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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

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    SciFrog:

    Debatable angry

    Smiley


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    https://youtu.be/TGYITqMPc7U


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    Thanks!


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    It was Tuesday 9:30 when I got the keys for the Performante in Boblingen and heard the sweet words “it’s yours for the entire day”. Not to so sweet was the weather - cold, rainy and up in Black Forest - foggy. But it just helped prove that the Perfromante is the most capable car I’ve ever driven no matter what.

    Comfort and ergonomics

    I know that people expect quirks from Lamborghini’s but the moment I got into the car I felt at home. The bucket seats are not the most comfortable but neither as terrible as some people have said. The upper part is too narrow for wider shoulders. I’d definitely go for the comfort seats. Everything else is a standard Huracan covered in alcantara. If feels like a military machine...and for a good reason. The driving position is superb. I especially like how close to the driver you can adjust the steering wheel on modern Lamborghini's. At 1.87m I fit perfectly fine but I can imagine a 1.90+ person feeling too close to the roof. I was told that NOT ordering the electric seats puts you 15mm lower so it is a must. My only ergonomics concern is the A-pillars which obstruct the visibility when you drive fast on tighter corners. The advanced sound system is great and can actually be enjoyed because the car is far more versatile than expected. Just put it in Strada and it is perfectly civilized and quiet (when you are gentile). The build quality of the interior is superb. 

    Chassis and steering

    This is the most confidence-inspiring car I've ever driven. That was supposed to be the role of the Turbo but no more. It feels like you drive on rails, only you are laying the rails with the steering wheel in real time. I did some high speed Autobahn driving in the heavy rain. I've never felt so stable at 200+ km/h. From Boblingen I went to Black Forest towards Baden-Baden. It was raining hard, the temperature fell to 10C. The levels of traction and stability were unbelievable. I don't think that there's any other car in the world that can touch it especially in the wet. And there's no learning curve. You just jump in the car and it delivers immediately. If there's any understeer I couldn't find it. It feels absolutely neutral and centered. The steering is a bit heavy but precise enough. Maybe a bit artificially heavy at high speeds. It's not at the level of the 720S or the GT3 RS but still very good. The suspension was another surprise - less jarring than the GT3 RS but yet the wheel travel is short and the car stays absolutely flat. It is unbelievable that a 7m Ring car can be so civilized.

    Where’s the catch then? If I have to point at one thing it would be that the car probably feels to planted. It lacks the playfulness and finesse of the 720S, the 488 or the GT3. There’s just a little bit of Audi feeling there. But it is superior to all those cars in so many other dimensions that I wouldn’t think too much about it. 

    Engine, gearbox and brakes

    The brakes felt like they’ve been taken from a Porsche and that’s the biggest compliment I can give. Once again I was reminded how bad were the 720’s. The engine is such a masterpiece that I’d be happy to trade the power advantage of the 720S for that sound and response. I guess it’s not much different than the standard Huracan but anyways, it has to be pointed out more often that this is the best engine in this league. The gearbox is flawless and instant both in auto in manual. Overall the Performante impressed me far more than the 720S. I know that the weather didn’t do the McLaren a favor but this are just my feelings, not some objective, instrumental test. The Performante is the perfect combination of ultimate performance, drama and exotic look. I left with the feeling that I want one badly. Thankfully there are production slots for January.


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Woof, that was unexpected! Thanks for the review, these real life test matter more to me than all the journo reviews, makes me want to test one too...Definitely the prettiest car of the class.


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Herbaliser:

    I did some high speed Autobahn driving in the heavy rain. I've never felt so stable at 200+ km/h. From Boblingen I went to Black Forest towards Baden-Baden. It was raining hard, the temperature fell to 10C. The levels of traction and stability were unbelievable.

    Great review & very interesting to read Smiley 

    However, when I read the above I have to point out still that this is super risky and the reason you are still with us is not the car or how well it handles but good fate... Just saying - super risky Smiley


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Yea dude, you went 200+ in heavy rain and cold temps? That's nuts. Why would you ever care how well it does something like that? You were one puddle and aquaplane away from a nasty accident...


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Herbaliser:

    It was Tuesday 9:30 when I got the keys for the Performante in Boblingen and heard the sweet words “it’s yours for the entire day”. Not to so sweet was the weather - cold, rainy and up in Black Forest - foggy. But it just helped prove that the Perfromante is the most capable car I’ve ever driven no matter what.

    Comfort and ergonomics

    I know that people expect quirks from Lamborghini’s but the moment I got into the car I felt at home. The bucket seats are not the most comfortable but neither as terrible as some people have said. The upper part is too narrow for wider shoulders. I’d definitely go for the comfort seats. Everything else is a standard Huracan covered in alcantara. If feels like a military machine...and for a good reason. The driving position is superb. I especially like how close to the driver you can adjust the steering wheel on modern Lamborghini's. At 1.87m I fit perfectly fine but I can imagine a 1.90+ person feeling too close to the roof. I was told that NOT ordering the electric seats puts you 15mm lower so it is a must. My only ergonomics concern is the A-pillars which obstruct the visibility when you drive fast on tighter corners. The advanced sound system is great and can actually be enjoyed because the car is far more versatile than expected. Just put it in Strada and it is perfectly civilized and quiet (when you are gentile). The build quality of the interior is superb. 

    Chassis and steering

    This is the most confidence-inspiring car I've ever driven. That was supposed to be the role of the Turbo but no more. It feels like you drive on rails, only you are laying the rails with the steering wheel in real time. I did some high speed Autobahn driving in the heavy rain. I've never felt so stable at 200+ km/h. From Boblingen I went to Black Forest towards Baden-Baden. It was raining hard, the temperature fell to 10C. The levels of traction and stability were unbelievable. I don't think that there's any other car in the world that can touch it especially in the wet. And there's no learning curve. You just jump in the car and it delivers immediately. If there's any understeer I couldn't find it. It feels absolutely neutral and centered. The steering is a bit heavy but precise enough. Maybe a bit artificially heavy at high speeds. It's not at the level of the 720S or the GT3 RS but still very good. The suspension was another surprise - less jarring than the GT3 RS but yet the wheel travel is short and the car stays absolutely flat. It is unbelievable that a 7m Ring car can be so civilized.

    Where’s the catch then? If I have to point at one thing it would be that the car probably feels to planted. It lacks the playfulness and finesse of the 720S, the 488 or the GT3. There’s just a little bit of Audi feeling there. But it is superior to all those cars in so many other dimensions that I wouldn’t think too much about it. 

    Engine, gearbox and brakes

    The brakes felt like they’ve been taken from a Porsche and that’s the biggest compliment I can give. Once again I was reminded how bad were the 720’s. The engine is such a masterpiece that I’d be happy to trade the power advantage of the 720S for that sound and response. I guess it’s not much different than the standard Huracan but anyways, it has to be pointed out more often that this is the best engine in this league. The gearbox is flawless and instant both in auto in manual. Overall the Performante impressed me far more than the 720S. I know that the weather didn’t do the McLaren a favor but this are just my feelings, not some objective, instrumental test. The Performante is the perfect combination of ultimate performance, drama and exotic look. I left with the feeling that I want one badly. Thankfully there are production slots for January.

    wooow wooow wooow, i need to get a test drive rather sooner than later. maybe this is even a 488GTO alternative....naturally aspirated, 4WD and killer looks.....hmmmm


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Brilliant review, thanks for the effort! Big fan of the Performante's looks, delighted it appears to deliver on those looks. Now order! wink


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Thanks for the review, brilliant!

    I am so sad that Lambo is unable to offer a 4 or 6-point racing harness for the Performante. That is the reason why I had to pass this car which I want(ed) so much.

    Please Lambo, learn from this and offer it on the next Superleggera/Performante model!

    If you make a track-focussed car, it is simply unbelievable not to offer a racing harness next to the regular seat belt for road driving!!!

    Others like Porsche, Ferrari or AMG (for the GTR) do it better.


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    noone1:

    Yea dude, you went 200+ in heavy rain and cold temps? That's nuts. Why would you ever care how well it does something like that? You were one puddle and aquaplane away from a nasty accident...

    On the autobahn the temperature was 17C and I did the short 200+ runs on stretches where there was no risk, between diesel Audi's and BMW's who were driving also in that speed range. I wasn't really trying to test it, it felt very safe and natural.


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Thank so much for the review! This is my favorite dream car!


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Thanks for taking the time to do this review Smiley. I have been saying for some time that this is THE car in 2017 and you have just backed that up.


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    So many good cars out there...


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Herbaliser:

    It was Tuesday 9:30 when I got the keys for the Performante in Boblingen and heard the sweet words “it’s yours for the entire day”. Not to so sweet was the weather - cold, rainy and up in Black Forest - foggy. But it just helped prove that the Perfromante is the most capable car I’ve ever driven no matter what.

    Comfort and ergonomics

    I know that people expect quirks from Lamborghini’s but the moment I got into the car I felt at home. The bucket seats are not the most comfortable but neither as terrible as some people have said. The upper part is too narrow for wider shoulders. I’d definitely go for the comfort seats. Everything else is a standard Huracan covered in alcantara. If feels like a military machine...and for a good reason. The driving position is superb. I especially like how close to the driver you can adjust the steering wheel on modern Lamborghini's. At 1.87m I fit perfectly fine but I can imagine a 1.90+ person feeling too close to the roof. I was told that NOT ordering the electric seats puts you 15mm lower so it is a must. My only ergonomics concern is the A-pillars which obstruct the visibility when you drive fast on tighter corners. The advanced sound system is great and can actually be enjoyed because the car is far more versatile than expected. Just put it in Strada and it is perfectly civilized and quiet (when you are gentile). The build quality of the interior is superb. 

    Chassis and steering

    This is the most confidence-inspiring car I've ever driven. That was supposed to be the role of the Turbo but no more. It feels like you drive on rails, only you are laying the rails with the steering wheel in real time. I did some high speed Autobahn driving in the heavy rain. I've never felt so stable at 200+ km/h. From Boblingen I went to Black Forest towards Baden-Baden. It was raining hard, the temperature fell to 10C. The levels of traction and stability were unbelievable. I don't think that there's any other car in the world that can touch it especially in the wet. And there's no learning curve. You just jump in the car and it delivers immediately. If there's any understeer I couldn't find it. It feels absolutely neutral and centered. The steering is a bit heavy but precise enough. Maybe a bit artificially heavy at high speeds. It's not at the level of the 720S or the GT3 RS but still very good. The suspension was another surprise - less jarring than the GT3 RS but yet the wheel travel is short and the car stays absolutely flat. It is unbelievable that a 7m Ring car can be so civilized.

    Where’s the catch then? If I have to point at one thing it would be that the car probably feels to planted. It lacks the playfulness and finesse of the 720S, the 488 or the GT3. There’s just a little bit of Audi feeling there. But it is superior to all those cars in so many other dimensions that I wouldn’t think too much about it. 

    Engine, gearbox and brakes

    The brakes felt like they’ve been taken from a Porsche and that’s the biggest compliment I can give. Once again I was reminded how bad were the 720’s. The engine is such a masterpiece that I’d be happy to trade the power advantage of the 720S for that sound and response. I guess it’s not much different than the standard Huracan but anyways, it has to be pointed out more often that this is the best engine in this league. The gearbox is flawless and instant both in auto in manual. Overall the Performante impressed me far more than the 720S. I know that the weather didn’t do the McLaren a favor but this are just my feelings, not some objective, instrumental test. The Performante is the perfect combination of ultimate performance, drama and exotic look. I left with the feeling that I want one badly. Thankfully there are production slots for January.

    Thanks for your reviews Herbaliser, it's great to read comparisons between cars like 911-720s-performante SmileySmiley


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    noone1:

    Yea dude, you went 200+ in heavy rain and cold temps? That's nuts. Why would you ever care how well it does something like that? You were one puddle and aquaplane away from a nasty accident...

    I have to agree. This is the danger of modern cars: They provide a lot of confidence, even at very high speeds in rain but then, suddenly... Smiley He was definitely VERY lucky, especially since I assume the car had Corsa tires (thank god he didn't have the Trofeo R...).


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    crayphile:

    Thanks for taking the time to do this review Smiley. I have been saying for some time that this is THE car in 2017 and you have just backed that up.

    Smiley The only "better" car than my R8. Smiley Smiley 


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    MT review

    https://youtu.be/GiWmP29A35U


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    today i have almost decided to let go of my GT3RS for the huracan performante. i just need to convince my wife that the  trunk is sufficient:::)))) currently the lambo sales rep is working out the deal, delivery should be in Q2 2018. i will keep the car for 1-2 years and then decide whether i want to swap it for the 488GTO. i will test drive the performante in three weeks time, then sign the contract if it is what i expect. i had the huracan for a day a year ago and a gallardo for a week some time ago, so i am kind of familiar with the lambo feeling. tunnel vision and all that::::)))) but i really miss the looks of a supercar, this is where the GT3RS disappoints. 


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    noone1:

    Yea dude, you went 200+ in heavy rain and cold temps? That's nuts. Why would you ever care how well it does something like that? You were one puddle and aquaplane away from a nasty accident...

    Do you ever drive on the autobahn? Everyone in a decent car drives >200km/h traffic permitting... Smiley


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    RC:
    noone1:

    Yea dude, you went 200+ in heavy rain and cold temps? That's nuts. Why would you ever care how well it does something like that? You were one puddle and aquaplane away from a nasty accident...

    I have to agree. This is the danger of modern cars: They provide a lot of confidence, even at very high speeds in rain but then, suddenly... Smiley He was definitely VERY lucky, especially since I assume the car had Corsa tires (thank god he didn't have the Trofeo R...).

    Boy...this place is getting full of old and wise guys telling me what I don't know about driving, money, whatever. None of you was in the car but still you know better than me. It's even more ridiculous that this is coming from someone who constantly brags about his autobahn encounters with his entire family on board. But then again...you were a rally driver and I am nobody. It's too bad that the quality content and the valuable advices get more and more diluted by all this empty talk.

    I think it's time for me to move on...Thanks everyone for the last 10 years!


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Porker:
    noone1:

    Yea dude, you went 200+ in heavy rain and cold temps? That's nuts. Why would you ever care how well it does something like that? You were one puddle and aquaplane away from a nasty accident...

    Do you ever drive on the autobahn? Everyone in a decent car drives >200km/h traffic permitting... Smiley

    In heavy rain? Last time I was driving on the autobahn in heavy rain I definitely wasn't going 200+ and neither was anyone else.


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Herbaliser:
    RC:
    noone1:

    Yea dude, you went 200+ in heavy rain and cold temps? That's nuts. Why would you ever care how well it does something like that? You were one puddle and aquaplane away from a nasty accident...

    I have to agree. This is the danger of modern cars: They provide a lot of confidence, even at very high speeds in rain but then, suddenly... Smiley He was definitely VERY lucky, especially since I assume the car had Corsa tires (thank god he didn't have the Trofeo R...).

    Boy...this place is getting full of old and wise guys telling me what I don't know about driving, money, whatever. None of you was in the car but still you know better than me. It's even more ridiculous that this is coming from someone who constantly brags about his autobahn encounters with his entire family on board. But then again...you were a rally driver and I am nobody. It's too bad that the quality content and the valuable advices get more and more diluted by all this empty talk.

    I think it's time for me to move on...Thanks everyone for the last 10 years!

    There are still people on your side of the fence, don't leave us behind with the fun police! SmileySmiley

     

     


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    +1

    It's the internet, guys. Don't tell what others should do, sitting behind a pc on the other side of the planet. wink


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Telling people what to do is a core principle of the internet


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Porker:
    Herbaliser:

    I think it's time for me to move on...Thanks everyone for the last 10 years!

    There are still people on your side of the fence, don't leave us behind with the fun police! SmileySmiley

    +1


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    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    Spudgun, you're literally telling people what they should do from your PC on the other side of the planet by telling people what they should not do.


    Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

    It would be nice if people were supportive once and a while rather than always critical. I catch myself now and then. I understand the desire to simply walk away and let go. Sad


     
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