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    dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987?

    is this true, can anyone confirm this?

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987?

    I don't believe that it has been eliminated, but perhaps it occurs less frequently now. If your dealer is willing to say this to you as a matter of fact, you should be careful, because that statement really isn't factual.

    Still a great car though!

    mcdelaug

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987?

    Dealers will say anything to sell you the car. Think about it. What else are they going to say? The RMS problem hasn't been fixed?

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    Nope it hasn't been fixed but the chance of it occuring is much less because they did some patchwork. Tips have a even less chance of failure. There was a recent post on this on another board explaining the details.

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    This reminds me of the pinion bearing problem on the 968. During the four years of production, Porsche never acknowledged the problem publicly or told people it had been fixed. Instead of putting customers' minds at ease -- the right thing to do -- they attempted to reduce their liability by not saying anything publicly even though they fixed some cars, both in and out of warranty.

    When I sold my 968, people were constantly asking about the problem. Even though mine was one of the last built, and I had no problem, I could give them no assurance that the factory had rectified it. Stupid!

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    the RMS has never been fixed, it has been around on the M96 and M97 engines since the M96 came out in the boxster in 1997

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987?

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    crex said:
    is this true, can anyone confirm this?


    Maybe you should have asked your dealer what changes have been made to achieve the "fix"?

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    Correct RMS will be a problem forever. Until they machine the castings with great precison, the "as-is" casting where the seal is bedded will always be a problem area. Some castings just aren't as good (accurate) as others in that area and therefore it's a lottery which ones will leak.

    Maybe your dealer is saying they've made improvements to the casting process, but until they MACHINE where those seals seat ($$$ to do this "right") there will be problems.

    Just repeating what I read. Correct me if I'm wrong.


    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    Corporations have adopted risk management strategies for dealing with latent defects. You can be certain that Porsche management crunched the numbers (or someone did it for them) to determine whether re-engineering/re-tooling M96 would be cost effective, or whether responding to problems as they arise "in the field" would be more economical. An additional factor that likely contributed to their current policy is decliing length of average ownership since the manufacturer obligation declines with subsequent owners over time. The proliferation of leases and financing plans that encourage short term ownership maximize profit and decreases long term obligations to initial (and repeat) customers. This is particularly true of the US market.

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    what a stand up company! hmm maybe i am looking at buying the wrong car..

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    Quote:
    MMD said:
    Correct RMS will be a problem forever. Until they machine the castings with great precison, the "as-is" casting where the seal is bedded will always be a problem area. Some castings just aren't as good (accurate) as others in that area and therefore it's a lottery which ones will leak.

    Maybe your dealer is saying they've made improvements to the casting process, but until they MACHINE where those seals seat ($$$ to do this "right") there will be problems.

    Just repeating what I read. Correct me if I'm wrong.




    NO unmachined casting would be accurate enough to house an oil seal adequately.

    Just because we read a lot of BS, it doesn't mean we have to believe it!

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    The block is made using the investment casting process. It comes our of the mold as a finished product, so there is no additional machining of it. Its a remarkable manufacturing
    achievement, but not 100% perfect 100% of the time.

    Audi, not Porsche, is the worlds leader in mass production engine block quality. They use a UV laser to "machine" engine blocks for their TDI series of motors. Their process is quicker and more precise than the Thyssens investment casting technology that Porsche uses or the traditional way of mechanically milling a rough casting into a engine block.

    Re: dealer says porsche has fixed the rms issure for the 987

    Quote:
    crex said:
    what a stand up company! hmm maybe i am looking at buying the wrong car..



    Its just an oil leak, but the car is fantastic. Don't let this potential problem stop you purchasing the car. just make sure its under warranty either new or used.

     
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