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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Collecting it tomorrow:-). I got rid of my M4 for the Cayman gts so I'm curious how this fairs to both


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    I hope they don't do that to soon it'd ruin the current M2

    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    What does the CS stand for.? Not CSL??

    Edit, found this: http://jalopnik.com/new-bmw-m2-cs-with-400-horsepower-will-basically-be-an-1786921843


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Diversification is nice, but you can overdo it in my opinion.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    If they do an M2 CS in 2018 yeh fine but to do it any sooner will p*ss off current M2 owners. I could have got a GT4 for less than these 2 cars combined but i loath the idea of paying £20k over list!

    I also had a deposit on an M4GTS but that was a total balls up by bmw uk

    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    I had a test drive in an M2 today.. Nice car, I have to say. Good-sounding engine, plenty of power, amd a nice compact package. I was a little disappointed that the options list is so short though - would have been nice to spec some Recaro seats and alcantara or better quality leather. I think the only real downside is the plastic door trim etc letting down the interior a bit. Would definitely be high on my list of sensible cars..


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    I drove one too the other day, driving dynamics are very good! It's a lot of fun and very nice package. However, it's also a pretty small car. I know as a sports car this shouldn't matter but i've already got my e30.. this feels too close to it in size. But it might be called the e30 successor. 


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    That car would also be on my list as a fun DD . Only downside to me , as a DD in Switzerland, would be the lack of AWD , but I could probably live with it as it should not be as bad as in a  C63 for example 


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    +1

    A nice option for a fun DD, but the lack of AWD puts me off. 


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    I love how the M2 looks but as a fun DD over here in Bavaria (and Switzerland/Austria), I would probably choose the new RS3 or RS3 Sedan (if they ever bring this thing to the EU market). Drove the RS3 and this car is crazy fun, especially because it looks so harmless. The exhaust sound is just crazy, I still cannot believe Audi got a street legal certification for it. A worthy successor to my former Lancia Delta HF Integrale and I loved that car.


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    +1 for the RS3 too as all-year-round in this area of the world. The exhaust note is fantastic and with the ABT tuning it will overtake almost everything.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    and what about the A45 resp. GLA45?

    I drove it (GLA45) recently in Toronto and that tiny car is really a bullet IMHO.


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Don't really understand the need for AWD, if you've got decent winter tires and LSD, you should be able to use your car easily through winter. Regarding M2, the "Clubsport" (or whatever the name will be) is confirmed, with an actual M-engine (downtuned S55) with 400hp, should be a cracking car!


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Porker:

    Don't really understand the need for AWD, if you've got decent winter tires and LSD, you should be able to use your car easily through winter. Regarding M2, the "Clubsport" (or whatever the name will be) is confirmed, with an actual M-engine (downtuned S55) with 400hp, should be a cracking car!

    Ask my wife with her M3 Cab...we even put two(!) 20 kg sacks of sand into her trunk and it was still a pain in the ass.

    A bit of an inclined road and you're done without AWD. No matter how good the winter tires and LSD.

    Speaking of winters: I hate my Mini JCW in winter. Traction is horrible, even with winter tires. What a crap of car, never again.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Porker:

    Don't really understand the need for AWD, if you've got decent winter tires and LSD, you should be able to use your car easily through winter.

    If you only intend to drive around town and on flat country roads, then you don't need AWD. Throw the alps with steep inclines into the mix and you need AWD. I have passed too many RWD MB and BMW which don't make it up the ski resorts without chains. Never had an issue with AWD.

    My old 997 S with new'ish winter tires and LSD did not make it up the steep hill where we live. Neither did any other RWD car. It was not fun to slide backwards all the way down, but watching everyone else doing the same made up for it Smiley 

    AWD for me.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    I have a deposit for the M2 CS. Hopefully it is as good as i am hoping it to be! I have a RS3 and while I love the engine note and the overall drivetrain, it isn't too exciting to drive. With the M2 whenever I exit a corner the tail would threaten to come around. The RS3 has no such sensation despite the power. Heck, I find myself driving my i3 the most these days and find it more fun than the RS3!


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    I'm not convinced of the need for awd unless you spend a lot of time driving around very rural areas. Decent winter tyres and its proper locking diff should be fine for 95% of the time. My Boxster was fine (and great fun) in the snow.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    I have driven my 997 2S now through 8 winters without problems . Even if a few times I just barely made it up my driveway . With a front engine and RWD I would of have to leave the car somewhere on the street . 

    These situations are pretty rare , maybe 3 or 4 times in 8 years, so , yes, one can live with RWD if you do not go regularly to the mountains with the car .  But the few times where you get into a heavy snow storm , you are happy and relieved to have AWD .

    With my 997 4S I used to drive on the fast lane on the highway during snow storms/snow covered roads. With the 2S , I can't do that . I have no problems but I have to stick to the slow lane . 


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    DaveGordon:

    I'm not convinced of the need for awd unless you spend a lot of time driving around very rural areas. Decent winter tyres and its proper locking diff should be fine for 95% of the time. My Boxster was fine (and great fun) in the snow.

    Agree, for most situations you are fine, but it is those pesky 5% which will kill all the fun in the end Smiley

    Having said that, the difference in grip on wet asphalt between the S and 4S is quite noticeable. Flooring it in the S resulted in lost grip, instability and PSM intervention, while doing the same in the 4S meant full acceleration. If one likes to go sideways there is no question which is more fun.

     


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Gnil:

    I have driven my 997 S now through 8 winters without problems . Even if a few times I just barely made it up my driveway . With a front engine and RWD I would of have to leave the car somewhere on the street . 

    These situations are pretty rare , maybe 3 or 4 times in 8 years, so , yes, one can live with RWD if you do not go regularly to the mountains with the car .  But the few times where you get into a heavy snow storm , you are happy and relieved to have AWD .

    I believe the 911 is superior over other RWD cars in this sense, thanks to the rear weight bias. Engine in the front, regardless if it is the front or rear wheels driving, is not optimal for steep inclines.


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    The 911 is an amazing RWD car, traction isn't really an issue. I only chose the C4 GTS because my wife drives the car as well from time to time and she feels more comfortable with AWD. Also, I kind of love doing crazy stuff on wet pavement and this isn't really healthy with RWD only, at least not on public roads. angry

    Btw: Here is a nice video showing off the sound of the RS3...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGN6Fk1HfPo


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Does sound good I have to admit. Love the Alan Partridge driving gloves, too 


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    RC:

    Btw: Here is a nice video showing off the sound of the RS3...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGN6Fk1HfPo

    Here is your favourite presenter driving the 430hp ABT version Smiley

    https://youtu.be/EEi_D7SG-gE

     


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    But my favourite is this one indecision

    https://youtu.be/8sspFWy1OEg

    730hp and 920Nm angel


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    bluelines:

    But my favourite is this one indecision

    https://youtu.be/8sspFWy1OEg

    730hp and 920Nm angel

    Insane!

    I often do checkout Schmees videos and it's great content. But I'm getting sick of the "Hi guys I'm schmee" thing. About time for him to vary the intro phrase a bit Smiley


    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    Lukas:
    bluelines:

    But my favourite is this one indecision

    https://youtu.be/8sspFWy1OEg

    730hp and 920Nm angel

    Insane!

    I often do checkout Schmees videos and it's great content. But I'm getting sick of the "Hi guys I'm schmee" thing. About time for him to vary the intro phrase a bit Smiley

    A good dentist and a braces wouldn't hurt either... Smiley I know, I know but seriously...he makes money with these videos, so... Smiley


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    That doesn't make sense, one event is in Germany and the other in the UK...


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    Re: BMW M2 Rumors

    You're right. Both videos were on the same article so I thought it was the same car(at a previously event) but it turns out it isn't. My bad.

    Ignore the first video. Can't edit.


     
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