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    Autocar first drive: Gallardo Superleggera

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    What's it like?
    In a word, sensational.

    The noise is what hits you first, because the Superleggera's new exhaust system has liberated a good few extra decibels from the V10, especially at the top end. But the real step forward is the handling....




    http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/CarRevi...leggera/224487/

    Re: Autocar first drive: Gallardo Superleggera

    Thx for the link temm.
    I don't like those wheels.. Yuck!

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    thanks...

    but agreed with ha, those wheels looks cheap!

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    the wheels dont bother me , but the exhaust tip looks cheap when you see them live

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    I think the wheels look amazing, but the exhaust....no thanks!

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    ha said:
    Thx for the link temm.
    I don't like those wheels.. Yuck!



    Yes look aftermarket. Normally Lambo has the best looking wheels.

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    I love the WHEELS, love the EXHAUST, love it all!!!!

    the alcantara cockpit must be incredibly nice in real!


    thanks for the pics !

    Re: Autocar first drive: Gallardo Superleggera

    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD

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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).

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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.

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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.



    that's right 1330 kg is completely dry what i don't get is how is the gallardo not lighter being a smaller car with all the CF even if you take out 50kg for AWD i would expect it to be lighter

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    looks like audi tt sport quattro rims

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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.


    it has 179kg of fluids?????? i doubt...

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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.


    it has 179kg of fluids?????? i doubt...



    No, it surely hasn't, but the official weight claims are a lie.

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    1330kg is weight without all fluids(incl. fuel), options etc.
    You need to add 10L of engine oil and 20L of engine coolant. Brake fluids, servo steering fluid etc.

    I belive that EU Norm weight of SL is around 1500kg(with normal brakes)...

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    KresoF1 said:
    1330kg is weight without all fluids(incl. fuel), options etc.
    You need to add 10L of engine oil and 20L of engine coolant. Brake fluids, servo steering fluid etc.

    I belive that EU Norm weight of SL is around 1500kg(with normal brakes)...



    So that's on par with the standard F430.

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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.


    it has 179kg of fluids?????? i doubt...



    same here.

    AmuS stated for 1687kg for Gallardo(04) i think it is with ful of gas and including driver weight.

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    Rossi said:
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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.


    it has 179kg of fluids?????? i doubt...



    No, it surely hasn't, but the official weight claims are a lie.


    i dont think they can be that stupid... thats a very easy to verify lie..

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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.


    it has 179kg of fluids?????? i doubt...



    No, it surely hasn't, but the official weight claims are a lie.


    i dont think they can be that stupid... thats a very easy to verify lie..



    The Italiens don't care (did they ever do? ).

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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.


    it has 179kg of fluids?????? i doubt...



    No, it surely hasn't, but the official weight claims are a lie.


    i dont think they can be that stupid... thats a very easy to verify lie..



    The Italiens don't care (did they ever do? ).


    i COMPLETLY agree stefan... but dont forget Audi own lamborghini and all the upper management is german, and comes directly from ingolstadt... do you think germans care?
    so i understand f430 numbers are fake?

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    Rossi said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    1330kg is weight without all fluids(incl. fuel), options etc.
    You need to add 10L of engine oil and 20L of engine coolant. Brake fluids, servo steering fluid etc.

    I belive that EU Norm weight of SL is around 1500kg(with normal brakes)...



    So that's on par with the standard F430.



    Maybe they strapped a pair of oversized helium balloons into the seats to simulate passengers. "Look, it still only weighs 1330 kg!"

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    car magazine review here link

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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Rossi said:
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    dhayek said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    krC2S said:
    thanks for the link
    love the looks and sure it will sound great but "featherlight"
    i doubt ..1330kg is completely dry weight not curb weight so with fluids will be good but not lighter than a 430 or gt3 let alone a 430LP

    would have been perfect with RWD



    The Ferrari 430 averages at around 1500 kg in tests (most often about 1500 to 1520 kg), so the Superleggera is definitely lighter than the 430 and will probably remain as light as the Light Pista (what a strange name ).



    Sorry to disagree. In the last issue of auto motor and sport the stated a weight of 1497kg for the Superleggera. So this is pretty much the same as the STANDARD F430, which averages at around 1500kg as you correctly stated. So the SL is definitely not lighter than the F430, but the LP will.


    it has 179kg of fluids?????? i doubt...



    No, it surely hasn't, but the official weight claims are a lie.


    i dont think they can be that stupid... thats a very easy to verify lie..



    The Italiens don't care (did they ever do? ).


    i COMPLETLY agree stefan... but dont forget Audi own lamborghini and all the upper management is german, and comes directly from ingolstadt... do you think germans care?
    so i understand f430 numbers are fake?




    In fact I think Ferrari numbers are getting better, what means nearer to reality. When you think back of F355 or Challenge Stradale for example, no car really reached the quite low factory numbers. The 430 is now said to have 1525kg (I think that's including the driver), so the test numbers of 1500kg (is that with or without driver?) is not that far away.
    But the Gallardo was always different: much smaller than the F430, said to weigh even less than the Ferrari, but reaching up to 1600kg in several test magazines...

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    btw none of these numbers include driver..all cars are getting heavier but i agree ferrari are lying less than others it seems which is surprising

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    krC2S said:
    all cars are getting heavier but i agree ferrari are lying less than others it seems which is surprising



    but still lying...

    IMO all 4WD cars are heavy.
    That's what you pay for the extra traction.

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    Rossi,

    But do not ignore Gallardo has a weight disadvantage about 100kg regarding the AWD system.

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    Gallardo's and R8 AWD system weight around 55kg...

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    997GT2 said:
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    krC2S said:
    all cars are getting heavier but i agree ferrari are lying less than others it seems which is surprising



    but still lying...

    IMO all 4WD cars are heavy.
    That's what you pay for the extra traction.



    yes i was expecting that but i didn't expect porsche to be lying even more about car weights

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    KresoF1 said:
    Gallardo's and R8 AWD system weight around 55kg...



    Hmm then i might be worng about 100kg.

    I just got the point about comments conversion Murcie to RWD. some guys claimed they will make a diet about 100kg on AWD Lambos.

    Re: Autocar first drive: Gallardo Superleggera

    its around 55 kg caghan , for all the awd..

     
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