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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    BONES:

    Nice write up on McLaren:

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/mclaren-automotive-remarkable-rise-ferrari-rival

     

    McLaren was able to rise because Porsche, Ferrari and Co. let them... Just dumb. Smiley 


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    you should go to Woking once for a visit - it will change yr mind.....


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    BjoernB:

    you should go to Woking once for a visit - it will change yr mind.....

    I assume you misunderstood my post? Smiley

    Going to McLaren? You'd be surprised. Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    In my experience, McLaren employees and managers at McLaren Technology Centre in Woking are notably respectful of Porsche cars and particularly keen on the GT and RS models... Smiley

    McLaren also have an old 911 of their own with a TAG F1 engine... Smiley

    ...it seems they know where to look for good benchmarks! Smiley


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    McLaren seems to listen to customers, Porsche is looking mostly for high gain margins (which isn't the fault of many enthusiastic Porsche employees who probably would want to do more and better).

    McLaren is where they are because Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferrari allowed them to get there.


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    What are the specs on that F1 motor ???


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    McLaren Speedtail (previously codenamed BP23)

     

    McLaren Speedtail Will Be A Road-Going F1 Car With Hybrid Power

     

     


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF4pYs4aPw

    12:15 "Oh, it's a McLaren. Engine System Fault"


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeFwbQu-s_E

    ---------------------McLaren 720S: 1:41.65
    -----------Huracán Performante: 1:42.49
    -------------Porsche 918 Spyder: 1:42.63
    ---------------------McLaren 675LT: 1:44.04
    ---------------------Ferrari 488 GTB: 1:44.28
    Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4: 1:45.06
    ----Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7): 1:45.44
    ----------------------McLaren 650 S: 1:46.16
    ----------Porsche 911(991.2) GT3: 1:46.82
    -----------------------McLaren 570S: 1:47.13
    -------Mercedes-Benz AMG GT R: 1:47.27


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Considering the weight and power figures, this makes the Huracan Performante look even more impressive. 😉


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    RC:

    Considering the weight and power figures, this makes the Huracan Performante look even more impressive. 😉

    I agree. Less than 1 second difference in a 1:40 laptime. Heavier, less powerful, NA engine and no carbon tub. Smiley

    Unless they used super sticky tyres Smiley


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    Seriously funny indecision


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Nice review of the Senna out in the real world.

    Estoril to Monaco in the wild McLaren Senna

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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Guess who's car this is ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJniZWTNs0

    CESAR on the prowl.....rooooaaaahhhhh Smiley


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    Italo:

    Guess who's car this is ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJniZWTNs0

    CESAR on the prowl.....rooooaaaahhhhh Smiley

    Smiley Francois is busy keeping those YouTubers happy. Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Even with McLaren F1 content, I can't stand to watch these vids. They just fill 13mins with empty rambling. 


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    Porker:

    Even with McLaren F1 content, I can't stand to watch these vids. They just fill 13mins with empty rambling. 

    Most of these channels start out great and then slowly turn into 10+ minute nothingness just to cash in on advertisers. Seeing the F1 in the wild was nice though. 


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    Had a free track day with McLaren today.  They let me drive my GT3 as well as a 650S.  Lots of fun and impressive cars!

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    Looks like fun. I hope you let the Maccas keep up with you   indecision


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    DJM48:

    Looks like fun. I hope you let the Maccas keep up with you   indecision

    I actually held my own pretty well and the McLaren owners were super courteous.  But there was one Hurucan that was not well nor courteously driven.

    At altitude, the 650S has way more thrust than my car- made me reevaluate the notion of a Turbo 992 GT3 Smiley


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Did it make you want to swap for a McLaren ?


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    How's the driving feel in the McL compared to your GT3 ?


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Up here at altitude, the power and torque is much bigger in the Macca and that is pretty addictive feeling.  Maybe it would lose its explosive feeling after one gets used to it.  

    Certainly too much to sample on the roads around here - glad they offered a try on the track.

    It is a smaller track than my usual one and they had to add a chicane, since the cars were getting airborne before that angel


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Gnil:

    Did it make you want to swap for a McLaren ?

    I can’t afford to trade my car for a 600LT (the model most attractive to me), but it made me think that if the next GT3 is a turbocharged Motorsport engine, I could be very interested in that.  If it has 550hp, it will feel Much faster than NA 500hp, due to nearly 20% loss up here...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Gauss:

    How's the driving feel in the McL compared to your GT3 ?

    It was a short test drive, but I felt that the brake feel was much worse than GT3, but steering and handling were very nice (car turns in very well and it is very stable for a mid-engined car - didn’t snap when getting the rear tires loose).

    But most vivid impression came from the engine.


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Grant:
    Gnil:

    Did it make you want to swap for a McLaren ?

    I can’t afford to trade my car for a 600LT (the model most attractive to me), but it made me think that if the next GT3 is a turbocharged Motorsport engine, I could be very interested in that.  If it has 550hp, it will feel Much faster than NA 500hp, due to nearly 20% loss up here...

    There is a big chance it will be ....... and as always, it they do it , after the first complaints , most people will love it 


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Novitec 720S





























    Thanks to these additions, the engine develops 795 hp (592 kW / 806 PS) and 647 lb-ft (878 Nm) of torque. In this configuration, the car will accelerate from 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h) in 2.7 seconds and 0-124 mph (0-200 km/h) in 7.5 seconds.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8FlcRJaxNk

     


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    It def sounds much better!


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oopVGfA6vOQ

    kiss


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Funny I was sitting parked up on a residential road in my 720S waiting to pick up a child from school with the engine idling so I could have A/C and the radio on (the radio shuts off very quickly with engine off due to the Li battery) a guy came out of his house across the road and asked me to turn the car off as the noise was disturbing him working angel

    What is slightly worrying is that my car has a valved stock non sport exhaust which I "thought" was really quiet and I'm installing this next week, I think/hope maybe the guy had other issues devil


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    2018 McLaren 720S 

    993 Turbo, 2006 built 3.8, 577PS/797NM, 1440kg DIN sold to a worthy enthusiast.


     
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