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    the-missile:

    looks like the real stuff angry

    So, almost no changes at allSmileySmiley


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    it is a 911...Smiley

    it will be like front bumper, new lights, new rear bumper, new rear lights...bonnet & under the hood.Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    I was afraid it would get this front bumper. Looks a bit boring to me. 


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    ...looks like a significantly longer front boot for the new 992? Smiley


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    What facelift? 


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    They go back to have those lines on top of the hood. Like on the old 963. Interesting are those wider wheel arches. Looking forward to understand how they deal with it in the final product. 

    As we all know, Porsche is keeping their body/frame always for two build iterations. So we knew that the 992 will be a "bigger facelift" instead of a brand new car. I hope that the next car will be a more tremendous update. Maybe increased carbon fiber usage in the chassis? I mean, we are talking about 7 years from now. Until then the cars are more likely all to have a Autonomous Level 4 mode. I also think we will see a lot of EV components until then. Means- next generation must be a bigger upgrade in any sense.

     


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:

    What facelift? 

    Remember last time when Porsche marketing stressed new exterior door handle design, so anything new is under the ever blotting shape.

     


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    RC:

    What facelift? 

    Remember last time when Porsche marketing stressed new exterior door handle design, so anything new is under the ever blotting shape.

     

    Porsche is like Apple. They change a tiny fart and make a big boom about. So expect minor instead of major steps!


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Lars997:

    They go back to have those lines on top of the hood. Like on the old 963. Interesting are those wider wheel arches. Looking forward to understand how they deal with it in the final product. 

    As we all know, Porsche is keeping their body/frame always for two build iterations. So we knew that the 992 will be a "bigger facelift" instead of a brand new car. I hope that the next car will be a more tremendous update. Maybe increased carbon fiber usage in the chassis? I mean, we are talking about 7 years from now. Until then the cars are more likely all to have a Autonomous Level 4 mode. I also think we will see a lot of EV components until then. Means- next generation must be a bigger upgrade in any sense.

     

    The 992 is based on a completely new base - not just a facelift... It looks like a minor facelift, though Smiley


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    Gauss:

    I was afraid it would get this front bumper. Looks a bit boring to me

    And that's un understatement . My first reaction when I saw the photo : I could never again buy a new Carrera 


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Lars997:
    CGX car nut:
    RC:

    What facelift? 

    Remember last time when Porsche marketing stressed new exterior door handle design, so anything new is under the ever blotting shape.

     

    Porsche is like Apple. They change a tiny fart and make a big boom about. So expect minor instead of major steps!

    I could argue that you are wrong but then, we'd have to conduct a very long discussion about it and the weekend is close, so... Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    MKSGR:
    Lars997:

    They go back to have those lines on top of the hood. Like on the old 963. Interesting are those wider wheel arches. Looking forward to understand how they deal with it in the final product. 

    As we all know, Porsche is keeping their body/frame always for two build iterations. So we knew that the 992 will be a "bigger facelift" instead of a brand new car. I hope that the next car will be a more tremendous update. Maybe increased carbon fiber usage in the chassis? I mean, we are talking about 7 years from now. Until then the cars are more likely all to have a Autonomous Level 4 mode. I also think we will see a lot of EV components until then. Means- next generation must be a bigger upgrade in any sense.

     

    The 992 is based on a completely new base - not just a facelift... It looks like a minor facelift, though Smiley

    Guys, just wait. There are no real photos out there in the wild yet. 


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Gnil:
    Gauss:

    I was afraid it would get this front bumper. Looks a bit boring to me

    And that's un understatement . My first reaction when I saw the photo : I could never again buy a new Carrera 

    I agree - the horror Smiley


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    it is just like 6 months to wait.

    they will propose something interesting for sure.kiss


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Last night when I was driving from the airport back home, a 992 mule was overtaking me. Car was hardly camouflaged.  Looks very wide and bullish. The rear lights looked different (lights on) compared to the 991. Had an aggressive look. Had the spoiler up, which was build all around, more integrated as today. Had the car only 1 min. ahead of me, I was on the left lane with apprx. 200km/h but he was passing by with much higher speed. Also - the car sounded very very noisy. Sorry - couldn't make pictures, everything went too fast. 


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    992 Turbo spied with Production Body.

    More photos here (https://www.motor1.com/news/228267/2019-porsche-911-turbo-spied/)

    porche-911-turbo-new-spy-photos.jpg
    porsche-911-turbo-new-spy-photos.jpgI suppose a reveal for the 992 Carrera´s might happen in the next 3/4 months?

     

    Regards.

     

     


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    I'm very happy that they're bringing back the continuous rear light strip. 


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    The car I did see had less camo at the rear. 

    However - like this one here, it was insanely wide


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    So was it the Turbo ? The above pics looks like the Turbo .

     

    The car is insanely wide ! I wonder if those flat parts on the fender will stay . Looks a bit like add ons

    But even on the  spy pics of the Carrera's it is clear the was will be much wider then the current one .


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    992 Turbo spied with Production Body.

    More photos here (https://www.motor1.com/news/228267/2019-porsche-911-turbo-spied/)

    porche-911-turbo-new-spy-photos.jpg
    porsche-911-turbo-new-spy-photos.jpgI suppose a reveal for the 992 Carrera´s might happen in the next 3/4 months?

     

    Regards.

     

     

    This is not the production body...


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Turbo could come earlier than in previous new generation model introductions. Not at the same time with the first models, the Carrera and Carrera S though.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    I just found this pic: Check the car in the front. Thats the car I did see! Number plate 133 - it looks like not having camouflage on top of the vender. And again - Vender is really wide. Also, the exhausts are two of them looking like on a Audi RS6/7. It might be a Carrera. The car I seen was super noisy, sounded very loud. Still could hear it after it was that far ahead of me that I hardly couldn't see it anymore.

     


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.

    If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.


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    noone1:

    Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.

    If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.

    Not the final thing, don't worry. Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:
    noone1:

    Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.

    If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.

    Not the final thing, don't worry. Smiley

    But it is funny to imagine it looking like that. I wonder what extremes they could go to ugly up the mules so that the final product looks ‘perfect’ (I.e. just like the last one +1% 1963 911)  

    The Turbo will no longer try to keep up with the others with top end or max HP.  (Actually stopped 10 years ago) It will be happy to be a 0-60 or 100 beast  and serve up benchmark daily driver status. Which is a perfect place to be if you want volume sales.   Look for Lamborghini to take up the HP and top speed wars  

     


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC - Any news on the rumored new manual transmission? Will it be launched with the  992 or be part of the model refresh?


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Perhaps we will finally see the Porsche 960 launched. 


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Leawood911:
    RC:
    noone1:

    Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.

    If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.

    Not the final thing, don't worry. Smiley

    But it is funny to imagine it looking like that. I wonder what extremes they could go to ugly up the mules so that the final product looks ‘perfect’ (I.e. just like the last one +1% 1963 911)  

    The Turbo will no longer try to keep up with the others with top end or max HP.  (Actually stopped 10 years ago) It will be happy to be a 0-60 or 100 beast  and serve up benchmark daily driver status. Which is a perfect place to be if you want volume sales.   Look for Lamborghini to take up the HP and top speed wars  

     

    Correct and why the Huracan replacement is said to go with a carbon fiber tub design.  This makes the Audi R8 a difficult proposition, from a cost standpoint, and why its demise is imminent; however, platform sharing with the Aventador replacement is more likely, in the mold of McLaren’s approach.  


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    Leawood911:
    RC:
    noone1:

    Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.

    If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.

    Not the final thing, don't worry. Smiley

    But it is funny to imagine it looking like that. I wonder what extremes they could go to ugly up the mules so that the final product looks ‘perfect’ (I.e. just like the last one +1% 1963 911)  

    The Turbo will no longer try to keep up with the others with top end or max HP.  (Actually stopped 10 years ago) It will be happy to be a 0-60 or 100 beast  and serve up benchmark daily driver status. Which is a perfect place to be if you want volume sales.   Look for Lamborghini to take up the HP and top speed wars  

     

    Correct and why the Huracan replacement is said to go with a carbon fiber tub design.  This makes the Audi R8 a difficult proposition, from a cost standpoint, and why its demise is imminent; however, platform sharing with the Aventador replacement is more likely, in the mold of McLaren’s approach.  

    Smiley Not sure about that carbon fiber tub design though, VW Group has long pockets but short arms. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    bobr:

    RC - Any news on the rumored new manual transmission? Will it be launched with the  992 or be part of the model refresh?

    Truth to be told, I heard that all 992 Carrera models (maybe with special edition exceptions) will be PDK only. GT models could get a manual version again, especially the GT3.


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