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    AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    First test of the new Cayenne.

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    Porsche Cayenne S

    • Engine: V8, 400 hp, 500 Nm
    • Gearbox: 8-speed-automatic
    • Tyres: Goodyear Eagle F1
    • Weight: 2225 kg
    • Top speed: 258 km/h
    • 0-100 km/h in 6,2 s (factory's claim: 5,9 s)
    • 0-160 km/h in 14,3 s (factory's claim: 13,9 s)
    • 0-200 km/h in 23,9 s
    • 400 metres: 14,3 s (160 km/h)
    • 18 m slalom: 62,2 km/h
    • 110 m evasive test: 126,1 km/h
    • Braking (100-0 km/h): 37,5 m/36,4 m (cold/warm)
    • Fuel consumption: 15,3 l/100 km (average)
    • Basic price: €86.645,- (inc. ceramic brakes, PASM, 19-inch-wheels)
    • Price as tested: €122.559,-

    A few notes from the article:

    • Roomy interior with high quality. The seats are very comfortable.
    • Great handling (from an SUV), but the air suspension is too hard.
    • The steering is exact and precise.
    • The engine is very flexible and it loves to rev, too.
    • The new 8-speed-automatic is great, it shifts smoothly and nearly as fast as a PDK!
    • Ceramic brakes are great.

    Final rating: 5/5 stars.

    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    This car costs as much as my BMW X5 M (before the 21% rebate I received).

    Now let me see: my X5 M, according to Auto Zeitung, does 0-100 kph in 4.6 seconds (Cayenne in 6.2 seconds) and 0-200 kph in 16.3 seconds (Cayenne  23.9 seconds).

    For the same money ?  Porsche (and apparently some customers too) needs a reality check. Badly. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    Maybe not. For the same price you would get the Porsche. So the P car will always have a premium...


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    Well, not everybody needs stratospheric performance. Lucky you Germans that have the freedom to go fast!


    --

    997 GT3 RS


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    Scans


     


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    SciFrog:

    Maybe not. For the same price you would get the Porsche. So the P car will always have a premium...

     +1

    Don't think many people care about acceleration figures when choosing an SUV. 


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    SciFrog:

    Maybe not. For the same price you would get the Porsche. So the P car will always have a premium...

     

    You get 21% rebate at your Porsche dealer ? Please send me his contact address. Smiley

    I paid for an almost fully optioned X5 M exactly 99500 EUR. The tested Cayenne S costs 122000 EUR. Even with a huge rebate, there remains a 10000 EUR gap between the two cars/trucks, not to mention the huge performance gap.

    It seems that you guys never wondered why a Porsche buff like me who owned two Cayenne before, switched to a BMW. There was/is a reason for that.

    If people don't care about performance on a SUV, I wonder why they don't buy the cheapest Cayenne only. Why do people buy a Cayenne Turbo or a Range Rover Sport Supercharged? Why do people buy a Mercedes ML63 AMG?

    Those who claim this, probably never were really interested in a SUV. Smiley

    I may return to Porsche with the Cayenne Turbo S but til then...no way I'm paying a premium for...nothing. Sorry.


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    I think value wise, it's very hard to get past our X5M RC.

    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

     RC they are both overpriced. As the economy worsens expect great deals!!!


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    nina:

     RC they are both overpriced. As the economy worsens expect great deals!!!

     

    Martha, you word in god's ear but I already got the deal of my life with the X5 M. In my town, it is a town with over 350000 people, I own the only X5 M. Unbelievable. Smiley

    I just hope to get a similar deal on a Cayenne Turbo S (new model) sometime in the future when this model is going to be available. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    RC, I certainly don't argue that the X5M is superior in performance to the Cayenne S, or that it is the right car for you in your circumstances (needing to undercover, etc.).  And, at first glance the premium paid for the Porsche seems unjustified.  And I have never been inside, or driven, an X5M.  But I do wonder if there are other tangible quailities in the Porsche that may justify the premium.  Build quality, interior comfort and luxury, other appointments, that justify the premium.  Acceleration is only one of a series of characteristics that make up a fine automobile. 

    I honestly am not disputing you, but would like your comments on whether--overall--the Porsche is worth the premium.


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    In  the uk the turbo cayenne is  £1500  more than the X5M.

    So who would buy the 5m then ? ? ?

     


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    In Portugal the X5M is 6500 euros more expensive than the CT. 

    X5M - 159500 euros...... stupid taxes!!


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    c4c:

    In Portugal the X5M is 6500 euros more expensive than the CT. 

    X5M - 159500 euros...... stupid taxes!.


    Indeed this is a crazy country to buy sports cars. I could easily drive a 997 Turbo in Germany for the money I gave for my Cabrio S.

    J.Seven


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    RC:
    nina:

     RC they are both overpriced. As the economy worsens expect great deals!!!

     

    Martha, you word in god's ear but I already got the deal of my life with the X5 M. In my town, it is a town with over 350000 people, I own the only X5 M. Unbelievable. Smiley

    I just hope to get a similar deal on a Cayenne Turbo S (new model) sometime in the future when this model is going to be available. Smiley


    RC, Even if you get a great deal on the upcoming Cayenne Turbo S, how on earth are you going to appease your neighbors/customers that have perception issues with such vehicles?
    --

    2003 Cayenne Turbo


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    bigbuzuki:

    RC, Even if you get a great deal on the upcoming Cayenne Turbo S, how on earth are you going to appease your neighbors/customers that have perception issues with such vehicles?

     

    Good point. Smiley Smiley

    Of course I would get the Cayenne Turbo S only if the public perception of the new Cayenne changes. Right now, many people don't even seem to realize that the new Cayenne is the new Cayenne, one of my wife's friend's mistook my Cayenne Turbo testcar for a Nissan (no kidding). The car was parked in my garage driveway and she saw it only from the side.

    Time will tell...I have another two years to decide on it. Smiley

    I love Porsche but paying 35000 EUR premium just for the brand...not really going to happen.

    As to the quality of the X5 M: so far, the truck has been impeccable, no issues whatsoever and I now have hard driven 3300 km on it. The interior and exterior quality is at least at par with the new Cayenne but I have to admit that the Cayenne interior looks sportier. I also miss the air suspension of the Cayenne Turbo but thats another story.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: AMS - Porsche Cayenne S TEST

    Wonderbar:

    RC, I certainly don't argue that the X5M is superior in performance to the Cayenne S, or that it is the right car for you in your circumstances (needing to undercover, etc.).  And, at first glance the premium paid for the Porsche seems unjustified.  And I have never been inside, or driven, an X5M.  But I do wonder if there are other tangible quailities in the Porsche that may justify the premium.  Build quality, interior comfort and luxury, other appointments, that justify the premium.  Acceleration is only one of a series of characteristics that make up a fine automobile. 

    I honestly am not disputing you, but would like your comments on whether--overall--the Porsche is worth the premium.

     

    Almost every invisible part, with the exception of the engine and some interior parts, are actually made by or for Volkswagen, a lot of parts even carry the VW logo.

    So now let me ask you: in the US, would people prefer a VW over a BMW ? Smiley Smiley

    Don't get me wrong, the VW Touareg has a good quality too, so there is nothing wrong with that but it definitely isn't better than BMW build/material quality.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


     
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