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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    bluelines:

    Nor is leasing a car...

    Explain the difference to me. Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Just rent good skis, totally the same, even better since you get new ones every year and don't have to carry them... Unless you ski over 3 weeks a year, doesn't seem worth it either financially...


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    SciFrog:

    Just rent good skis, totally the same, even better since you get new ones every year and don't have to carry them... Unless you ski over 3 weeks a year, doesn't seem worth it either financially...

    Skis vary in quality and handling, if you are a good skier, you want your own. Same goes to the ski binding and boots. 

    We only rent skis when we want to try a new and improved (according to manufacturer) ski but usually, most rentals are disappointing. The kids even have difficulties handling rentals, our daughter started crying two or three years ago when we used rentals for her. She is a very good skier but that guy at the rental store was a complete idiot and the skis were way too long for her and too "fast". She got scared, she got insecure and we had trouble to bring her back down into the valley, especially since the last part of the piste was a black one with humps. No more rentals for the kids, even if this means that we had to buy them new skis every two years (they still grow...).

    My wife used to rent skis a lot when that whole new carver movement started but now she has her Atomic for two or three years and she couldn't be happier. I am using the Völkl Racetiger, very good and precise ski but since I do not really ski that fast anymore (my cruciate ligament tear hasn't been operated on but I was lucky it kind of "repaired" itself "back into place") and I switched to a ski bike for fun, it doesn't really matter anymore.

    Long story short: Most cars on the parking lot had ski racks and I do not know many people who know how to ski well and who rent skis. You want to have your own equipment.

     


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Buying ski for kids make even less sense... Not sure how you ended up with the wrong skis for your daughter, she shouldn't have jumped dramatically in size maybe? You are totally right though about being careful listening to the person who rents the skis. They insist I use 175+ skis when I much prefer 160-163 even for high speed. But you have the same issue when selecting skis when you buy them. You should try them before you buy them and that can only be done at the ski resort, so no different than trying skis to rent... I usually try several pairs per trip just for fun, and you can get different types in case it snows a lot. Unless you use esoteric items, the bindings are pretty much all the same. Having your own boots is a must. It can be hard to find ones that work for you but if you find one you must buy them and keep them 5-10 years. And with current ski technology you can buy much softer comfortable boots without compromising your abilities. Went from race boots to two buckle comfy boots with soft side (with warmers) and ski exactly the same. To put things in perspective I was an amateur ski racer in my early days... And some of my friends were too, and most of us don't own skis anymore...


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Great , this thread has finally gone of to a noce topic indecision

    Here are the skies I bought last year  . Love them !

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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Gnil:

    Great , this thread has finally gone of to a noce topic indecision

    Here are the skies I bought last year  . Love them !

    BlackCrows_Atris_184_01-bas.png

     

    They match my 918!!!! Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Porsche actually had some carvers in their program but not anymore (I think). According to a friend who used them, they weren't bad at all. Made by Völkl.

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    I had Volant skis for a year but they sucked (very comfortable but too heavy, not precise enough). Sold them for half the new price (1200 EUR or so...) on eBay. Never again.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Whoopsy:
    Gnil:

    Great , this thread has finally gone of to a noce topic indecision

    Here are the skies I bought last year  . Love them !

    BlackCrows_Atris_184_01-bas.png

     

    They match my 918!!!! Smiley


    But where do you put them? Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Rossi:
    Whoopsy:
    Gnil:

    Great , this thread has finally gone of to a noce topic indecision

    Here are the skies I bought last year  . Love them !

    BlackCrows_Atris_184_01-bas.png

     

    They match my 918!!!! Smiley


    But where do you put them? Smiley

    On the roof , where else ? Smiley

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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    See? Told you...ski rack. indecision wink


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Gnil:
    Rossi:
    Whoopsy:
    Gnil:

    Great , this thread has finally gone of to a noce topic indecision

    Here are the skies I bought last year  . Love them !

    BlackCrows_Atris_184_01-bas.png

     

    They match my 918!!!! Smiley


    But where do you put them? Smiley

    On the roof , where else ? Smiley

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    I was actually looking for that photo!!! Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Video review of M2:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA8U7a3dQNU

     

     


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Nice one


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    This guy's dd is a 997 GT3 and he's waiting for his GT4. So he's one of us and we can trust what he's saying about the M2! smiley


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Did he like it? I fell asleep after 30 seconds.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    bluelines:

    Did he like it? I fell asleep after 30 seconds.

    Yes, he did Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    WAY:

    This guy's dd is a 997 GT3 and he's waiting for his GT4. So he's one of us and we can trust what he's saying about the M2! smiley

    Yeah, Sam's a good guy even if he doesn't have the on-air charisma to keep Bluelines awake Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Only the GT4 keeps B awake, I wonder what he drives when it snows angry


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    SciFrog:

    Only the GT4 keeps B awake, I wonder what he drives when it snows angry

    His own personal skis, of course.  Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    fritz:
    SciFrog:

    Only the GT4 keeps B awake, I wonder what he drives when it snows angry

    His own personal skis, of course.  Smiley

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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Suggestion for Bluelines and snow (even works on asphalt indecision):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Ragxvt-mU


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-reviews/bmw-m2-coupe-first-drive-review-20160225-gn3o2w.html

    First drive review of M2 in Australian press. More fun to drive than M4


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    bluelines:
    fritz:
    SciFrog:

    Only the GT4 keeps B awake, I wonder what he drives when it snows angry

    His own personal skis, of course.  Smiley

    1456292843389xuJIko.gif

    He should have just rented them. Smiley Better yet, buy one of these things!  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bTZue5ibG0s


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Rode a fat bike in Zürs early February. Not easy, especially on snow and going up but pretty stable (considering the surface). It was fun!


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Note to Porsche, learn from BMW when it comes to gearing (GT4)

    BMW M2 C&D Test

    Price: $52,695 / Tested: $53,245

    Power: 365 hp @ 6500 rpm
    Torque: 369 lb-ft @ 1450 rpm
    Redline / Fuel cutoff: 7000 / 7300
    Turbocharger: BorgWarner B03
    Max Boost Pressure: 14,5 psi

    Acceleration:

    0-30: 1,8
    0-40: 2,6
    0-50: 3,4
    0-60: 4,2
    0-70: 5,5
    0-80: 6,7
    0-90: 8,1
    0-100: 10,0
    0-110: 12,1
    0-120: 14,5
    0-130: 18,0
    0-140: 22,2
    0-150: 27,0

    1/4 Mile: 12,7 @ 113 mph

    Top Speed: 164 mph (elec. limited)

    Gear Ratios (6-Speed Manual):

    1st: 4.11 / 38 mph (7300)
    2nd: 2.32 / 68 mph (7300)
    3rd: 1.54 / 102 mph (7300)
    4th: 1.18 / 134 mph (7300)
    5th: 1.00 / 157 mph (7300)
    6th: 0.85 / 164 mph (6450)

    Final Drive Ratio: 3.46:1

    Test Notes: Easy to launch. Rev to 1,200 rpm, release the clutch, and go. Hooks up well for a car with this much torque. Quick shifts into second gear include a crunch, but the M2 never failed to engage. Long cool-downs ensured that the engine remained in overboost mode.


    Braking 70 - 0 (mph)

    First Stop: 167 ft
    Shortest Stop: 159 ft
    Fade Rating: None

    Test Notes: The pedal is not overly stiff, but after a bit of travel the big brakes bite hard. At normal speeds, it's easy to brake quickly and smoothly.
    Stopping distances improved as the brakes and tires warmed up. Zero drama, even after slowing from 150 many times.


    Handling:

    Roadholding, 300-ft dia skidpad: 0.99 g
    Understeer: Minimal

    Test Notes: Clings to the skidpad tenaciously, exploiting the abundant grip is easy. Front pushes gradually and recovers immediately with a slow lift of the throttle. The rear end will start drifting if provoked by big throttle inputs. Steering feel is lacking.

    Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    Weight: 3,415 lb (1,553 kg)
    Distribution: 51.7% - 48,3%


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    BiTurbo :

    Note to Porsche, learn from BMW when it comes to gearing (GT4)

    BMW gearing is much better, but it's a more difficult job to gear a car that goes 20 mph faster...


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Also, the gearing is not as different as it appears.  If you shift a GT4 500 rpm sooner (like the fuel-cutoff of the M2), then the speeds in gear are more similar...


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Imagine the M2 ecu getting tweaked and the speed limiter deleted, say another 300 ~ 500rpm raise and it will accelerate really hard if the boost pressure doesn't drop at redline. The only downside is the weight heart

    As for the GT4 which I call Project Plug 'N' Play, they could offer a (rearranged) ratios for some extra $3k ~ $5k and still maintain the 184 mph top speed, instead of all that nonsense leather, wood, carbon, 1000 way seat adjustment and painted etc......which they continue to squeeze out of the consumers pocket with the imaginary sporty driving yet luxurious.

    A lot of unnecessary add-ons and accessories. I never touched or operated the navi system on my ex-GT2 or previous 911s, it was just the steering, tachometer, three pedals and hard shifts angry on the Cayenne, the system would shutdown automatically yes thank goodness I always carry my garmin with me in all of my DD cars.

    It's not bad luck, but bad decision from a bad designer (supplier).

     

     

     


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    RC:

    Rode a fat bike in Zürs early February. Not easy, especially on snow and going up but pretty stable (considering the surface). It was fun!

    I want one even though it's more for the beach here instead of snow. 


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Sport Auto Test - BMW M2 (DKG)

    HHR: 1.12,5

    Acceleration:

    0-100: 4,5
    0-160: 10,0
    0-180: 12,7
    0-200: 16,3

    Vmax: 270 km/h (optional)

    Slalom 18m: 71,3 km/h

    Braking:

    100-0 (C/W): 34,7 m / 33,8 m
    200-0: 132,7 m

    Weight: 1,572 kg

    Tire(s): Michelin Pilot Super Sport
     


     
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