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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    On a more serious note, the chassis was improved with wobbly rear wheel steering and I likely minor tweaks to PASM and PDK software. I doubt the car is identical to the .1 GTS with a blower engine in the rear.

    In any case, I am a tad disappointed with the BMW time. I watched another video review of the CS and it was simply stellar. With 10% more torque than the GTS and likely better suspension I had expected it to be faster. Nevertheless, the most interesting affordable car that BMW built in the last 10+ years. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Affordable? It's like a 125k 3er.  This car should be a slight premium to an m3 at best.

    BMW hasn't been able to compete in the this performance tier for a decade now. Overprice, underperform. Audi is the new BMW imo.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    You could also think of it as a detuned M4 GTS. Then it is affordable. 

    Yes, Audi overtook BMW years ago in this segment. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    bluelines:

    On a more serious note, the chassis was improved with wobbly rear wheel steering and I likely minor tweaks to PASM and PDK software. I doubt the car is identical to the .1 GTS with a blower engine in the rear.

    Oh no doubt, just the rear wheel steering is a plus as well as various tweeks they always do in the facelift, but I was referring that the GTS has nothing over the GT3 in terms of chasis Smiley It's all due solely to the blowers.

    BTW It absolutely owned the M4CS and in that case it's not due to the turbos Smiley

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    The drivers choice is always the GT3, boys.... blush ..


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    I just read that Techart has released software which is enabled in Sport / Sport Plus and results in 510hp and 630Nm angel


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    throt:

    The drivers choice is always the GT3, boys.... blush ..

    I wish but with 45k+ on the clock of my GTS right now, I would of probably been through my 5th or 6th engine if I would of bought a GT3 and 10,000 gallons of oil smiley 1497879697817bhauen.gif


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    throt:

    The drivers choice is always the GT3, boys.... blush ..

    Buddy, I believe you meant driver's SmileySmileySmiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Carlos from Spain:
    throt:

    The drivers choice is always the GT3, boys.... blush ..

    I wish but with 45k+ on the clock of my GTS right now, I would of probably been through my 5th or 6th engine if I would of bought a GT3 and 10,000 gallons of oil smiley 1497879697817bhauen.gif

    A firecracker of an engine Smiley

    IMG_6554.GIF


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    bluelines:
    throt:

    The drivers choice is always the GT3, boys.... blush ..

    Buddy, I believe you meant driver's SmileySmileySmiley

    Smiley. driver's, okay Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Carlos from Spain:
    throt:

    The drivers choice is always the GT3, boys.... blush ..

    I wish but with 45k+ on the clock of my GTS right now, I would of probably been through my 5th or 6th engine if I would of bought a GT3 and 10,000 gallons of oil smiley 1497879697817bhauen.gif


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS

     

    Smiley, you big brute of a man Smiley Smiley..


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    throt

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    bluelines:
    Carlos from Spain:
    throt:

    The drivers choice is always the GT3, boys.... blush ..

    I wish but with 45k+ on the clock of my GTS right now, I would of probably been through my 5th or 6th engine if I would of bought a GT3 and 10,000 gallons of oil smiley 1497879697817bhauen.gif

    A firecracker of an engine Smiley

    IMG_6554.GIF

    Smiley,,, my baby staying strong, buddy. 6600 clean miles, all slow miles of course though Smiley. My fastest in her is a dizzy hairy chest 118mph Smiley, bless her..Smiley Smiley..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    throt:

    Smiley,,, my baby staying strong, buddy. 6600 clean miles, all slow miles of course though Smiley. My fastest in her is a dizzy hairy chest 118mph Smiley, bless her..Smiley Smiley..

    Some day you'll get her out of 3rd gear broken heartindecision


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    indecision,it has more gears no indecision..

    Have a lovely weekend my rugged butch manly pals blush ..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    throt:

    indecision,it has more gears no indecision..

    Have a lovely weekend my rugged butch manly pals blush ..

    Sunday tomorrow.. Take the GT3 out for a spin! Smileywink


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    throt:

    indecision,it has more gears no indecision..

    Have a lovely weekend my rugged butch manly pals blush ..

    You too!wink


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    How much slower would the manual be around the green hell compared to the pdk out of interest?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    With a professional driver 3 seconds according to Sport Auto.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Not a lot really then! Not a huge amount slower than a 991.1 gt3 with pdk


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    jamesdamanuk1:

    Not a lot really then! Not a huge amount slower than a 991.1 gt3 with pdk

    And on equal Cup tires, GTS would be quicker than on Corsas


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Grant:
    jamesdamanuk1:

    Not a lot really then! Not a huge amount slower than a 991.1 gt3 with pdk

    And on equal Cup tires, GTS would be quicker than on Corsas

    Not so sure - based on Sportauto the new Corsa N0 seems to be broadly as fast as the regular Cup Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Regular Cup meaning previous version?  Cup 1?  Not like new Cups on 991.2 GT3, right?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Grant:

    Regular Cup meaning previous version?  Cup 1?  Not like new Cups on 991.2 GT3, right?

    No, Cup 2 (but not the ZP version they used for the Supertest of the GTR or the Corvette). The 991.2 GT3 already uses the Cup 2 Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    I test drove a 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS today with PDK, -20mm sport suspension, PDCC, rear-wheel steering, etc. A very nice car. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

    You can all flame me now, but I prefer the engine character and sound to the 991.1. The additional torque was much welcome and it was hard to tell that it is a turbo engine. Fantastic response. The PSE cabin sound was not as harsh as the 991.1 and had more of an classic air cooled howl. Porsche has got rid of the pops and crackles in Sport Plus mode. Nice! kiss

    Maybe it is time to hand over the manliness to someone else on the forum. I might drive that one with two child seats in the rear soon indecision

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    bluelines:

    Maybe it is time to hand over the manliness to someone else on the forum.

    DCBC1B1B-0315-4297-BCD1-7F26C6618945.jpg

    You called !!..Smiley..

    Very nice ride there. Go for it.....Smiley..


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    bluelines:

    I test drove a 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS today with PDK, -20mm sport suspension, PDCC, rear-wheel steering, etc. A very nice car. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

    You can all flame me now, but I prefer the engine character and sound to the 991.1. The additional torque was much welcome and it was hard to tell that it is a turbo engine. Fantastic response. The PSE cabin sound was not as harsh as the 991.1 and had more of an classic air cooled howl. Porsche has got rid of the pops and crackles in Sport Plus mode. Nice! kiss

    Maybe it is time to hand over the manliness to someone else on the forum. I might drive that one with two child seats in the rear soon indecision

    DCBC1B1B-0315-4297-BCD1-7F26C6618945.jpg

    Why don't you want to wait for the new 992 ?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    That's exactly what I am considering... whilst I like the current GTS, the 992 is around the corner.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    Firstly, there is always a next model around the corner. By the time the 992 GTS is presented in 2021, the 992.2 is around the corner... One can keep playing the waiting game forever.

    Secondly, does anyone expect a revolutionary, rather than evolutionary, change with the 992? Nah, it will be the usual incremental changes as in the last 50 years.

    Thirdly, getting a 991.2 GTS does not exclude upgrading it to a 992 at some point.

    That is why I am not waiting indecision 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models

    bluelines:

    Secondly, does anyone expect a revolutionary, rather than evolutionary, change with the 992? Nah, it will be the usual incremental changes as in the last 50 years.

    The more revolutionary changes happen every 14 years (every 2 generations).  This one will be close to 991 (like 996 and 997 relationship).


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