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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    RC:
    noone1:

    Never owned or driven one, and probably never will, but I've always thought it was kind of ugly. It's way smaller in real life than it seems, but still not a great looking car. I would never spend $1-2M on one. Many better and cooler options in that price range.

    Actually, in real life, the Bugatti Veyron looks much better than in photos. It may not be the fastest in twists and turns but it is a lot of fun straight line, especially on the Autobahn. A monster, especially over 250 kph.

    Actually - the Bugattii Veyron "VITESSE" looks much better than the 1001 HP model. The little details make it much more likable. And yes - pictures don't do justice!


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    The Vitesse is a monster but I never had the pleasure... kiss


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    What do these car manufacturers have with wrapped cars? They drive me nuts...


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    looking very promising. 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    looks like they don't have to bother to unveil it.. we already know the design. 


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Atzporsche:

    looks like they don't have to bother to unveil it.. we already know the design. 

    Smiley my thoughts


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Bugatti Chiron Spotted Testing With Porsche 918, Huracan and Veyron http://thesupercarkids.com/bugatti-chiron-spotted-testing-with-porsche-918-huracan-and-veyron/


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    koko:

    Bugatti Chiron Spotted Testing With Porsche 918, Huracan and Veyron http://thesupercarkids.com/bugatti-chiron-spotted-testing-with-porsche-918-huracan-and-veyron/

    Interesting what they choose for test driving. Most surprising is the i8 as non-VW car in the group 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Lars997:
    koko:

    Bugatti Chiron Spotted Testing With Porsche 918, Huracan and Veyron http://thesupercarkids.com/bugatti-chiron-spotted-testing-with-porsche-918-huracan-and-veyron/

    Interesting what they choose for test driving. Most surprising is the i8 as non-VW car in the group 

    Isn't the Chiron supposed to be using some sort of hybrid tech? Smiley


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    RC:
    Lars997:
    koko:

    Bugatti Chiron Spotted Testing With Porsche 918, Huracan and Veyron http://thesupercarkids.com/bugatti-chiron-spotted-testing-with-porsche-918-huracan-and-veyron/

    Interesting what they choose for test driving. Most surprising is the i8 as non-VW car in the group 

    Isn't the Chiron supposed to be using some sort of hybrid tech? Smiley

    I guess it is - but that i8 is a 3 cylinder while that Chiron is supposed to own 16 of them Smiley


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Bugatti Chiron believed to have 290 mph / 467 kph top speed

    New (unconfirmed) details have emerged about the highly-anticipated Bugatti Chiron set to receive its world premiere in Geneva next March.

    A report coming from the Czech Republic cites an undisclosed source that took part in a presentation organized by Bugatti for potential customers. It seems the Veyron replacement will have 1,500 horsepower and 1,107 pound-feet (1,500 newton meters) of torque generated by an evolution of the quad-turbocharged W16 8.0-liter engine featuring electrical assistance.

    The report goes on to specify the Chiron will run the 0-62 miles per hour (0-100 kilometers per hour) sprint in an amazing 2.2 seconds and will be capable of hitting a maximum velocity of 290 mph (467 kph). These astonishing figures have apparently convinced more than 130 customers to place an order for what will be the fastest car ever.
    Production will allegedly be limited to 500 units and Bugatti will assemble 100 cars per year, so the model’s life cycle will stand at five years. As far as pricing is concerned, the report mentions it will kick off at $2.19M (€2M / £1.47M). This probably refers strictly to the coupe as the Targa version will probably cost significantly more once it will come out around 2018.

    It should be mentioned the rumored 500-unit production run likely includes the open-top derivative and this five-year life cycle is half compared to the Veyron's lengthy 10-year, 450-unit run.
    Taking into account the Chiron will go public in Geneva, maybe Bugatti will show the new hypercar online in February.

             
            
                                        
                


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    They should've made it go 300 mph (so close already) angel


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    Amazing if true 

    Really looking forward to seeing this car at Geneva..


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Only needs another 153 hp to make 300mph...


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    A close friend is a depositor and will attend a special Geneva showing/event.  I will attend the Show press days--not the special event--but will post some impressions from my friend if appropriate.  

    if you have a spare 2 million, this is a no lose investment...


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    How is it a no-lose investment? Check out the prices on Veyrons. Some are easily $500K under MSRP, probably even more. I remember a few years ago you could get one for $875K.


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    A good friend made over 25 per cent profit on sale of a 918 and a P1, after holding each less than a year...


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Grant:

    They should've made it go 300 mph (so close already) angel

    My first thought!!!


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    The 300 mph will come with the SS version 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    noone1:

    How is it a no-lose investment? Check out the prices on Veyrons. Some are easily $500K under MSRP, probably even more. I remember a few years ago you could get one for $875K.

    In 09, a brand new one was offered in a London auction for half off. 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Grant:

    They should've made it go 300 mph (so close already) angel

    The tire development was, again, a real challenge as far as I heard. Another 10 mph may not sound much but it would  have required some real upgrades (thermodynamics, tires, aerodynamics, etc.). How do I know? Well, a Porsche guy who knows another Porsche guy Smiley knows another Porsche guy who apparently assisted in engineering the car. Smiley

    For every little speed increase over 430 kph, they had to fight though huge obstacles. This is not a tuner car which hits a speed record once. This car needs to be able to hit the top speed all the time and without any issues regarding stability, braking, aerodynamics, tires or cooling. 

    I wonder how much loss Bugatti makes this time on each car. Smiley

    Actually, VW should give them away for free to good sports car customers. Buy three Porsche and three Lamborghini at a time and you get a free Chiron on top. Smiley Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    What does a P1 and 918 have to do with anything? Veyrons have never commanded a premium. I've never seen one for sale over list.

    The Veyrons are never sold out, so very few people are willing to drop $2M on a car that's someone else's spec when they can just go order their own.


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Guess we have differing viewpoints.  


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Wonderbar:

    Guess we have differing viewpoints.  

    For once I think @noone1 is right Smiley. The Veyron has never commanded a premium.


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    crayphile:
    Wonderbar:

    Guess we have differing viewpoints.  

    For once I think @noone1 is right Smiley

    Smiley


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    No problem, folks, I am only reporting what my friend did with a 918 and P1, and why my friend chose to be a Chiron depositor.  I will say that many exclusive cars trade privately, and auction sales and other public offerings may not indicate real transactions. Also, as i remember, many folks said that 918s and P1s did not hold their value either.  So let's wait and see--i am happy to be wrong if the Chiron is a bust...


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    He might be able to make a nice profit if he manages to secure an early spot. 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    crayphile:
    Wonderbar:

    Guess we have differing viewpoints.  

    For once I think @noone1 is right Smiley. The Veyron has never commanded a premium.

    Well, it took them 10 years to sell 450 cars, and, clearly, they weren't at peak production all that time (peak of 81 cars in 2007), so demand wasn't that strong, and, probably, pretty much anyone who actually wanted a Veyron, and was able to afford one, was able to get one, which wouldn't exactly lead to anyone paying a premium for a used one. 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

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    Bugatti Chiron revealed: 1,480 hp and 0-62 mph in under 2.5 seconds http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1102596_bugatti-chiron-revealed-1480-hp-and-0-62-mph-in-under-2-5-seconds


     
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