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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Hmm, not sure what to think then...


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Grant:

    Hmm, not sure what to think then...

    Do you really need that last 10-15% grip for the Evo when you have a Porsche for high-perf driving??  As per my post above, I decided I don't, and so have tires that I can push right until there is snow that stays (eg. late November to early December) - obviously you are the driver and have to decide as per your uses.  


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    To the defense of the PZero: I drove a R8 with the Pzero yesterday and switched to my car with the Michelin Cup 2 and the steering precision is better on the PZero, it is pretty noticeable. The Cup 2 offers way more grip, especially if it gets temperature. Only advantage of the worse steering precision seems to be that the Cup 2 is much calmer in the steering than the PZero on bad roads. That (steering) nervousness on bad roads is completely gone.


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Its a different PZero than in the 991 though.


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    4trac:
    Grant:

    Hmm, not sure what to think then...

    Do you really need that last 10-15% grip for the Evo when you have a Porsche for high-perf driving??

    Probably not Smiley


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Carlos from Spain:

    Its a different PZero than in the 991 though.

    True but I have to admit that I like the PZero N1 quite a lot (I have it on my GTS Cab right now). On dry pavement definitely a very good tire but a bit tire pressure sensitive (I think).


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    In the dry they are all pretty good, but even then I still prefer the PS4S. In the wet it's not even closet', s like comparing a winter tire in the summer versus a high perf summer tire 


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    So, I ended up getting the new 4S Michelin for my Evo and in order to be sure I don’t freeze them I bought a second set of wheels.  So, I have snow tires on one set of wheels and 4S on the other and I can change them in 30 min at home as needed.  

    Perfect solution for OCD car guy indecision


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    I still can't get a hold of 4S - 315/35/20 tires for the F12, while FF and GTC4Lusso owners can  laugh

    I'll be replacing mine by end of the year and was hoping they'd add the 315 by this year and avoid getting another set of Super Sport tires.


    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Interesting summary (in German) of PS4, Cup 2 and race slick... from 14:00 to 23:00 min:

    https://youtu.be/iIdFTaJLLJ8

     


    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    For those that are germanic-speaking-challenged indecision can anyone sum it up in a couple of lines? 


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    No translation apps on Android? smiley


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    bluelines:

    No translation apps on Android? smiley

    Smiley ... Sure let me grab it and find how to say banned in Swedish... Smiley almo.gif


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    cool


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Since I provided the link to the video, I will also translate some bits… 

    Cup 2 and Pilot Sport 4 both feature dual-compound treads, inner part providing grip at lower temperatures (PS4 from single digit degrees of Centrigrade), outer tread designed to withstand higher forces and temperatures during cornering. Of course , PS4 more usable for street driving including rainy conditions, due to compound and tread pattern.

    Cup2 closer in performance to racing slick than to PS4S, 7% bigger contact patch over PS4.

    Tread depth of 8 mm (PS4), 5,4 mm and 20% more tread than 1st gen (Cup2), 2 to 2,5 mm of usable compound on racing slick.


    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Thanks Ferdie kiss


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    Carlos from Spain:
    bluelines:

    No translation apps on Android? smiley

    Smiley ... Sure let me grab it and find how to say banned in Swedish... Smiley almo.gif

    Hey, Carlos...this is my job. Smiley

    Smiley


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    Re: Which Michelin tyres?

    I had a good run in the mountains with the PS4 in full rain conditions. Amazing performance. Clearly they are great on the dry but on wet roads, I was blown away (vs PS2)...Super happy with those tyres.


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