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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Great result for the GT3 RS though.  13th I think it  was.


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Final ranking:

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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    2010 Nurburgring 24-hour result...

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    Pos. –– Nr. –– Marke –– Lap –– Lap Time

    1 –– 25 –– BMW M3 GT2 –– 154 –– 12:17.344
    2 –– 43 –– Ferrari F 430 GTC –– 154 –– 9:33.019
    3 –– 97 –– Audi R8 LMS –– 153 –– 9:32.691
    4 –– 76 –– BMW Z4 GT3 –– 152 –– 10:37.803
    5 –– 102 –– Audi R8 LMS –– 152 –– 10:51.149
    6 –– 20 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 151 –– 9:27.493
    7 –– 26 –– BMW M3 GT2 –– 150 –– 10:52.452
    8 –– 18 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 150 –– 10:41.858
    9 –– 69 –– BMW Z4 GT3 –– 149 –– 10:04.650
    10 –– 35 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 148 –– 10:05.529
    11 –– 14 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 147 –– 9:51.098
    12 –– 44 –– Nissan Z 33 –– 145 –– 10:15.261
    13 –– 11 –– Porsche 911 GT3 RS –– 145 –– 9:56.683 (Chris Harris / HvS / Patrick Simon / Roland Asch)
    14 –– 33 –– Porsche GT3 Cup –– 145 –– 10:01.348
    15 –– 133 –– Audi TTS –– 144 –– 10:13.279
    16 –– 117 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 143 –– 11:21.086
    17 –– 9 –– Porsche GT3 R Hybrid –– 142 –– 8:45.243 (Bergmeister / Lietz / Holzer / Ragginger)
    18 –– 28 –– Porsche 997 Cup –– 142 –– 11:53.099
    19 –– 50 –– Lexus LF-A –– 142 –– 13:47.310
    20 –– 142 –– Opel Astra OPC –– 141 –– 11:04.473
    21 –– 88 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 141 –– 9:46.524
    22 –– 169 –– BMW Z4 Coupe –– 140 –– 14:34.092
    23 –– 141 –– Opel Astra OPC –– 140 –– 11:04.216
    24 –– 70 –– Audi RS 4 –– 140 –– 10:57.487
    25 –– 137 –– Subaru GRB –– 139 –– 10:06.699
    26 –– 96 –– BMW M3 GT4 –– 139 –– 11:44.227
    27 –– 106 –– BMW E 46 GTR –– 137 –– 13:56.987
    28 –– 61 –– Aston Martin Vantage V8 –– 137 –– 11:14.500
    29 –– 48 –– Porsche 997 –– 137 –– 11:08.376
    30 –– 42 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 137 –– 9:50.002
    31 –– 158 –– Honda S 2000 –– 136 –– 10:42.297
    32 –– 146 –– VW Golf –– 136 –– 11:40.637
    33 –– 120 –– BMW M3 GT4 –– 134 –– 10:38.765
    34 –– 37 –– Porsche 996 GT3 Cup –– 134 –– 11:04.931
    35 –– 7 –– Aston Martin Rapide –– 134 –– 14:05.952
    36 –– 184 –– Audi A3 –– 133 –– 11:16.215
    37 –– 139 –– Seat Leon Supercopa –– 132 –– 12:40.116
    38 –– 219 –– BMW E36 M3 –– 132 –– 11:43.412
    39 –– 148 –– Subaru Impreza –– 132 –– 16:35.743
    40 –– 6 –– Aston Martin V12 Vantage –– 132 –– 13:44.272 (Richard Meaden / Porritt / Mathai / Cate)
    41 –– 226 –– BMW M3 –– 131 –– 11:28.621
    42 –– 63 –– Chevrolet Corvette –– 131 –– 11:31.680
    43 –– 82 –– BMW 135 i –– 131 –– 11:43.845
    44 –– 232 –– BMW E46 M3 –– 131 –– 11:59.453
    45 –– 162 –– Opel Astra GTC –– 131 –– 11:08.708
    46 –– 180 –– BMW Z4 3.0 si –– 131 –– 13:58.997
    47 –– 59 –– Aston Martin N24 –– 130 –– 12:42.930
    48 –– 90 –– BMW M3 E46 –– 130 –– 13:57.437
    49 –– 223 –– BMW Z 85 / DU 51 –– 130 –– 11:47.581
    50 –– 183 –– Renault Clio III Cup –– 128 –– 14:01.978
    51 –– 201 –– Peugeot RC Z –– 128 –– 11:43.605
    52 –– 118 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 128 –– 9:32.410
    53 –– 213 –– BMW E 90 –– 128 –– 12:51.373
    54 –– 122 –– Volvo Heico HS3 Bioethanol –– 128 –– 13:49.709
    55 –– 151 –– Renault Clio –– 128 –– 13:54.251
    56 –– 23 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 127 –– 12:10.831
    57 –– 86 –– BMW Z4 M-Coupe –– 127 –– 10:42.029
    58 –– 87 –– Nissan 350 Z –– 127 –– 26:43.568
    59 –– 224 –– BMW E 36 M3 –– 127 –– 12:02.121
    60 –– 72 –– Lexus IS F –– 127 –– 10:35.443
    61 –– 214 –– Mercedes Benz C 230 –– 126 –– 14:10.690
    62 –– 2 –– ABT Audi R8 LMS –– 125 –– 8:47.284
    63 –– 205 –– BMW E36 318 IS –– 125 –– 14:36.264
    64 –– 218 –– BMW E87 130i –– 125 –– 13:44.866
    65 –– 237 –– BMW M3 –– 125 –– 10:58.721
    66 –– 125 –– Audi TTS –– 125 –– 12:11.127
    67 –– 211 –– BMW 320 iS –– 125 –– 11:14.665
    68 –– 167 –– Renault Clio Cup –– 125 –– 12:27.391
    69 –– 175 –– Alfa Romeo 147 JTD –– 125 –– 11:42.839
    70 –– 164 –– Renault Clio RS III –– 125 –– 12:03.041
    71 –– 113 –– BMW 130 i –– 125 –– 11:31.319
    72 –– 236 –– Porsche Cayman S –– 125 –– 12:42.904
    73 –– 126 –– Ford Mondeo –– 125 –– 13:03.178
    74 –– 116 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 124 –– 12:09.000
    75 –– 235 –– BMW M3 E46 –– 124 –– 13:46.484
    76 –– 212 –– BMW 325 i –– 123 –– 13:16.658
    77 –– 233 –– Mercedes Benz SLK 350 –– 123 –– 11:40.768
    78 –– 80 –– BMW 330 i –– 123 –– 13:17.555
    79 –– 206 –– BMW 318 iS –– 123 –– 14:19.905
    80 –– 40 –– Porsche 997 RSR –– 122 –– 9:28.976
    81 –– 60 –– Aston Martin Vantage V8 –– 122 –– 11:23.215
    82 –– 200 –– Peugeot RC Z –– 122 –– 11:44.184
    83 –– 119 –– Seat Supercopa –– 121 –– 12:08.039
    84 –– 135 –– Audi A3 –– 121 –– 10:00.571
    85 –– 244 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 10:57.731
    86 –– 243 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 10:59.547
    87 –– 74 –– Aston Martin N24 –– 120 –– 40:42.843
    88 –– 41 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 120 –– 11:43.873
    89 –– 155 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 13:50.246
    90 –– 215 –– BMW 325 i E90 –– 119 –– 13:29.300
    91 –– 193 –– BMW 330d –– 119 –– 11:57.759
    92 –– 246 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 119 –– 11:11.073
    93 –– 220 –– BMW Z4 Coupe –– 118 –– 1:28:03.022
    94 –– 225 –– BMW E36 M3 –– 118 –– 12:31.904
    95 –– 49 –– Audi R8 –– 117 –– 13:14.171
    96 –– 85 –– Porsche 911 –– 116 –– 9:39.399
    97 –– 153 –– VW Golf III Kitcar –– 115 –– 12:50.687
    98 –– 176 –– BMW 120 d –– 115 –– 14:33.735
    99 –– 127 –– Ford Focus ST –– 114 –– 13:48.782
    100 –– 129 –– BMW 325 i E92 –– 114 –– 11:56.635

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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    ResB:

    Great result for the GT3 RS though.  13th I think it  was.

    That's the car co-driven by Chris Harris. Is it a standard road legal GT3 RS?


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Here is a VERY interesting article.

    www.autoweek.com/article/20100516/ALMS/100519896

    So it looks like it was engine failure that brought the Hybrid to a stop.

    This is really not good!

     


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Spyderidol:

    Here is a VERY interesting article.

    www.autoweek.com/article/20100516/ALMS/100519896

    So it looks like it was engine failure that brought the Hybrid to a stop.

    This is really not good!

     

    unless he uses the "blown engine" term in a very general and wide sense Smiley


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    reginos:
    ResB:

    Great result for the GT3 RS though.  13th I think it  was.

    That's the car co-driven by Chris Harris. Is it a standard road legal GT3 RS?


    Yes, the car is pretty much as you can buy it, other than a special seat (required by FIA), a 20l additional fuel tank and 18" wheels with slicks. PASM remained as far as I know and they were using the steel brake as PCCB would not be allowed.

    They drove the car on street tires from Stuttgart to the Nürburgring. It even had its license plates on during the race.

    Unbelievable result somewhat aided by the failure of faster cars. The drivers said that car was very comfortable to drive.


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    reginos:
    Spyderidol:

    Here is a VERY interesting article.

    www.autoweek.com/article/20100516/ALMS/100519896

    So it looks like it was engine failure that brought the Hybrid to a stop.

    This is really not good!

     

    unless he uses the "blown engine" term in a very general and wide sense Smiley

    No,  I have heard that it was engine from other sources too.

    We will soon find out when Porsche publishes their PR.


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Confirmation:

    After 22 hours and 15 minutes, the leading orange-and-white 911 GT3 R Hybrid retired with engine damage in the Metzgesfeld passage. “I heard a loud noise at the rear of the car and suddenly the power went,” says Porsche works driver Joerg Bergmeister (Germany) describing the abrupt end of all hopes for victory.

    Despite a disappointing race, Chairman of the Board at Porsche AG, Michael Macht, who visited the race on Sunday, came to a positive conclusion: “It wasn’t enough for a win, but the Porsche hybrid technology clearly proved its potential at one of the world’s toughest races. We will continue developing this innovative drive concept. That was certainly not the last race for a Porsche hybrid car.”

    Wolfgang Dürheimer, Board Member for Research and Development at Porsche AG, gives an outlook to the future: “The 911 GT3 R Hybrid has proven that highest performance and a unique efficiency don’t exclude each other. The vehicle shows the technological path to racing in the future.” - Porsche


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Thank you, always informed


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    In this year´s race a significant amount of competitors have suffered from mechanical failures and accidents, especially those numerous GT3s that have usually been sure contenders for the podium. I applaud Porsche for making the entry for the Hybrid and have been confirmed by the car´s competitiveness.

    BMW even repaired the 2nd M3 that crashed during the race and finished on 7th place. Aston Martin finished remarkably well with both the Vantage and Rapide which should certainly boost their reputation. Audi, providing a huge number of potential winners, faired comparatively weak with only two R8 LMS on third and fifth position.

    Isn´t it ironic that both Hybrid entries so far, the Gumpert Apollo and the GT3 Hybrid, suffered from failures of the proven combustion engine drivetrain? The former suffered from repeated transmission failures, the later from a blown engine that happens rather seldom on the GT3. In both cases, the electrical drivetrains worked without any flaws.


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    One last thing: It's good to see that Michael Macht actually went to the race!


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Spyderidol:

    One last thing: It's good to see that Michael Macht actually went to the race!

    The politics are interesting........ the best placed Porsche in 6th powered by RS Tuning didn't even get a visit let alone a well done from anyone official at Porsche apparently......Smiley


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

     Sometimes you have to wander what goes through those executive's minds!1274118029479scratchchin.gif


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Spyderidol:

     Sometimes you have to wander what goes through those executive's minds!1274118029479scratchchin.gif

    The politics is intriguing, I'd love to know more, from a purely voyeuristic perspective Smiley


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Spyderidol:

     Sometimes you have to wander what goes through those executive's minds!1274118029479scratchchin.gif

    Porsche AG are officially and openly totally against Tuners. So the Corporate Rules dictated this distance.


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

     Yes, I thought this might be behind this behavior. One on hand it is understandable, on the other they are a client. Also - I know some tuners that have quite a "good" relationship with Porsche.


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    reginos:
    Spyderidol:

     Sometimes you have to wander what goes through those executive's minds!1274118029479scratchchin.gif

    Porsche AG are officially and openly totally against Tuners. So the Corporate Rules dictated this distance.

    Are Manthey not also a "tuner" ?


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    TB993tt:
    reginos:
    Spyderidol:

     Sometimes you have to wander what goes through those executive's minds!1274118029479scratchchin.gif

    Porsche AG are officially and openly totally against Tuners. So the Corporate Rules dictated this distance.

    Are Manthey not also a "tuner" ?

    There is Manthey Racing the NBR team and Manthey Motors the tuner.

    Perhaps, Porsche use this distinction to do an ostrich given the success of the racing team in the last few years.


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Can we get the Chassis number of the GT3 RS so that we can help PJ out and make sure he doesn't buy it at some point in the future.


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    2010 Nurburgring 24-hour – Chris Harris comments...

    “CHRIS HARRIS: REFLECTING ON THE N24 - THE GT3 RS'S FINEST HOUR”

    (18 May 2010)

    Not having ever taken Acid, I’m not quite sure if my current state-of-mind can be likened to coming down from a trip, but it must be close.

    I’m at that junction where Euphoria subsides and the blues begin. There’s now a void where last week an all-consuming project controlled everything.

    That’s the strange thing about motorsport: it’s so tightly contained - both temporally and geographically – and the sport itself is so ubiquitous that today’s victory is, for anyone not directly connected with it, yesterday’s vague memory.

    I went to the paddock yesterday morning to collect something and it was already mostly deserted. For someone who never wanted Sunday 16th May 2010 to end, it looked too bare; too empty. Twelve hours earlier it was the centre of my universe; swollen, spilling-over with people and machinery. It’s the most exciting paddock in the world – as befits the best race in the world.

    Of course you’re going to get a sizeable story in EVO soon, and a video too, so now isn’t the time to drop into minute detail of the event. But I’m just here wondering if my understanding of motorsport might just have altered over the past week.

    A few hours before we crossed the line in the Eiffel, Mark Webber won the Monaco Grand Prix – and he deserved the victory. But he did it in a machine that doesn’t look like a car, in a team whose real business is energy drinks, powered by an engine made by a French car company whose everyday wares couldn’t be further removed from Formula One.

    Manufacturer Motorsport exists to sell cars – whether by increased exposure or engineering development – and I’m still not convinced, for example, that Mercedes sells any more cars because it is entered into the F1 championship.

    Perhaps Porsche won’t sell any more 911s on the back of this past weekend – who knows? But as a demonstration of what works racing should be about - race on Sunday; sell on Monday – it was stunning. More meaningful for me as a car enthusiast than the strange world of double-diffusers, or using the back of your left hand to cover a vent that stalls a rear wing. Perhaps Fduct is actually a metaphor for the state of the sport?

    Porsche drove a street car to the world’s toughest race, vastly exceeded any expectations over 150 hard laps of the Nordschleife, and then drove it home again.

    It was many things to many people: special, notable, interesting, emotional, testing and, at times, scary. But most of all, it was tangible.

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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    So few words to express so many different thoughts and emotions

    I think that Chris Harris is becoming my hero


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Awesome piece of text, love his insight...


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Looking forward to the EVO article.  However, still no WR and HVS lap time comparison.


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    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Please take this with a pinch of salt....but if its trueHappyDance.gif

    www.autoblog.com/2010/05/20/report-porsche-918-spyder-to-contest-2011-nurburgring-24/


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    Rules will allow it


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

     It seems so - Under class EXP - Hybrid I suppose.


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

    I was not talking about the Hybrid part.  Carbon fiber chassis are allowed Thanks for reply.


    Re: Walter Röhrl competes in the Nürburgring 24 Hour Race - GT3RS (Chris Harris)

     I think that because of it's innovative hybrid technology , it will be allowed to race. 

    Anyway , as I said before, we need to take this with a pinch of salt.

     

    Now check this out:

    www.autoweek.com/article/20100519/ALMS/100519838


     
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