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    Macan Facelift 2018?

    Latest rumors:

    Facelift in 2018

    Interior similar to new Panamera/Cayenne (with touch buttons, etc.)

    Hybrid version available

    Rumored small V8 very unlikely

    Slightly modified front lights 

    Rear will be "adapted" to new Cayenne (just wait and see...) and Panamera

    More to come...

     


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    If all those nuggets are the case, then aside from the space and towing capacity, why get a Cayenne?!

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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Especially if you factor in the crazy Cayenne prices...


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    rulesdontapply:

    If all those nuggets are the case, then aside from the space and towing capacity, why get a Cayenne?!

    rulesdontapply

     

    cause one can get a Cayenne with 570HP!!!!Smiley

     


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Whoopsy:
    rulesdontapply:

    If all those nuggets are the case, then aside from the space and towing capacity, why get a Cayenne?!

    rulesdontapply

     

    cause one can get a Cayenne with 570HP!!!!Smiley

     

    Age... er, horsepower is just a number! Smiley

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    RC:

    Latest rumors:

    Facelift in 2018

    Interior similar to new Panamera/Cayenne (with touch buttons, etc.)

    Hybrid version available

    Rumored small V8 very unlikely

    Slightly modified front lights 

    Rear will be "adapted" to new Cayenne (just wait and see...) and Panamera

    More to come...

     

    I am positively surprised they will introduce such a thorough facelift, if it is the case then it is outstanding.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    How are sales for the Macan? Here there are still very few on the roads.. 


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Atzporsche:

    How are sales for the Macan? Here there are still very few on the roads.. 

    Worldwide bestseller, especially since the four-cylinder was introduced beyond China, the UK and South America. If I recall correctly, it was way ahead of even the Cayenne [aging, thirstier and far more expensive next to the newer, nimbler and better-to-drive Macan] and naturally all the sports cars.

    Will be interesting to see how comprehensive this facelift will be; you have me genuinely excited, RC! May have to hold off the automotive trigger for a while to see what happens...

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    rulesdontapply:
    Whoopsy:
    rulesdontapply:

    If all those nuggets are the case, then aside from the space and towing capacity, why get a Cayenne?!

    rulesdontapply

     

    cause one can get a Cayenne with 570HP!!!!Smiley

     

    Age... er, horsepower is just a number! Smiley

    rulesdontapply

     

    Haha, give the new Macan 570HP and watch them fly off the shelf!


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    There are tons of Macans on the road, cant wait for a 500hp version...


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    rulesdontapply:

    If all those nuggets are the case, then aside from the space and towing capacity, why get a Cayenne?!

    rulesdontapply

    You said it: Space. The Macan is pretty small. It seemed like it was for people who might from time to time need to buy something kind of big. For people who regularly take lots of people/stuff/pets with them, it's just way to small to be reliable.

    For me, I couldn't fit a comfortable sized dog crate in it, let alone two, thus it offered nothing other than some luggage space that I don't need anyway.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Must be based on the new Q5 chassis so will be all new, not a face lift one should think. It would be fantastic if they put a V8 in it as the only thing wrong with the Macan Turbo is the engine sound when you are inside the car....



    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    I think that facelift Macan will not get interior from Panamera G2. The new interior we will see in Macan G2, but it is long wait as Macan G1 facelift will be coming only 2018 3rd Q.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    The Macan doesn't need a V8 and with the smaller gas tank, it should be a problem. There are already tuner mods with close to 500hp...


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Thanks,

    i am coming back to London and am very interested in a Macan.

    Are we talking MY2018 (Sept 2017 launch) or "sometime in 2018" and MY2019?

    sincerely

    JAG


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    JAG007:

    Thanks,

    i am coming back to London and am very interested in a Macan.

    Are we talking MY2018 (Sept 2017 launch) or "sometime in 2018" and MY2019?

    sincerely

    JAG

    Probably '19; the Macan debuted in November 2013 as a 2014 model and the 2017 season is pretty slammed with the Panamera Sport Turismo, Panamera Turbo S and new Cayenne coming up. I believe we'll see the facelifted Macan in Geneva in 2018 as a 2019 MY.

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    You might have something launched at the Sept Frankfurt show, I have no clue, just saying.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Whoopsy:
    rulesdontapply:

    If all those nuggets are the case, then aside from the space and towing capacity, why get a Cayenne?!

    rulesdontapply

     

    cause one can get a Cayenne with 570HP!!!!Smiley

     

    and a bit more... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    JAG007:

    Thanks,

    i am coming back to London and am very interested in a Macan.

    Are we talking MY2018 (Sept 2017 launch) or "sometime in 2018" and MY2019?

    sincerely

    JAG

    Year 2018, not sure about MY 2019 though.

    This year (end) is the year of the next Cayenne generation.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    996FourEss:

    Must be based on the new Q5 chassis so will be all new, not a face lift one should think. It would be fantastic if they put a V8 in it as the only thing wrong with the Macan Turbo is the engine sound when you are inside the car....

    I hate the bi-turbo V6 in the Macan, one of two reasons (the other one being the lack of Porsche "feel") I never warmed up to the Macan. For the very first time, my wife said this weekend that she doesn't miss the Macan Turbo at all, something very surprising because she really loved her Macan. The current Cayenne is so refined and she loves that additional "safety" and "stability" feel of the Cayenne and of course the additional luggage and interior room. Four pairs of ski, one snowboard, ski boots, etc. and three passengers (four total), she never could pull that off with the Macan.

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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    I will see the new Cayenne in the flesh next month.  Let us see what they price it as, the latest Panamera was a massive jump from the previous model.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    JAG007:

    I will see the new Cayenne in the flesh next month.  Let us see what they price it as, the latest Panamera was a massive jump from the previous model.

    How and when, pray tell? What's the plus one policy? Smiley

    Just booked a trip to Frankfurt for the IAA; hopefully the Cayenne makes its debut there and then lest this trip just be a beer-and-schnitzel fest...

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Oh dear, I had hoped to see the new Cayenne at this time.  So no new Cayenne, no new Macan!  I am very tempted to just buy a second hand S3 and an Ariel Atom or something of the kind to be honest.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    JAG007:

    I will see the new Cayenne in the flesh next month.  Let us see what they price it as, the latest Panamera was a massive jump from the previous model.

    Where? No public appearance for at least a couple of months. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    RC:
    JAG007:

    I will see the new Cayenne in the flesh next month.  Let us see what they price it as, the latest Panamera was a massive jump from the previous model.

    Where? No public appearance for at least a couple of months. Smiley

    Maybe he meant he'll see it in Geneva if he believed the Geneva Motor show was the intended debut venue? The Cayenne is definitely still a few months out. Frankfurt, RC? Or LA/Tokyo?

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    rulesdontapply:
    RC:
    JAG007:

    I will see the new Cayenne in the flesh next month.  Let us see what they price it as, the latest Panamera was a massive jump from the previous model.

    Where? No public appearance for at least a couple of months. Smiley

    Maybe he meant he'll see it in Geneva if he believed the Geneva Motor show was the intended debut venue? The Cayenne is definitely still a few months out. Frankfurt, RC? Or LA/Tokyo?

    rulesdontapply

    Frankfurt. Earliest.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    It's pretty obvious to me, that future facelift Macan TT will NOT get V8.

    Future facelift Macan TT will get new 2017 Panameras 4s engine 2.9L turbo V6, which currently is tuned in to 440 hp/ 405 lbft in 2017 Panamera 4s. The same engine will go into future facelift Cayenne S, Cayenne GTS.

    The new "small" V8 4.0L (vs previous generations V8 4.8L) will obviously go into future facelift Cayenne TT. This "small" V8 4.0L currently is tuned  to 550hp/ 567 lbft in 2017 Panamera TT.

    The only question is left, what "garbage" they will decide to put into future facelift Macan S, Macan GTS engine bay. I expect these particular models WILL suffer. In the past, they really screwed up and "downgraded engine wise" prev. gen. 2014 Panamera 4s/GTS, 2015 Cayenne S/ GTS from V8 4.8L into V6 3.6 turbo. The same tendency they continued in Boxster from V6 into V4 turbo. 

    They fool you by encreasing a little max hp figure in turbo version of a SMALLER engine (V6 turbo vs normal V8 or in Boxster the same a little higher max hp figure for V4 turbo vs normal V6). 

    Very few folks really understand, that V6 even with BIG turbo, producing more MAX hp (for example, in 2015 Cayenne S, than previous <2015 generation V8 4.8L Cayenne S) in REAL life slow speed driving range 60-120 km/h with ocasional bursts of more speed is utilizing mostly V6 in the mode WITHOUT turbos. You are driving 2015 Cayenne S in a V6 "without much turbo involvement" mode most of the time in real life scenarios of not high speeds...and V6 has LESS power reserve "on demand available", than normal V8 even with a little less MAX hp figure. For turbos really to come to life you need to speed a little MORE  and a little LONGER.

    ..they still fool you by selling a weaker power band engine, which they call more efficient/fine tuned/economical for a MUCH higher price...very soon they will reach motobike engine levels V2+big turbo or V1+even BIGGER turbo...

     

     

     


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    The Macan Turbo was fast, very fast (actually, a friend in his 500 hp Cayenne Turbo could barely get away on the Autobahn, the difference, especially in the 120 to 230 kph speed range, was quite small). Was it fun? No. Not a bit. The V6 Biturbo sucks, very unspectacular engine.


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Unfortunately I agree that there will be no V8. Pity as it would sell well in the US and China and EE / CIS. I would also gladly get one. Alternative is they try and engineer some sort of life into the 2.9 V6 (maybe they have but I have not driven the new Panamera)


     
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