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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Cool vid. kiss But the car design don't mirrors really my taste Smiley


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    Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016) BMW 740xDrive (2016)

     

     


     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    The only negative about the R8 V10 Plus and the Huracan is to look at them and know that their glorious sounding, razor edge response NA engines are the end of a era... and know that whats coming next will likely seem synthetic by comparison.


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Conny997:

    Cool vid. kiss But the car design don't mirrors really my taste Smiley

    Agreed. I only like the red painted engine and the red painted calipers but everything else is...how to put it...a matter of taste. I'm not a Final Fantasy fan, so I'm probably not the target customer for this car. In Japan, it costs 431k EUR. Ouch. 


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    JimFlat6:

    The only negative about the R8 V10 Plus and the Huracan is to look at them and know that their glorious sounding, razor edge response NA engines are the end of a era... and know that whats coming next will likely seem synthetic by comparison.

    I think you're right. But this seems to be the development of almost everything sometimes including our wifes angryindecision


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    Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016) BMW 740xDrive (2016)

     


     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Conny997:
    JimFlat6:

    The only negative about the R8 V10 Plus and the Huracan is to look at them and know that their glorious sounding, razor edge response NA engines are the end of a era... and know that whats coming next will likely seem synthetic by comparison.

    I think you're right. But this seems to be the development of almost everything sometimes including our wifes angryindecision

    Smiley Smiley

     


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC:
    Conny997:
    JimFlat6:

    The only negative about the R8 V10 Plus and the Huracan is to look at them and know that their glorious sounding, razor edge response NA engines are the end of a era... and know that whats coming next will likely seem synthetic by comparison.

    I think you're right. But this seems to be the development of almost everything sometimes including our wifes angryindecision

    Smiley Smiley

    Smiley


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Another fun fact regarding the Dynamic Steering of the R8 V10 Plus: As you know, reviewers weren't really on the same page when it came to the Dynamic Steering of the car. Some loved it, others hated it. I love it.

    Well, it seems that when you drive in Performance mode (not Dynamic mode, which I drive in most of the time, basically the same as Sport mode in Porsche models), the Dynamic Steering sticks to a 13:1 fixed ratio, there is nothing dynamic about it anymore. So when drivers complained about it, it seems that either they were driving it in a fixed ratio they didn't like or they drove it with a variable ratio they didn't like...or did like or whatever. It is just weird that none of the reviewers actually mentioned this fact (with the fixed ratio).


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC with more R8 excuses :)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    noone1:

    RC with more R8 excuses :)

    Eey, those are fun facts! Smiley Things you never dared or cared to ask about the R8. 


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    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC:

    Another fun fact regarding the Dynamic Steering of the R8 V10 Plus: As you know, reviewers weren't really on the same page when it came to the Dynamic Steering of the car. Some loved it, others hated it. I love it.

    Well, it seems that when you drive in Performance mode (not Dynamic mode, which I drive in most of the time, basically the same as Sport mode in Porsche models), the Dynamic Steering sticks to a 13:1 fixed ratio, there is nothing dynamic about it anymore. So when drivers complained about it, it seems that either they were driving it in a fixed ratio they didn't like or they drove it with a variable ratio they didn't like...or did like or whatever. It is just weird that none of the reviewers actually mentioned this fact (with the fixed ratio).

    ..and you couldn't understand why Chris Harris found the whole thing confounding.. indecision


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    bluelines:
    noone1:

    RC with more R8 excuses :)

    Eey, those are fun facts! Smiley Things you never dared or cared to ask about the R8. 

    Hm, somehow I know this phrase. Smiley


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Rossi:
    bluelines:
    noone1:

    RC with more R8 excuses :)

    Eey, those are fun facts! Smiley Things you never dared or cared to ask about the R8. 

    Hm, somehow I know this phrase. Smiley

    Masterminds think alike Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    noone1:

    RC with more R8 excuses :)

    C'mon guys why you're ranting about R8 details? Isn't this a R8 threat 

    In my opinion it's quite valuable that Rennteam provides detailed insights from real owners. 


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Conny997:

    C'mon guys why you're ranting about R8 details? Isn't this a R8 threat 

    *drumroll*

    Every thread is an R8 thread. This one just happens to have R8 in the title Smiley

    Having said that, the rant was about RC, not the R8. Noone started it. I blame him. Smiley

    (WARNING! You have experienced an episode of sarcasm and might feel dazed and confused. Fear not, it was well intended and not meant to be rude.)

    Smiley

     


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Conny997:
    noone1:

    RC with more R8 excuses :)

    C'mon guys why you're ranting about R8 details? Isn't this a R8 threat 

    In my opinion it's quite valuable that Rennteam provides detailed insights from real owners. 

    In this case and this thread (and only this thread Smiley) it is very appropriate and I find it also very valuable.

    But I don´t understand why it is a R8 threat Smiley to whom the R8 is threating Smiley

     


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    ALDO:
    Conny997:
    noone1:

    RC with more R8 excuses :)

    C'mon guys why you're ranting about R8 details? Isn't this a R8 threat 

    In my opinion it's quite valuable that Rennteam provides detailed insights from real owners. 

    In this case and this thread (and only this thread Smiley) it is very appropriate and I find it also very valuable.

    But I don´t understand why it is a R8 threat Smiley to whom the R8 is threating Smiley

     


    Each and every Rennteamer. Smiley


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    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    ALDO:
    Conny997:
    noone1:

    RC with more R8 excuses :)

    C'mon guys why you're ranting about R8 details? Isn't this a R8 threat 

    In my opinion it's quite valuable that Rennteam provides detailed insights from real owners. 

    In this case and this thread (and only this thread Smiley) it is very appropriate and I find it also very valuable.

    But I don´t understand why it is a R8 threat Smiley to whom the R8 is threating Smiley

     

    To McLaren and GT4 drivers...apparently. Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    can we get this thread locked for being on topic? Please?

     


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Whoopsy:

    can we get this thread locked for being on topic? Please?

     

    Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    The biggest Audi Dealer in my area has 12 ! barely used R8 V10 Plus standing around. 11 are driving experience cars. Most have a list price of 229k reduced to 161-167k 1500-1800km.

    These cars are standing for 3 months now and not a single one has been sold.
    The DE cars look a bit too flashy in my view (white with red blades and grey with yellow blades). People seems to know that they are DE cars and dont want to buy them. I also would not like to buy a DE car.

    One of the cars is not a DE car. Reduced from 221k to 158k but unattractive exterior/interior color. Dark gray outside with brown interior. More a color combination for a A8 or Bentley, but not for a car like the R8.


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Yes, the 24h Experience cars flood the used car pools of the dealers, which in my opinion isn't a good thing.

    Btw: None of the 24h experience cars is over 215k MSRP but what is worse about them: They were built in summer/autumn 2015(!) but potential customers aren't aware of it because of the low mileage and the first registration which is mostly in 2016(!). 90% of the used R8 in Germany are 24h experience cars.

    I was lucky to find a used car which was an April 2016 build but even my car has been used on the track by the general manager of the dealership (I know him from his past at Porsche). I still trust him more than various strangers driving the 24h experience cars at the limit and this was also the reason I got the good deal I got.

    Most cars have a five years warranty though, so if someone wants an inexpensive super sportscar, these cars are actually a good offer. My car has 10500 km now, over 8000 driven by me and no real issues.

    I still wouldn't buy one in Germany (just lease) because Audi kind of ruins the used car value with those many 24h experience cars. They should be gone by next summer though.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    R8 underperforming(in my opinion) @ The Grand Tour test track. AWD should help on that crappy tarmac.

    Grand Tour Eboladrome lap times

    Rank Vehicle Driver Time PS / KG
    1. McLaren 650 S Mike Skinner 1:17.90 650 / 1428
    2. Audi R8 V10 Plus (Mk II) Mike Skinner 1:19.20 610 / 1454
    3. Nissan GT-R (R35 565PS) Mike Skinner 1:21.20 570 / 1769
    4. Porsche 911 Carrera S Mike Skinner 1:21.40 420 / 1440
    5. Porsche 718 Boxster S Mike Skinner 1:23.40 350 / 1355
    6. BMW M5 (F10) Mike Skinner 1:24.20 560 / 1870
    7. BMW M3 (F80) Mike Skinner 1:24.30 431 / 1520
    8. BMW M2 (F87) Mike Skinner 1:26.20 375 / -
    9. Honda Civic Type R (FK2) Mike Skinner 1:28.20 310 / 1382
    10. Ford Fiesta ST200 Mike Skinner 1:32.80 200 / 1187

     

    Stubborn Ferrari denied The Grand Tour from timming their 488GTB lap time SmileySmiley

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    acky:

    The biggest Audi Dealer in my area has 12 ! barely used R8 V10 Plus standing around. 11 are driving experience cars. Most have a list price of 229k reduced to 161-167k 1500-1800km.

    These cars are standing for 3 months now and not a single one has been sold.
    The DE cars look a bit too flashy in my view (white with red blades and grey with yellow blades). People seems to know that they are DE cars and dont want to buy them. I also would not like to buy a DE car.

    One of the cars is not a DE car. Reduced from 221k to 158k but unattractive exterior/interior color. Dark gray outside with brown interior. More a color combination for a A8 or Bentley, but not for a car like the R8.

    Blades can probably be change for a couple grand.

    I'd definitely buy one of these cars. Barely used, tons of warranty remaining.

    What's the website of your dealer with all the cars?


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    noone1:
    acky:

    The biggest Audi Dealer in my area has 12 ! barely used R8 V10 Plus standing around. 11 are driving experience cars. Most have a list price of 229k reduced to 161-167k 1500-1800km.

    These cars are standing for 3 months now and not a single one has been sold.
    The DE cars look a bit too flashy in my view (white with red blades and grey with yellow blades). People seems to know that they are DE cars and dont want to buy them. I also would not like to buy a DE car.

    One of the cars is not a DE car. Reduced from 221k to 158k but unattractive exterior/interior color. Dark gray outside with brown interior. More a color combination for a A8 or Bentley, but not for a car like the R8.

    Blades can probably be change for a couple grand.

    I'd definitely buy one of these cars. Barely used, tons of warranty remaining.

    What's the website of your dealer with all the cars?

    You just need to check the German Audi website (used cars) and you find tons of used (2nd gen) R8 V10 Plus, starting at around 140k EUR or so...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Topspeed:

    R8 underperforming(in my opinion) @ The Grand Tour test track. AWD should help on that crappy tarmac.

    Grand Tour Eboladrome lap times

    Rank Vehicle Driver Time PS / KG
    1. McLaren 650 S Mike Skinner 1:17.90 650 / 1428
    2. Audi R8 V10 Plus (Mk II) Mike Skinner 1:19.20 610 / 1454
    3. Nissan GT-R (R35 565PS) Mike Skinner 1:21.20 570 / 1769
    4. Porsche 911 Carrera S Mike Skinner 1:21.40 420 / 1440
    5. Porsche 718 Boxster S Mike Skinner 1:23.40 350 / 1355
    6. BMW M5 (F10) Mike Skinner 1:24.20 560 / 1870
    7. BMW M3 (F80) Mike Skinner 1:24.30 431 / 1520
    8. BMW M2 (F87) Mike Skinner 1:26.20 375 / -
    9. Honda Civic Type R (FK2) Mike Skinner 1:28.20 310 / 1382
    10. Ford Fiesta ST200 Mike Skinner 1:32.80 200 / 1187

     

    Stubborn Ferrari denied The Grand Tour from timming their 488GTB lap time SmileySmiley

     

    Depends what tires the car had and in what driving program the driver was driving in (apparently the differences can be dramatic). I still think the time is OK though, the 650S is definitely a bit faster on the track, especially on semi-slicks (even if the Audi would be on Cup 2).


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    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    http://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/life-top-gears-audi-r8-v10-plus-update-four#1

    (long term review, pretty interesting)

    From the review: "Just to give you some history, this time last year I tested the McLaren 570S in Portugal against the Audi R8 and Porsche 911 Turbo. I gave the win to the 570S because it was the best to drive. And it still is. But this demonstrates the trouble with road testing as opposed to living with a car for an extended period, and that’s what the 570GT helped me with this time round. Because if I was presented with a straight choice between the two, I’d have the R8."

    More: " Ultimately the McLaren is as fast, but it can’t hold a candle to the noise, response and sheer visceral thrill of the Audi’s V10. It’s the one thing I relish every single day. And it’s so usable because of the R8’s traction, stability and short gearing. Motorway on-ramps, quick squirts off roundabouts, the opportunities to indulge the V10 are always there.

    Even slow burbles away from traffic lights take on another dimension in the R8 – it sounds great, the gearbox is peerless and there’s a curious satisfaction in feeling it shuffle up to sixth at 27mph.

    And it’s not just the engine. The calm ride, the cabin design, the B&O sound system, the impressively tight turning circle, the seats, the humming smoothness of the thing, the sense it’ll never go wrong, the vast speed it’s capable of, the hard-charger that lurks a couple of button presses away…

    They all contribute to making the R8 at once super undemanding and yet massively exciting. It hits a broader spectrum than any rival, whether it’s McLaren 570, Porsche 911 Turbo, Mercedes AMG GT or Nissan GT-R."


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    RC:

    http://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/life-top-gears-audi-r8-v10-plus-update-four#1

    (long term review, pretty interesting)

    From the review: "Just to give you some history, this time last year I tested the McLaren 570S in Portugal against the Audi R8 and Porsche 911 Turbo. I gave the win to the 570S because it was the best to drive. And it still is. But this demonstrates the trouble with road testing as opposed to living with a car for an extended period, and that’s what the 570GT helped me with this time round. Because if I was presented with a straight choice between the two, I’d have the R8."

    More: " Ultimately the McLaren is as fast, but it can’t hold a candle to the noise, response and sheer visceral thrill of the Audi’s V10. It’s the one thing I relish every single day. And it’s so usable because of the R8’s traction, stability and short gearing. Motorway on-ramps, quick squirts off roundabouts, the opportunities to indulge the V10 are always there.

    Even slow burbles away from traffic lights take on another dimension in the R8 – it sounds great, the gearbox is peerless and there’s a curious satisfaction in feeling it shuffle up to sixth at 27mph.

    And it’s not just the engine. The calm ride, the cabin design, the B&O sound system, the impressively tight turning circle, the seats, the humming smoothness of the thing, the sense it’ll never go wrong, the vast speed it’s capable of, the hard-charger that lurks a couple of button presses away…

    They all contribute to making the R8 at once super undemanding and yet massively exciting. It hits a broader spectrum than any rival, whether it’s McLaren 570, Porsche 911 Turbo, Mercedes AMG GT or Nissan GT-R."


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     

    Your updates on the R8 have convinced me to move away from my long awaited Acura NSX to a new R8.  Even with a special order, I will have my Audi, well before I hear a whimper from Honda.  Looking forward to the return to Audi.

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLinrZEyRU

    "The results were made official at the completion of Lap 4, at which point Vanthoor was still leading. Bamber’s five-second penalty resulted in him finishing fourth. " Smiley

     


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    Hahaha. That's hilarious that he won the race like that.

    Is it just me, or did that Porsche look like it came within inches of the rear end of the Audi when it passed?


    Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

    noone1:

    Hahaha. That's hilarious that he won the race like that.

    Is it just me, or did that Porsche look like it came within inches of the rear end of the Audi when it passed?

    Yeah. That was incredible close. Racecar driver skills Smiley


     
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