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    599HGTE

     Presume many have seen autocar uk's (online) first-drive review of 599HGTE

    Have those who have driven 599 had a chance to drive HGTE to offer any perspectives re: dynamic differences (I haven't, but curious if our EU friends have advanced views)?

    Will be interested to see what NBR times HGTE will deliver; disappointed that F didn't seem to revise F1 box for shift speeds or clutch life robustness (or tweak motor); also have not seen any mention of revised CCM; and, on a lighter note, find the seat logos of "Handling GTE" to be aesthetically what one expects from a US or Japanese mfr, not F or P


    Re: 599HGTE

    hsww:

     Presume many have seen autocar uk's (online) first-drive review of 599HGTE

    Have those who have driven 599 had a chance to drive HGTE to offer any perspectives re: dynamic differences (I haven't, but curious if our EU friends have advanced views)?

    Will be interested to see what NBR times HGTE will deliver; disappointed that F didn't seem to revise F1 box for shift speeds or clutch life robustness (or tweak motor); also have not seen any mention of revised CCM; and, on a lighter note, find the seat logos of "Handling GTE" to be aesthetically what one expects from a US or Japanese mfr, not F or P

     

    Unfortunately, I have not driven the HGTE yet.

    If you ask me, the suspension setup has most room for improvement (weight reduction would be even better, of course Smiley).

    My personal whish list:

    The 599 suspension is still not precise enough: The suspension (even in Race mode) is a bit too soft. If they could provide a far more aggressive Race mode that would be a major improvement. Also, the car would clearly benefit from the use of Corsa tires. The PZeros used on the standard 599 in part exlplain why the car feels a tad indirect and lacks precision.

    Also, they should add brake pad sensors to the outer brake pads to avoid unnoticed damages to the CCM discs on the track.

    Of course, an improved F1 system (shorter shift times) would never hurt.

    I look forward to the Supertest of the HGTE. Maybe it is a bit faster than the regular 599 Smiley


    Re: 599HGTE

     All good points you raise

    IIRC, HGTE includes new, presumably Corsa tires; however, was surprised by lack of any noted changes to the stability control software in HGTE

    Interesting observation about the brake pad sensors; was impressed that 599 has real-time tire temperature read-outs in the instrument panel; I don't know how accurate are those read-outs, but I would imagine they offer useful data esp when using Corsa-like tires, esp when tires are cold or ambient temps are ~50F (or less)

    Look forward to the Supertest as well; HGTE specs seem a bit lacking in technical advances, when considering 599 was launched nearly 3 yrs ago, but perhaps Supertest will reveal more insights


    Re: 599HGTE

     Just read a 4car uk first-drive of HGTE; perhaps I missed it in initial press summaries, but apparently HGTE F1 box is now 85 msec shifts (vs 100 msec for 599 and 60 ms for Scud); revised throttle response and exhaust note; allegedly 0.6 s faster around Fiorano

    Perhaps all the subtle tweaks will add up to significant changes to qualitative driving experience (beyond NBR times); will look forward to further press impressions and testing

    I believe drivers republic is currently doing a back-to-back comparison of 599 vs GT2, but I suspect it's unfortunately a non-HGTE they're using


    Re: 599HGTE

     Great additional infos Smiley Thanks for posting SmileySmiley


     
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