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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    I'm pretty sure the 992 is an amazing 911 and very likely the "best" (individual definition, so difficult to categorize) 911 ever but is it also a 911 people want to own and enjoy? I know that I'm probably not the most qualified person here to express my feelings about the 992 since I abandoned the 911 completely after my 991.1 Turbo S experience (amazing car, fast, perfect but...boring as hell, no fun at all) but I think that the GT models have remained the last really emotional ones, so Porsche needs to be careful not to "ruin" them as well. angry Not that it is their (Porsche) fault, new emissions/sound emissions laws and crash safety improvements always take a toll.

    At some point in the future, especially starting with Euro 7, engines will loose a lot of power, technically it isn't possible otherwise, unless they invent new tech. Meaning: Back to lightweight cars, as weird as this may sound. Or we switch to EVs completely, which would be a shame but in a longterm perspective probably inevitable. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    The exhaust sound and the farting are enough for me not to consider buying the 992. Also, none of the reviews mention rawness which is essential for a sport car.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    nberry:

    The exhaust sound and the farting are enough for me not to consider buying the 992. Also, none of the reviews mention rawness which is essential for a sport car.

    It's a Carrera. Nobody is looking for a raw Carrera, it's meant to be a daily driver... It should be sporty, talented, but useable. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Porker:
    nberry:

    The exhaust sound and the farting are enough for me not to consider buying the 992. Also, none of the reviews mention rawness which is essential for a sport car.

    It's a Carrera. Nobody is looking for a raw Carrera, it's meant to be a daily driver... It should be sporty, talented, but useable. 

    True. Smiley This is why the 992 will sell pretty well but what worries me a lot are the prices. Will be interesting to see if people bite or not.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    RC:

    I'm pretty sure the 992 is an amazing 911 and very likely the "best" (individual definition, so difficult to categorize) 911 ever but is it also a 911 people want to own and enjoy? I know that I'm probably not the most qualified person here to express my feelings about the 992 since I abandoned the 911 completely after my 991.1 Turbo S experience (amazing car, fast, perfect but...boring as hell, no fun at all) but I think that the GT models have remained the last really emotional ones, so Porsche needs to be careful not to "ruin" them as well. angry Not that it is their (Porsche) fault, new emissions/sound emissions laws and crash safety improvements always take a toll.

    At some point in the future, especially starting with Euro 7, engines will loose a lot of power, technically it isn't possible otherwise, unless they invent new tech. Meaning: Back to lightweight cars, as weird as this may sound. Or we switch to EVs completely, which would be a shame but in a longterm perspective probably inevitable.

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor

    Hi Christian, what we are all waiting for is your official Rennteam first drive review of the new Porsche 992... 

    Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Funny - most of us joined this forum years back while owning and celebrating Porsche. Everything was around Porsche. Look on us now - we all like them, some own one but most of us lost that passion for a strong bit. 

    No doubt - this 992 is a good looking successor. My Mum and Dad, 75 & 76 years old will love it too and be happy about the added comfort!

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Legislation plays a big part, I have my issues with the 992 but considering the challenges they are facing in trying to deliver an evolution with regulations getting more and more restrictive, I think they are doing a good job.

    And like Frank pointed out, this is the Carrera, there is still a GT version coming, for those looking for a more raw 911, and a Turbo for those looking for power and versatility. Fact is every generation is more popular than the previous and this will be no different. Sure, many of us don't like things like the downsizing-turbo changes imposed by legislation requirements in the Carrera, but it's not like other makers are offer anything different, they are in the same boat.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Boxster Coupe GTS:
    RC:

    I'm pretty sure the 992 is an amazing 911 and very likely the "best" (individual definition, so difficult to categorize) 911 ever but is it also a 911 people want to own and enjoy? I know that I'm probably not the most qualified person here to express my feelings about the 992 since I abandoned the 911 completely after my 991.1 Turbo S experience (amazing car, fast, perfect but...boring as hell, no fun at all) but I think that the GT models have remained the last really emotional ones, so Porsche needs to be careful not to "ruin" them as well. angry Not that it is their (Porsche) fault, new emissions/sound emissions laws and crash safety improvements always take a toll.

    At some point in the future, especially starting with Euro 7, engines will loose a lot of power, technically it isn't possible otherwise, unless they invent new tech. Meaning: Back to lightweight cars, as weird as this may sound. Or we switch to EVs completely, which would be a shame but in a longterm perspective probably inevitable.

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor

    Hi Christian, what we are all waiting for is your official Rennteam first drive review of the new Porsche 992... 

    Smiley

    Let's see if I get to drive one...officially. Smiley Smiley

    I'll try to put my hands on a 992 Carrera S as soon as possible.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Lars997:

    Funny - most of us joined this forum years back while owning and celebrating Porsche. Everything was around Porsche. Look on us now - we all like them, some own one but most of us lost that passion for a strong bit. 

    No doubt - this 992 is a good looking successor. My Mum and Dad, 75 & 76 years old will love it too and be happy about the added comfort!

     

    Porsche has provided too much "room" for other manufacturers to fill in. Big mistake in my opinion, even if some of the manufacturers are part of the same family (VW Group).


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    RC:
    Lars997:

    Funny - most of us joined this forum years back while owning and celebrating Porsche. Everything was around Porsche. Look on us now - we all like them, some own one but most of us lost that passion for a strong bit. 

    No doubt - this 992 is a good looking successor. My Mum and Dad, 75 & 76 years old will love it too and be happy about the added comfort!

     

    Porsche has provided too much "room" for other manufacturers to fill in. Big mistake in my opinion, even if some of the manufacturers are part of the same family (VW Group).

    What does Porsche care when most of its sales, and profitability, is from SUVs?


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    CGX car nut:
    RC:
    Lars997:

    Funny - most of us joined this forum years back while owning and celebrating Porsche. Everything was around Porsche. Look on us now - we all like them, some own one but most of us lost that passion for a strong bit. 

    No doubt - this 992 is a good looking successor. My Mum and Dad, 75 & 76 years old will love it too and be happy about the added comfort!

     

    Porsche has provided too much "room" for other manufacturers to fill in. Big mistake in my opinion, even if some of the manufacturers are part of the same family (VW Group).

    What does Porsche care when most of its sales, and profitability, is from SUVs?

    Well - they are profitable. And every single year sets a new record in numbers. So - they do everything right!


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Lars997:
    CGX car nut:
    RC:
    Lars997:

    Funny - most of us joined this forum years back while owning and celebrating Porsche. Everything was around Porsche. Look on us now - we all like them, some own one but most of us lost that passion for a strong bit. 

    No doubt - this 992 is a good looking successor. My Mum and Dad, 75 & 76 years old will love it too and be happy about the added comfort!

     

    Porsche has provided too much "room" for other manufacturers to fill in. Big mistake in my opinion, even if some of the manufacturers are part of the same family (VW Group).

    What does Porsche care when most of its sales, and profitability, is from SUVs?

    Well - they are profitable. And every single year sets a new record in numbers. So - they do everything right!

    They do everything right from a business perspective but as a customer, I cannot be happy about it. This is why I moved on, not that it really matters. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    RC:
    Lars997:
    CGX car nut:
    RC:
    Lars997:

    Funny - most of us joined this forum years back while owning and celebrating Porsche. Everything was around Porsche. Look on us now - we all like them, some own one but most of us lost that passion for a strong bit. 

    No doubt - this 992 is a good looking successor. My Mum and Dad, 75 & 76 years old will love it too and be happy about the added comfort!

     

    Porsche has provided too much "room" for other manufacturers to fill in. Big mistake in my opinion, even if some of the manufacturers are part of the same family (VW Group).

    What does Porsche care when most of its sales, and profitability, is from SUVs?

    Well - they are profitable. And every single year sets a new record in numbers. So - they do everything right!

    They do everything right from a business perspective but as a customer, I cannot be happy about it. This is why I moved on, not that it really matters. 

    And that's what allows them to survive and thrive. Sadly the die hard Porsche fan is a very small % of their client base at this point, and it's more profitable to keep soccer moms and poseurs happy rather than catering to a small albeit passionate group. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    True but if Porsche survives as a SUV and EV manufacturer, I'm not so sure this is a good thing in the end... Smiley

    I suspect VW Group has set clear guidelines for all brands and Porsche has a certain function in this brand family, I get it. Not sure however I am happy about it because currently, there is maybe one Porsche I would buy...the GT3 RS. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Porker:
    nberry:

    The exhaust sound and the farting are enough for me not to consider buying the 992. Also, none of the reviews mention rawness which is essential for a sport car.

    It's a Carrera. Nobody is looking for a raw Carrera, it's meant to be a daily driver... It should be sporty, talented, but useable. 

    Why bother with a sport car? The TT Macan, Panamera and Cayenne have all the attributes you list plus more. Sporty, talented, usable, functional, carry more passengers and still a Porsche. I guess that's why Porsche sells more of these vehicles than the 911.Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    nberry:
    Porker:
    nberry:

    The exhaust sound and the farting are enough for me not to consider buying the 992. Also, none of the reviews mention rawness which is essential for a sport car.

    It's a Carrera. Nobody is looking for a raw Carrera, it's meant to be a daily driver... It should be sporty, talented, but useable. 

    Why bother with a sport car? The TT Macan, Panamera and Cayenne have all the attributes you list plus more. Sporty, talented, usable, functional, carry more passengers and still a Porsche. I guess that's why Porsche sells more of these vehicles than the 911.Smiley

    True. I can absolutely recommend the E63 as a daily driver. If people don't like it, there is the M5 Comp. or the upcoming RS6. Fantastic family cars in my opinion, especially now with AWD.

    Panamera and Cayenne has become too expensive in my opinion...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    for one petrolhead customer disappointed, they have 10 newbies in need of status recognition with Porsche badge on the hood even if the car weight 2 tons or handle like a whale.

    Porsche is selling more and more cars. All random customers interested in their SUV or fat pany or even the coming taycan are convinced they are buying a sport car. yes, you read it, a sport car.

    system works, no change - system stabilizes or decreased, time for adjustment.

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Porsche 911 Carrera S (992): Driven by PistonHeads

    Let's be honest, there's nothing left to know about the 992 era of 911 beyond what it's like to drive. The covers have been whipped off it California, the obligatory passenger rides have taken place and the tech deep dive has been endured. This is, as expected, the most capable, most efficient, most tech-laden 911 there has been in nearly 60 years. The only thing left to discover is how it goes.

    It has something to prove, too. Keep the 992 too close to the 991 from which it's ultimately derived and the cries of lazy complacency will be heard from here to Hockenheim. Make it basically a two-door Panamera with a flat-six and the protests about Porsche abandoning sports cars for good will make the conversation around Gregg's vegan sausage rolls look sanguine. Maybe. The point being that, despite range diversification, the 911 is Porsche's self-proclaimed icon. Its influence can be felt throughout the range and, while not the best seller for a while, it's quite clearly a very important car.

    Moreover, the 992 is not short of rivals. A Carrera 4S is now very nearly a £100,000 car before options, at £98,418; more capable and faster than ever it might be, but a six-figure price is a now a more easily achieved threshold than ever for a 'regular' 911. Once you're there, surely a temptation arises to move into more powerful sports cars, or even junior supercars. This needs to be good.

    Time behind the wheel begins at the completely unfamiliar Circuito Ricardo Tormo, with one lap for a warm up and four to try and keep up with the instructor. Who's in a GT3 RS. And telling you to keep up. And getting further and further away, with one hand on the wheel and the other holding the radio.

    Despite the stress of the situation, the 911 is very, very good on circuit. For a plain old Carrera it's borderline brilliant. The test car was fitted with the four-wheel steer, 10mm lower PASM Sport chassis, PDCC (Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, the active anti-roll system) and ceramic brakes; not an unrepresentative spec, basically, apart from maybe the discs, and yet the car was immense. Precise, accurate, fast, engaging, sufficiently tactile and tremendously capable, it surpassed even the loftiest expectations for it as a circuit car.

    The turbo flat six was very good before; with reworked turbos, new injectors and extra power it's better than ever. Response is keener from low revs, the reach more exciting higher up and the mid range strong enough to lug out of bends a gear higher than necessary. Because you've forgotten to change down. A chassis that was eager is now even more responsive than before; the steering ratio is 11 per cent more direct which, combined with the four-wheel steer, gives an uncanny directness and alertness to the front end. With some load through the wheel there's information coming back, though any driver familiar with GT 991s - leave alone anything older - may find it a little lacking.

    A PDK gearbox that arguably didn't require improvement is more decisive again, with the paddles or without. There's even a chassis that knows a little of 911 adjustability and communication, albeit at pretty high commitment levels: a lift of the throttle accurately trims a cornering line, and trailing the brakes into a corner - or massively outbraking yourself, whichever is preferred - can get the rear swinging usefully to nudge the front somewhere nearer the apex, before the assists subtly but decisively get involved. Oh yes, and the 992 feels wholly up for the punishment, dampers taking gratuitous kerb nibbles, tyres resiliently grippy and brakes resolutely firm. The latter is to be expected, of course, though everything from this brief stint would imply any 992 could take a proper track pasting. Let's hope buyers explore the huge vat of ability that's certainly here.

    To switch from an eye-opening track drive to a more sedate road route is always going to be less memorable, though the difference seems the more stark in a 992. It's a familiar grievance from the 911, and will sound as unjustifiably harsh as it did previously, but the car simply isn't as entertaining and engaging as you would either hope or expect at road speeds. In something like a Sports Series McLaren, ordinary speeds proffer opportunity to revel in the steering, or the view out, or the spooky ability of the ride to both communicate and cosset. An Aston Vantage smothers its driver with opulent materials and a rousing soundtrack. Look over the shoulder in an Audi R8 and there's a 5.2-litre V10. Tremendously sorted though the 992 is, assured and able and almost freakishly talented, there's precious little surprise and delight at road speed. Is it relevant when most customers will embrace the extra refinement and comfort? Probably not. But maybe so.

    The car is polished, slick, unobtrusive - the gearbox flawless, steering accurate, ride remarkably accommodating despite 21-inch rear wheels. The 992 is perhaps guilty of feeling a little plain at points though, which it can arguably ill afford to do at this money. It's hardly like only rivals know a better compromise, either; the joy of recent GT Porsches - you knew this was coming - has been in their ability to combine focus and excitement with ease of use. It's probably harsh, one person's aloof being another's appropriately luxurious, but it would be nice to have a closer relationship between what the track has proved to be a phenomenally good car and what you as a driver experience on the road .

    Of course one solution is to drive a bit quicker. Then the (optional) exhaust comes alive, snorting and howling through that vast powerband, the wastegates chuff like it's a classic turbo Porsche racer and the front will even a bob a tad on bumpier surfaces in the softer suspension mode. Traction can be challenged a bit in tighter turns, the brakes (now standard iron) just get better and better and the steering is lucid and rewarding - the more the driver pushes, the more the 992 gives back. Trouble is, on the road that starts to feel a little irresponsible, such is the ability of the car and the speed that's a direct corollary. That's leaving aside the size as well, which feels a topic to best revisit in the UK. However good those rear arches look in the mirrors, they're never entirely out of mind when driving.

    Still, whatever the road scenario, passengers are ensconced in the best 911 interior yet. By a mile, in fact. Of course the important stuff is spot on - driving position, wheel diameter and thickness, other contact points - only now embellished with an even greater sense of material quality and luxury. It feels expensive, contemporary and stylish in a 992, sufficiently so to make a 991 feel decidedly old hat. The interior is more logical than that in a Vantage, more advanced even than an R8 and more responsive than any McLaren. It's really very good indeed. Should it be more exciting? No, not really, because that's not the 911 way, is it?

    Which is very much the crux of this car. Everything that buyers will have enjoyed about the 991 Carreras - the usability, the quality, the performance, the refinement and so on - has been tangibly improved for the 992. And thus it will surely prove extremely popular. That the car is now even further honed, even more exciting at the limit, will largely be of little consequence. If it's not been bought for that before, then why so now?

    There are a few more points worth noting. From here the steering is slightly preferable in two-wheel drive cars to four, the latter giving a sliver of unwanted resistance. The PASM Sport setting is entirely usable on the road, if initially quite firm; truth be told the standard mode is that good, that impeccably damped, that it's seldom beneficial to swap. Manualrevs or change up at 7,500rpm, which is nice. Any intervention from assists is perfectly judged. For what it's worth, too, from here it looks fantastic both as a static object and on the move: big, certainly, but assertive, attractive and very clearly a 911.

    It also, pleasingly, feels excellent going sideways; the sprinkler circuit ostensibly there to test the Wet mode proved so. And that the new mode is very clever, of course, making the car virtually unbinnable in adverse conditions. But be in no doubt: beyond the limit the 992 is great, performing that lovely 911 trick of always feeling to be driving forward no matter how wayward things look. Lovely.

    The end result, therefore, is a 911 update in exactly the mould that was expected, and with predictably impressive results. It'll go further and faster on less fuel than ever, lap quicker regardless of your skill level, cosset passengers in greater comfort and provide more technology to keep all safer and better entertained. Those who buy 911s for how they drive might be disappointed to find its considerable talents (and fun, it should be said) trickier to access, though how many people is that, really? The truly committed could spend the same money on an Evora, if they really wanted to. For those after the most complete, capable, effortless-yet-enjoyable sports car around though, this 992 has it sewn up - what on earth else did you expect from a 911?

    SPECIFICATION - PORSCHE 911 CARRERA S (992)

    Engine: 2,981cc, twin-turbo straight-six
    Transmission: 8-speed PDK auto, rear-wheel drive
    Power (hp): 450@6,500rpm
    Torque (lb ft): 391@2,300-5,000rpm
    0-62mph: 3.7 seconds
    Top speed: 191mph
    Weight: 1,515kg (DIN)
    MPG: TBA
    CO2: TBA
    Price: £93,110

    SPECIFICATION - PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 4 S (992)

    Engine: 2,981cc, twin-turbo straight-six
    Transmission: 8-speed PDK auto, four-wheel drive
    Power (hp): 450@6,500rpm
    Torque (lb ft): 391@2,300-5,000rpm
    0-62mph: 3.6 seconds
    Top speed: 190mph
    Weight: 1,565kg (DIN)
    MPG: TBA
    CO2: TBA
    Price: £98,418

    Link:  https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/porsche-911-carrera-s-992--driven/39466

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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    the-missile:

    for one petrolhead customer disappointed, they have 10 newbies in need of status recognition with Porsche badge on the hood even if the car weight 2 tons or handle like a whale.

    Unfortunately... Smiley

    Porsche is selling more and more cars. All random customers interested in their SUV or fat pany or even the coming taycan are convinced they are buying a sport car. yes, you read it, a sport car.

    I know... Smiley

    system works, no change - system stabilizes or decreased, time for adjustment.

     

    It works but people like me are basically forced to switch. Sad.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    RC:

    It works but people like me are basically forced to switch. Sad.

    You could be very happy with GT3 or GT3RS Smiley like very very happy Smiley the rest I agree is Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    the-missile:

    for one petrolhead customer disappointed, they have 10 newbies in need of status recognition with Porsche badge on the hood even if the car weight 2 tons or handle like a whale.

    Porsche is selling more and more cars. All random customers interested in their SUV or fat pany or even the coming taycan are convinced they are buying a sport car. yes, you read it, a sport car.

    system works, no change - system stabilizes or decreased, time for adjustment.

     

    I don't see a reason to be so sceptical? The 991.2 has left us on a high note (991.2 GT3/RS/GT2 RS) and the 992 Carrera reviews are great right from the start. What's not to like? Don't expect a 911 to be a mid-engined supercar of course, it isn't...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    +1


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    two griefs, bud - turbo engine laughand the silly 21inches at rear enlightened

    the rest, 911. no problem.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    I went from a 991.1 GT3 to a 991.2 Targa 4S to a 991.2GT3 to a 991.2GT3RS.

    In the GT cars a felt I was in a proper sport car. In the Targa I was in a cut down Porsche sedan. The difference is dramatic. One excites the sense when starting and the grin on the face never leaves until you turn the car off. The other was "what the fuck have I done". Boring. surprise

    The 992 will be no different.enlightened

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    the-missile:
    RC:

    It works but people like me are basically forced to switch. Sad.

    You could be very happy with GT3 or GT3RS Smiley like very very happy Smiley the rest I agree is Smiley

    Yes...with 150 hp more, a nicer look (my wife absolutely hates the GT3 RS...the wing is too much for many women Smiley but surprisingly, every woman loves the Performante Smiley...the female mysteries of life Smiley) and a nicer interior (I can't look at the 911 interior anymore...this was 30% of the reason why I didn't want to get a 911 again).

    I had high hopes for the GT2 RS but it wasn't the car I expected, so I moved on... 

    Again, don't get me wrong...this is me making weird complaints at a very very high level, nothing to take serious. Smiley

    Still waiting for that 960...probably never going to happen.  Oh well...with the next Huracan generation maybe.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    This car screams out for a manual gearbox to provide a bit of tactile delight and to move away from the mundane.  


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    RC:
    the-missile:
    RC:

    It works but people like me are basically forced to switch. Sad.

    You could be very happy with GT3 or GT3RS Smiley like very very happy Smiley the rest I agree is Smiley

    Yes...with 150 hp more, a nicer look (my wife absolutely hates the GT3 RS...the wing is too much for many women Smiley but surprisingly, every woman loves the Performante Smiley...the female mysteries of life Smiley) and a nicer interior (I can't look at the 911 interior anymore...this was 30% of the reason why I didn't want to get a 911 again).

    I had high hopes for the GT2 RS but it wasn't the car I expected, so I moved on... 

    Again, don't get me wrong...this is me making weird complaints at a very very high level, nothing to take serious. Smiley

    Still waiting for that 960...probably never going to happen.  Oh well...with the next Huracan generation maybe.

    Every woman loves the performante. SmileySmiley

    I agree they all hate GT3 RS's but same goes for lambo's in my book.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Porker:
    RC:
    the-missile:
    RC:

    It works but people like me are basically forced to switch. Sad.

    You could be very happy with GT3 or GT3RS Smiley like very very happy Smiley the rest I agree is Smiley

    Yes...with 150 hp more, a nicer look (my wife absolutely hates the GT3 RS...the wing is too much for many women Smiley but surprisingly, every woman loves the Performante Smiley...the female mysteries of life Smiley) and a nicer interior (I can't look at the 911 interior anymore...this was 30% of the reason why I didn't want to get a 911 again).

    I had high hopes for the GT2 RS but it wasn't the car I expected, so I moved on... 

    Again, don't get me wrong...this is me making weird complaints at a very very high level, nothing to take serious. Smiley

    Still waiting for that 960...probably never going to happen.  Oh well...with the next Huracan generation maybe.

    Every woman loves the performante. SmileySmiley

    I agree they all hate GT3 RS's but same goes for lambo's in my book.

     

    It's more like every woman loves Lamborghini period. Doesn't matter Aventador or Huracan or Gallardo or Diablo or whatever.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Porker:
    RC:
    the-missile:
    RC:

    It works but people like me are basically forced to switch. Sad.

    You could be very happy with GT3 or GT3RS Smiley like very very happy Smiley the rest I agree is Smiley

    Yes...with 150 hp more, a nicer look (my wife absolutely hates the GT3 RS...the wing is too much for many women Smiley but surprisingly, every woman loves the Performante Smiley...the female mysteries of life Smiley) and a nicer interior (I can't look at the 911 interior anymore...this was 30% of the reason why I didn't want to get a 911 again).

    I had high hopes for the GT2 RS but it wasn't the car I expected, so I moved on... 

    Again, don't get me wrong...this is me making weird complaints at a very very high level, nothing to take serious. Smiley

    Still waiting for that 960...probably never going to happen.  Oh well...with the next Huracan generation maybe.

    Every woman loves the performante. SmileySmiley

    I agree they all hate GT3 RS's but same goes for lambo's in my book.

    I was talking about women, not girlies. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    nberry:

    I went from a 991.1 GT3 to a 991.2 Targa 4S to a 991.2GT3 to a 991.2GT3RS.

    In the GT cars a felt I was in a proper sport car. In the Targa I was in a cut down Porsche sedan. The difference is dramatic. One excites the sense when starting and the grin on the face never leaves until you turn the car off. The other was "what the fuck have I done". Boring. surprise

    The 992 will be no different.enlightened

     

    Every road legal car is a compromise. I would love to DD a 992 since I need a backseat for my son. No Cayenne or Macan drives as good as a 911, and a Carrera fits the bill for most people in real life traffic. 

    And concerning the boring part: it’s all relative. I fell a sleep in GT cars you mentioned when I drive them at Spa in comparison with my Donkervoort GT. A 992 would be the perfect car to drive home from such a hectic trackday Smiley


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    997.2 4S / BMW X5 40e / Donkervoort GT 

     


     
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