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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    the-missile:
    RC:
    Gauss:

    Do you maybe know if the GT3 will also continue production after September? Since there will be no particulate filter supposedly.

    This is still the big mystery out there. Thing is: The new EU law doesn't say anything about a particulate filter, it just provides new emissions regulations. However, it seems that the only way to meet them is...a particulate filter. Maybe Porsche found a way around it, maybe a loophole, I don't have a clue. There is also that rumor with the 4.2 l engine and of course the new rumor with the first batch EU and second batch ROW cars (after August).

    I do not understand why Porsche doesn't clarify this, it would help a lot of customers to make the right decision.

    GT3 was homologated before september 2017 so its homologation stops before september 2018.

    if they want to sell it past september, they will have to get a new homologation Smiley

    5000+ 991.2 GT3RS is a bit optimistic. they can't really go more than 20-25 GT a day. 1 year production would mean 4000+ units.

    First GT3RS did not meet 5000 units in almost 18 months production. 

    we all heard 6000+ worldwide 991.1 GT3RS, no?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    No one says + 6000 except at some stage a runour. 

    The concensus is around 5000 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:

    No one says + 6000 except at some stage a runour. 

    The concensus is around 5000 

    all is rumor...Nobody know real numbers...

    Like I said my dealer have 1 GT3 RS for 3 GT2 RS...


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 993 RS -  991 GT3 RS


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    If that’s an accurate representation of Lizard then kiss

    Glad I am not taking WP.. ruins the looks IMO.


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    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    If that’s an accurate representation of Lizard then kiss

    Glad I am not taking WP.. ruins the looks IMO.

    I could not agree more.Smiley

    LG is the best color for the car and the WP just doesn't fir the color scheme. Did you order PCCB's. I am still trying to justify the cost given how good the Porsche standard brakes are.


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    You have your way. I have my way. As for the correct way and the only way, it does not exist.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Now these look like proper RS... None of that silver or black non color picks.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I almost like the chalk one best.... benefits fom the contrasting pieces.  By the way, what do the bonnet vents actually do? Assume given the Porsche ethos they must be functional. 


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    2017 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    4trac:

    I almost like the chalk one best.... benefits fom the contrasting pieces.  By the way, what do the bonnet vents actually do? Assume given the Porsche ethos they must be functional. 

     

    They are the brake cooling ducts for the front brakes. No drag penalty vs the old path of stealing air flow from underneath the car.

    Tech pass through from GT2RS.

    Outside of the front bumper, the whole car is a GT2RS with a different engine.
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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Whoopsy:
    4trac:

    I almost like the chalk one best.... benefits fom the contrasting pieces.  By the way, what do the bonnet vents actually do? Assume given the Porsche ethos they must be functional. 

     

    They are the brake cooling ducts for the front brakes. No drag penalty vs the old path of stealing air flow from underneath the car.

    Tech pass through from GT2RS.

    Outside of the front bumper, the whole car is a GT2RS with a different engine.
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    same spring rate as the GT2RS? then it should be still stiffer than the .1RS i suppose.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Whoopsy:
    4trac:

    I almost like the chalk one best.... benefits fom the contrasting pieces.  By the way, what do the bonnet vents actually do? Assume given the Porsche ethos they must be functional. 

     

    They are the brake cooling ducts for the front brakes. No drag penalty vs the old path of stealing air flow from underneath the car.

    Tech pass through from GT2RS.

    Outside of the front bumper, the whole car is a GT2RS with a different engine.
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    small difference with GT2RS, 3RS does not have ball joint on the rear steering system which 2RS has.Smiley

    the rest is the same...and very close to GT3 as well Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I believe 5,000 units could be right since my info is (someone who knows the reality of things):

    > Only very few cars until July 31st w/o PF (and about only 40% possible with WP)

    > From September, "no problem to get a car" since the version with PF will be built through 2019 over many months (sounds strange due to start of 992 but this is what my source said).


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    991.1 GT3 RS, Cayman GT4, 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8, 997.2 GT3, Lotus Exige S, 964 Turbo 3.3 / Coming March 2018: AMG GTR


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    GoHardGT3RS:

    I believe 5,000 units could be right since my info is (someone who knows the reality of things):

    > Only very few cars until July 31st w/o PF (and about only 40% possible with WP)

    > From September, "no problem to get a car" since the version with PF will be built through 2019 over many months (sounds strange due to start of 992 but this is what my source said).

    Later 991 models will indeed overlap with the early 992 models, just as with previous 911 generation changes at Porsche! Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    GoHardGT3RS:

    I believe 5,000 units could be right since my info is (someone who knows the reality of things):

    > Only very few cars until July 31st w/o PF (and about only 40% possible with WP)

    > From September, "no problem to get a car" since the version with PF will be built through 2019 over many months (sounds strange due to start of 992 but this is what my source said).

    why is July 31st?

    the regulation starts from 1st September Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Because of factory closed in August.


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    991.1 GT3 RS, Cayman GT4, 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8, 997.2 GT3, Lotus Exige S, 964 Turbo 3.3 / Coming March 2018: AMG GTR


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    See on reenlist :

    the car will be available to order now. Here is how Porsche stated it;

    "ZUFFENHAUSEN, Germany – Porsche’s Motorsport division has raised performance potential of the 911 GT3 RS in a mid-life facelift for the existing 991-series model, which underpins the German automaker’s extensive GT-based motorsport activities.

    Available to order now prior to a public debut at next month’s Geneva motor show, the ’18 model receives an added 20 hp from a lightly modified version of Porsche Motorsport’s race-bred 4.0L 6-cyl. engine, increasing its reserves to 513 hp at 8,250 rpm."

    Yet, to my knowledge no dealer in NA has received any allocations. How can you order if no allocations are available. Additionally, most of us believed that the model would be a 2019 but the bulletin states it will be a 2018.

    The only possible explanation is the bulletin is directed to only European countries but if that is the case it should have stated that. Porsche needs to be clearer as to when we will have an opportunity to order the car. PCNA owes us that much.


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 993 RS -  991 GT3 RS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:
    DaveGordon:

    If that’s an accurate representation of Lizard then kiss

    Glad I am not taking WP.. ruins the looks IMO.

    I could not agree more.Smiley

    LG is the best color for the car and the WP just doesn't fir the color scheme. Did you order PCCB's. I am still trying to justify the cost given how good the Porsche standard brakes are.

    No PCCB for me.  I need to keep the cost down, plus they would worry me on track.  So option-wise, just green (probably), green cage, leather (undecided on the lizard interior), and lift.  Otherwise the freebie ones we get here: black LEDs, reversing camera, sport chrono, 90 litre tank, cruise control, auto-dimming mirrors, and digital radio.

    I'm a bit annoyed about Swiss Pack forcing black LEDs on us - not sure I would choose it otherwise - indeed I was toying with silver wheels/lights combo before I realised the configurator is a bit broken and incorrectly shows silver LEDs in conjunction with the Swiss Pack. 


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    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    GoHardGT3RS:

    I believe 5,000 units could be right since my info is (someone who knows the reality of things):

    > Only very few cars until July 31st w/o PF (and about only 40% possible with WP)

    > From September, "no problem to get a car" since the version with PF will be built through 2019 over many months (sounds strange due to start of 992 but this is what my source said).

    Sounds about right. Consensus is +5000 cars, so maybe 5001, maybe 5999, maybe even a low 6000 number but 5000 is/was planned from the start. Should be achievable in one year, especially since 991.2 Carrera production is lower (new 992 coming) and it may take some time end of 2018 or early 2019 before 992 production/orders pick up.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    If that’s an accurate representation of Lizard then kiss

    Glad I am not taking WP.. ruins the looks IMO.

    +1

    i think this time if all goes well, we will have two "twins" Smiley

    finger crossed

    Smiley


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    In the Swiss configurator it says : WP with light wheels available  from  : 2 / 2019  

    So the rumor about one batch for EU and another one for ROW after september does not hold .....   yes


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Super Darius:
    DaveGordon:

    If that’s an accurate representation of Lizard then kiss

    Glad I am not taking WP.. ruins the looks IMO.

    +1

    i think this time if all goes well, we will have two "twins" Smiley

    finger crossed

    Smiley

    With mine it would be triplets ......... just worried we might see frogs all over the place starting this summer ! 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:

    In the Swiss configurator it says : WP with light wheels available  from  : 2 / 2019  

    So the rumor about one batch for EU and another one for ROW after september does not hold .....   yes

    I said before that production for RS is at least to November as per conversation held few weeks ago. final production month will be given soon.Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    the-missile:
    Gnil:

    In the Swiss configurator it says : WP with light wheels available  from  : 2 / 2019  

    So the rumor about one batch for EU and another one for ROW after september does not hold .....   yes

    I said before that production for RS is at least to November as per conversation held few weeks ago. final production month will be given soon.Smiley

    Your comment could still imply that a first batch is for EU and second batch for ROW ( all the production after september as it would not comply to the new emission law ) 

    But with this availability of WP + light wheel in Switzerland only from 2 / 2019 , it means that cars will be euro compatible  after September . ( filter or another way to pass the emission test ) 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    No, I asked specifically for Euro cars as I need to know if I order a car here, I will be able to ship it back with me when I leave...


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    the-missile:

    No, I asked specifically for Euro cars as I need to know if I order a car here, I will be able to ship it back with me when I leave...

    Then the only remaining question is : are cars after September identical to the ones before ? If yes, what did they do as to meet the new polution standards ?


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Heh, so, surprise-surprise, it'll turn into a 5000-odd run just like the last one...

    Does make me wonder why .2 GT3 production was kept so low, though - given there weren't issues with certification etc.

    What is the estimate on production numbers of the .2 GT3? I assume it'll be more or less the same ratio as .1 GT3 and RS?


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    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    There will be cars for EU also after September and also in 2019.


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    991.1 GT3 RS, Cayman GT4, 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8, 997.2 GT3, Lotus Exige S, 964 Turbo 3.3 / Coming March 2018: AMG GTR


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:

    In the Swiss configurator it says : WP with light wheels available  from  : 2 / 2019  

    So the rumor about one batch for EU and another one for ROW after september does not hold .....   yes

    So, some may be coming to the UK too Smiley..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:

    In the Swiss configurator it says : WP with light wheels available  from  : 2 / 2019  

    So the rumor about one batch for EU and another one for ROW after september does not hold .....   yes

    Do you have a link, Gnil...Smiley


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:
    the-missile:

    No, I asked specifically for Euro cars as I need to know if I order a car here, I will be able to ship it back with me when I leave...

    Then the only remaining question is : are cars after September identical to the ones before ? If yes, what did they do as to meet the new polution standards ?

    I don't know it yet. Smiley but if they cross 1st september they can pump them comfortably. Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

     

    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


     
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