    Taycan.jpg


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Sidney:

    Hi!

    Marketing of Taycan started .... paid 2.5k 10 days ago ... and received confirmation papers now.

    Btw : Why there is still no Taycan section here at Porsche forum? ... any admin - please?

     

    Best 

    Sidney

    Working on it... Smiley

    We're non-profit, so it may take a short while, sorry about that. 


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    RC:
    Sidney:

    Hi!

    Marketing of Taycan started .... paid 2.5k 10 days ago ... and received confirmation papers now.

    Btw : Why there is still no Taycan section here at Porsche forum? ... any admin - please?

     

    Best 

    Sidney

    Working on it... Smiley

    We're non-profit, so it may take a short while, sorry about that. 

     

    Based on that card / sketch - no more suicide doors (first soft confirmation from Porsche)


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    RC:

    Working on it... Smiley

    We're non-profit, so it may take a short while, sorry about that. 

     

    Thank you ... great  .... (didn't want to urge you Smiley) ... I'm just pretty excited about getting a Taycan Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Sidney:

    Hi!

    Marketing of Taycan started .... paid 2.5k 10 days ago ... and received confirmation papers now.

    Btw : Why there is still no Taycan section here at Porsche forum? ... any admin - please?

     

    Best 

    Sidney

     

     

    Taycan.jpg


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    Congrats ! 

    That sketch looks great, hopefully the car ends up being everything we hope. 


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Here´s a new video.

    https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/15/porsche-taycan-ev-prototype-frunk-video/


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    agree that the sketch looks great.  The rear and hip area looks better than the 992 to me.


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

     

    ... for all the i8 drivers among us ... (seems 1 year old already)

     

    100-Jahre-BMW-Porsche-Anzeige.jpg


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    taycan-i8.png

    I hope that the Taycan isn't that  wide as shown in comparrison to the i8 (i8=1948mm)

    The height can't be correct


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Fiirst Taycan interior Spy Shots.

    porsche-taycan-interior-spied-shows-massive-digital-dashboard_3.jpg
    porsche-taycan-interior-spied-shows-massive-digital-dashboard_4.jpg

     

     


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Well I spoke to Mark Weber at the SPA F1 today. He really loved the test drive with the Mission E, same like written in internet. But he also told that the interior was still in a fairly rough state not finished at all. He descripted a bit like the pictures you post here.

    PS Mark Weber is a really nice guy. He prefers a GT3 RS to a GT2 RS. The sound of the GT3 RS is better and a GT2 he found extremely fast, even a bit too fast for the tires. interesting!


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Cool report, thanks!


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Interesting comment on GT2 and tires - with these über-powered sportscars street legal tires may become a bottleneck more and more...

    @ Paulo: thanks for posting, but the pics do not show the interior of the Taycan - the display reads Mission E smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    smiley

    The interior appears to be more cross turismo than sedan...and that´s OK....i actually prefer the cross turismo interior better.


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Here´s a "cut" photo!

    1535149906155Clip_10.jpg


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    That is exactly what he said it is impossible for tire manufacures to make tires for day to day driving and go 350 km/hour.


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    "Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo: driving Porsche's first EV" (by Georg Kacher, Car Magazine)

    (6 September 2018)

    ► Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
    ► We drive the electric prototype
    ► First taste of the 2019 Taycan EV

    Flooring the throttle flattens every climb. Give it stick and it feels like a winch-powered glider just before it lets go of the tow hook or a monorail thundering through the esses. Physical, immediate, awe-inspiring. Suddenly, high-end battery electric vehicles seem to be all positives, with no drawbacks. 

    And then you try to charge it, relying on infrastructure that is far from adequate, and you start to think again. But maybe that won’t be a problem by the time the Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo goes into production, likely to be three years from now.

    By then they may also have decided what it’s actually called. What you see here is a rolling prototype based on the Cross Turismo concept from this year’s Geneva show. That was, in turn, a variation on the Mission E concept first shown in 2015. Porsche recently announced that the production version of the Mission E will be called Taycan when it arrives next year. Whether that means the Cross Turismo will also be a Taycan is unclear, not least because Porsche has not confirmed that this SUV-style electric super-hatch is definitely going to happen.

    Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo electric car review

    But of course it is, and probably in something very close to this form. It shares its underpinnings with the Taycan, but it has slightly more ground clearance, more prominent wheelarches and a revised body that merges some unique touches with elements of Macan and Panamera Sports Turismo.

    There’s an underfloor battery pack, one electric motor in the front and one in the back (with the potential for another), driving all four wheels via a two-speed transmission. The steering is electrically assisted, and there will be rear-wheel steering and air suspension, but neither is fitted to this car, which is a little shy of the likely system output of ar0und 640bhp. An electronically controlled rear differential lock is likely to be an option.

    It has conventional brakes – with carbon-ceramic composites an option – combined with a regenerative braking function. But definitely not a Nissan Leaf-style one-pedal braking system, where lifting off the gas can bring you to a halt. Why not? ‘Because one-pedal is not our philosophy,’ says Stefan Weckbach, Porsche’s global head of electrification. ‘This is a proper sports car, and as such its mission is untamed acceleration and instant torque, not lift-off braking.’ 

    Like the lower, sleeker Taycan, the Cross Turismo is a striking-looking car – although the Geneva unveiling was met with a mixed response from North America, where they’d prefer a butch full-SUV look. The 911-echoing shape of the body may be great for signalling that this is indeed a Porsche sports car, but it means there’s not a huge amount of room inside, where it’s more junior Panamera than Macan. There’s enough front legroom, but shoulder room is trimmed by the tapered greenhouse, and adults won’t enjoy the headroom in the two rear seats. 

    Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo interior

    The dash aims for simplicity, but the centre stack is a distracting touch-zoom-push-slide affair, the display above it is filled with a bunch of swipeaway tiles, and the very same layout is duplicated on the passenger side. The steering wheel is festooned with buttons and thumbwheels, as well as a contrasting straightahead marker.

    You’ll search in vain for the ignition key or a starter button. Instead, there is a small on-off touch area to the left of the steering column. The gear selector, labelled simply PRND, sits at 2 o’clock behind the wheel, and you have driving modes to play with: Normal, Range, Sport, Sport Plus and Individual. (There may also be Eco, Wet and Off Road modes in the finished car.) Normal is all about lift-off coasting, Sport and Sport Plus are quite close together, Range does its best to ease anxiety, and Individual lets you tweak suspension, steering, stability control, drivetrain and soundtrack. 

    The neatest part of the new instrument panel is the lozenge-shaped main read-out, inspired by the dials in the first 911. Together with the optional head-up display, it tells you everything you need to know, although the digital speedo should be about three times bigger. Instead of a tacho, the centre of attention is a combined state-of-charge and range read-out. 

    Electric Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo rear

    Despite a substantial kerbweight of 2150kg, the Cross Turismo can accelerate to 62mph in less than 3.5 seconds and go on to 165mph, we’re told, although we experienced neither of those. We did, however, get to experience its phenomenal traction, helped by its low centre of gravity and near-perfect weight distribution. Even at speed, this car is as firmly planted as a limpet in concrete.

    For Weckbach’s team, high performance that could only be delivered in short bursts wouldn’t have been good enough. They’ve created a car that can do long flat-out autobahn stretches without overheating, and deliver hard acceleration as strongly when the battery is freshly charged as when it’s nearing empty.

    Porsche is anticipating a range of around 250 miles on a full charge. All the Mission E models will be compatible with an 800-volt fast charging network that’s currently under construction, but can also work with public chargers, domestic wallbox, wireless induction or – if you’ve got 30 hours to kill – a domestic plug.

    Seats of the Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo EV

    Expect pricing to roughly shadow that of the Panamera Sport Turismo, so starting at just over £70,000 and topping out around £120,000. The 2019 Taycan is expected to come with a choice of power outputs, echoing the way the 911 progresses from Carrera to Carrera S to Turbo, but whether the Cross Turismo will follow that pattern is yet to be seen. 

    Those details will be important, but for now the heartening news is that the fundamentals are so well sorted.

    Article Link: https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/porsche/mission-e-cross-turismo-electric-prototype/


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    ... high-end battery electric vehicles seem to be all positives, with no drawbacks. 

    And then you try to charge it, relying on infrastructure that is far from adequate, and you start to think again...

    And that sums it up perfectly (for now). I have no doubt though that EVs are the future and they will be coming. Kudos to Porsche for trying to create exciting vehicles making use of these techniques.


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Did they change their tune on the price? angry


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Somehow I didn't get the impression that he was overly overwhelmed. yes 


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Gauss:

    Somehow I didn't get the impression that he was overly overwhelmed. yes 

    He did come across as being underwhelmed, with no passion nor enthusiasm, and with a monotone voice repeating what he has been told to say... Smiley 


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Common guys its an electric car...... what did you expect?

    The soul of the car is its engine and the exhaust note is its breathing, an electric car has none. 


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Official unveil at Frankfurt next year.

    for sale date Nov 2019

     


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Got my official reservation certificate today let’s see how quick I will be able to get one!

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