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    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    nberry:

    Lain, enjoy, enjoy. enjoy.

    I will do so next spring as well despite the residuals.. 

     

    ISUK, could you please explain to Nick that your name is a variation on the spelling of the scottish name "Ian",  and is spelt "capital "I" small "ain". Smiley

    I know you are just being too polite to correct his writing of your name, but it makes my pedant's heart bleed every time I read it. Yet if I corrected, him he'd just say I'm being persinickety again. Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    ISUK:

    A cooling fan isn't working apparently plus a few other minor issues. Just my luck. I knew getting a car built the week that Italy went out of the World Cup would be dicey

     But if Italy had gone through to the final you still wouldn't have your car.  Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    fritz:

    ISUK, could you please explain to Nick that your name is a variation on the spelling of the scottish name "Ian",  and is spelt "capital "I" small "ain". Smiley

    I know you are just being too polite to correct his writing of your name, but it makes my pedant's heart bleed every time I read it. Yet if I corrected, him he'd just say I'm being persinickety again. Smiley

     

    Smiley That is absolutely correct fritz. It is the Scottish spelling and is actually the Gaelic name for John. I've got so used to people spelling it incorrectly over the years I've almost come to expect it but Mick Berry's use of Lain is a new one on me Smiley Smiley


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

     For some reason I have difficulty capitalizing the I. Iain I hope you're not offended but if you are I will place you in the same category as my  friend and english mentor FrItz; a pain in the ass.


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    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    Mick,

    I'm not offended at all


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    ISUK:
    fritz:

    ISUK, could you please explain to Nick that your name is a variation on the spelling of the scottish name "Ian",  and is spelt "capital "I" small "ain". Smiley

    I know you are just being too polite to correct his writing of your name, but it makes my pedant's heart bleed every time I read it. Yet if I corrected, him he'd just say I'm being persinickety again. Smiley

     

    Smiley That is absolutely correct fritz. It is the Scottish spelling and is actually the Gaelic name for John. I've got so used to people spelling it incorrectly over the years I've almost come to expect it but Mick Berry's use of Lain is a new one on me Smiley Smiley

    Bingo!
    Finally, I've always wondered and have therefore never used either Iain nor Lain.

    Thought it was Lain and couldn't figure out whe people were using what looked like a non-capital L or l. Now I see the I is actually a capital i and not a non-capital L.

    Now I can sleep tonight Smiley


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    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    FWIW, I initially thought it was Lain but then I received an email from one of the posters and he advised me it was Iain. Because the fonts on this site are so small (I have tried adjusting the size several times) it is difficult to distinguish between a lower case i and capitalized I.

    Of course none of this would matter BUT FOR a fussy member who cannot understand the difference between a chat site and doctoral thesis.Smiley


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    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    Mick,

    Just use a lower case l (that's el in phoenetics) in front of the "ain" and bingo... that does the trick

     


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    nberry:

     Iain I hope you're not offended but if you are I will place you in the same category as my  friend and english mentor FrItz; a pain in the ass.

     I just knew I must be good at something. Smiley

    I mean at being a pain in the ass, of course, not mentor. Smiley

    Actually, I only wrote that because I noticed that Mick's error was also leading other, younger impressionable rennteamers astray. Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    FFaust:
    ISUK:
    fritz:

    ISUK, could you please explain to Nick that your name is a variation on the spelling of the scottish name "Ian",  and is spelt "capital "I" small "ain". Smiley

    I know you are just being too polite to correct his writing of your name, but it makes my pedant's heart bleed every time I read it. Yet if I corrected, him he'd just say I'm being persinickety again. Smiley

     

    Smiley That is absolutely correct fritz. It is the Scottish spelling and is actually the Gaelic name for John. I've got so used to people spelling it incorrectly over the years I've almost come to expect it but Mick Berry's use of Lain is a new one on me Smiley Smiley

    Bingo!
    Finally, I've always wondered and have therefore never used either Iain nor Lain.

    Thought it was Lain and couldn't figure out whe people were using what looked like a non-capital L or l. Now I see the I is actually a capital i and not a non-capital L.

    Now I can sleep tonight Smiley

    You can learn a lot from rennteam.com. Smiley

    But just don't take everything you read here for gospel. Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

     Oh well, now you'll get to see the Spider first and get the option to pick up a used 458 at significant discount.


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    wedouglas:

     Oh well, now you'll get to see the Spider first and get the option to pick up a used 458 at significant discount.


    Good point. Maybe I will eventually feel like my dealer did me a favour.


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    Guys -

    Just a question since I'm clearly not in the F-car income bracket ...

    I've never had to wait more than 3 months for a car I've put a deposit on.

    The deposit and lead times on these cars are very long. A year or two (or 3) is not unheard of. I can imagine how bent I would be when after waiting for a year or more and approaching my delivery date, my dealer calls me and says - "We're pushing you back another 6months/ year. Take it or leave it." 

    In that case you'd be fully justified in canceling your order. However, I've heard that even after you cancel it can take MONTHS(!) to get your deposit back. (They didn't wait months to take your deposit!).

    So my question is do you get your money back with any sort of interest. Was that money put in an escrow account for instance? I'm not in the business of giving companies large interest free loans, and in my eyes they broke there contract with you when they moved the delivery date w/o valid reason or explanation.


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    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    In my case, the deposit went straight to the dealer. It will be an uphill struggle to ask for interest.

    I have signed the standard order T & C, which absolves my dealer from almost any eventuality, including no delivery, late delivery ... all the way up to a force-majeure.

    My dealer always has a convenient  stock answer to most of his internal problems. It is not us, it is Ferrari S.p.A.

     

     


    Re: My dealer pushed my 458 slot back by 1.5 years. Reasonable?

    P_Nut:

    In my case, the deposit went straight to the dealer. It will be an uphill struggle to ask for interest.

    I have signed the standard order T & C, which absolves my dealer from almost any eventuality, including no delivery, late delivery ... all the way up to a force-majeure.

    My dealer always has a convenient  stock answer to most of his internal problems. It is not us, it is Ferrari S.p.A.

     

     

     

    Too many of THEIR conditions to make me feel comfortable handing them MY money.

    I almost demand that their be an escrow account until confirmation that the build cycle for my car (which would be the purchase of components from suppliers or it's put on the physical build date) is assured.

    I don't mind leaving a deposit. But I do mind giving companies interest free loans so they can turn around and sell it to someone else if I don't like their loose confirmed delivery dates. Force Majuere events, supplier issues, factory strike ... all understandable.

    Moving my date with NO explanation after I just left you a grip of money on the table, is not.


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