Crown

Board: Porsche - 911 - 991 Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    OFFICIAL: New Porsche Carrera T

    From the press release:

    Less is more – the new Porsche 911 Carrera T

    Stuttgart. With the 911 Carrera T, Porsche is reviving the puristic concept behind the 911 T of 1968: less weight, shorter transmission ratios from the manual gearbox and rear-wheel drive with mechanical rear differential lock for an enhanced performance and intense driving pleasure. The new model’s unique appearance is based on the 911 Carrera and its engine delivers 272 kW (370 hp). The 911 Carrera T – at Porsche, “T” stands for Touring – also boasts several other equipment features that are not available for the 911 Carrera, including the PASM sports chassis as standard, lowered by 20 mm, the weight-optimised Sport Chrono Package, a shortened shift lever with red shift pattern and Sport-Tex seat centres. The rear-axle steering, which is not available for the 911 Carrera, is available as an option for the 911 Carrera T.

    Every aspect of the equipment in the 911 Carrera T is designed to optimise sportiness and deliver lightweight construction: The rear window and rear side windows are made from lightweight glass and the door trims feature opening loops. The sound absorption has been largely reduced. The rear seats have been omitted along with the Porsche Communication Management (PCM), though both are still available on request at no additional cost. The result of the lightweight construction measures: At an unladen weight of 1,425 kilograms, the two-seater is 20 kilograms lighter than a 911 Carrera with comparable equipment. 

    The 911 Carrera T will be available from January 2018 and can be pre-ordered now. In Germany, the price will be EUR 107,553 including VAT and country-specific features.

    A sporty design and unique appearance
    The design of the 911 Carrera T highlights the emotionality and sportiness of the coupé with rear-axle transmission. The body parts and wheels function as clear differentiating elements. At the front, the 911 Carrera T features an aerodynamically optimised front spoiler lip, and the Sport Design exterior mirrors are painted in Agate Grey Metallic. From the side, the new model is easily recognisable thanks to its 20-inch Carrera S wheels in Titan Grey. The “911 Carrera T” logos represent another distinctive feature at the side. The rear view is characterised by the slats in the rear lid grille, the Porsche logo, the “911 Carrera T” model designation in Agate Grey and the sports exhaust system provided as standard, with centrally positioned tailpipes painted in black. The exterior colour options are Black, Lava Orange, Guards Red, Racing Yellow, White and Miami Blue, as well as the metallic colours Carrara White, Jet Black and GT Silver. 

    A puristic interior concept and new interior package
    The appearance of the passenger compartment also has a sporty and puristic emphasis. The driver enjoys black, four-way, electric sports seats with a seat centre in Sport-Tex fabric, while the headrests feature a “911” logo stitched in black. This new Carrera T model also comes with the option to choose full bucket seats for the first time. Steering actions are completed via the GT sports steering wheel with leather rim, and the mode switch provided on the steering wheel as standard allows the driver to select different driving programmes. The shortened shift lever with shift pattern in red remains exclusive to the 911 Carrera T. The decorative trims on the dashboard and doors are black, as are the door opening loops. A new addition is the T interior package, which creates an even sportier look with the contrasting colours of Racing Yellow, Guards Red or GT Silver. These colours can be used to add visual accents on various interior components, such as the seat belts, the “911” logo on the headrests, the door opening loops or the centres of the Sport-Tex seats.

    Improved weight-to-power ratio plus enhanced performance 
    The six-cylinder flat engine with a displacement of three litres and twin turbocharging generates an output of 272 kW (370 hp) and a maximum torque of 450 Nm, delivering between 1,750 rpm and 5,000 rpm. The weight-to-power ratio has been improved to 3.85 kg/hp, ensuring enhanced performance and more agile driving dynamics. Thanks to a shorter rear axle ratio and mechanical differential lock, the 911 Carrera T can sprint from zero to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds – 0.1 seconds faster than the 911 Carrera Coupé. The model reaches the 200-km/h limit in just 15.1 seconds. Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) is also available as an option on the Carrera T, enabling the vehicle to reach 100 km/h in 4.2 seconds, and 200 km/h in 14.5 seconds. Both transmission variants enable a top speed of over 290 km/h.
     

     P17_0893_a3_rgb.jpg

    unnamed.jpg

    unnamed (1).jpg

    P17_0873_a3_rgb.jpg

    P17_0871_a3_rgb.jpg

     

     

     

     

     

     


    --

     

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    P17_0867.jpg

    P17_0889.jpg

    P17_0866.jpg

    P17_0870.jpg

    P17_0872.jpg

     


    --

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but man, starting at 110K for a 370 hp 911. That really is a lot of money for this car.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    992 can’t be far away!

    come on Porsche you can do so much better than this!


    --

    Tesla Model S P100D & Model X P90D & 2016 BMW i8 & 2017 Sept 991.2 GT3 ordered. 2020 Porsche Mission E on order


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Amazing......"red" lettering on the shift knob...what will they think of next???


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Shorter gears, yes. Mechanical limited slip diff...ok but what  percentage? 20 inch wheels and pasm.....heavy.

    Did they have a meeting yet to decide to offer red, silver and yellow steering wheels? indecision 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    JimFlat6:

    Shorter gears, yes. Mechanical limited slip diff...ok but what  percentage? 20 inch wheels and pasm.....heavy.

    Did they have a meeting yet to decide to offer red, silver and yellow steering wheels? indecision 

    I assume it’s the 7spd with a lower final drive?  First gear must be very low and close to unusable...


    --

     

    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

     They leave out the rear seats and the PCM and call it "lightweight construction". 20 Kilos less, "lightweight construction". mail

    This is so lame. enlightened

    ...

    The 911 Carrera T will be available from January 2018 and can be pre-ordered now. In Germany, the price will be EUR 107,553 including VAT and country-specific features.

    ...


    Anybody ordered yet? 


    --

    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    20 kgs lighter but no PCM ? with PCM same weight again ? WTF ?


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I guess the lightweight construction is the lighter rear 3/4 glass and reduction of soundproofing..It’s not going to be a lot!


    --

    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    enlightened I expected more ........ specially not that 7 gear box 


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    utter rubbish and a complete rip-off, anyone who buys this is a mug Smiley


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    That is a really, really cool move by Porsche. Back to basics, back to their core. Well done, except for the box indeed! I'm a fan nontheless. Smiley


    --

     

    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I'm inclined to agree - bit of a tough crowd around here.  I'm not sure what people were expecting?  A cheap 911R with back seats?  As far as parts-bin cars go, this is definitely one of the more interesting, and as Porker says - at least the aspirations are in the right direction.  Seems like it's 10k more than a base model, and some inclusive bits and pieces offset that partially.


    --

    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    EnglishManInNY:

    992 can’t be far away!

    come on Porsche you can do so much better than this!

    They can, it's called the 911 R and GT3 Touring, it's not supposed to be their ultimate offer...


    --

    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    ..of course you can't actually buy either of them any more 


    --

    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    DaveGordon:

    ..of course you can't actually buy either of them any more 

    Is that the case for the GT3 Touring?


    --

    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I really like the concept they are trying to pull, a basic cheap Carrera version of the 911R or GT3Toruing, but to me that concept is not there because of the engine, unllike the 911R and the GT3Touring, this has a turbocharged 3L with a completely different character than the purist driver's car concept calls for. Maybe if they would of come out with this car during the 991.1 cycle with the atmospheric carrera engine, it would of been a different story, and probably been a sought after 911 Carrera version as second hand later on.


    --

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Porker:
    DaveGordon:

    ..of course you can't actually buy either of them any more 

    Is that the case for the GT3 Touring?

    The dealers I spoke to told me GT3 is sold out - Touring or otherwise..


    --

    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Who would buy the T instead the S? Cannot understand the positioning.


    --

    2016 Cayman GT4 - 1992 964 Carrera 2 - 2016 Macan S Diesel - 2013 Mini Cooper S


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Mikla:

    Who would buy the T instead the S? Cannot understand the positioning.

    Not a good offer indeed.

    A good offer? This car, no other options (other than color choices) and 89k. A word from Porsche.

    For 107k? Why not get a 991.2 Carrera instead? There are tons of cars around, prices are good and you may even find a slightly used one with full options for good money.


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    RC:
    Mikla:

    Who would buy the T instead the S? Cannot understand the positioning.

    Not a good offer indeed.

    A good offer? This car, no other options (other than color choices) and 89k. A word from Porsche.

    For 107k? Why not get a 991.2 Carrera instead? There are tons of cars around, prices are good and you may even find a slightly used one with full options for good money.

    The point of this car is exactly to offer the opposite, the antidote to a full option 991.2 Carrera. 


    --

    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Porker:
    RC:
    Mikla:

    Who would buy the T instead the S? Cannot understand the positioning.

    Not a good offer indeed.

    A good offer? This car, no other options (other than color choices) and 89k. A word from Porsche.

    For 107k? Why not get a 991.2 Carrera instead? There are tons of cars around, prices are good and you may even find a slightly used one with full options for good money.

    The point of this car is exactly to offer the opposite, the antidote to a full option 991.2 Carrera. 


    But for this it is way too expensive. Smiley


    --

    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    This car (with the rear LSD, shorter gearing, PSE, etc) will offer significant more enjoyment at the wheel than a 991S, but you have to be a manual fan or else you won't see it, and will not be as practical (no rear seats) or as fast in a straight line so its not for everyone. But I can see the appeal of both versions to different people. The only problem for me is the lack of atmospheric engine which kind of ruins the concept it was shooting for.


    --

     

    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    they should have put in the 6 speed manual from the R/GT3 and left the wheels at 19" .. that would have saved more weight.

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Porker:
    RC:
    Mikla:

    Who would buy the T instead the S? Cannot understand the positioning.

    Not a good offer indeed.

    A good offer? This car, no other options (other than color choices) and 89k. A word from Porsche.

    For 107k? Why not get a 991.2 Carrera instead? There are tons of cars around, prices are good and you may even find a slightly used one with full options for good money.

    The point of this car is exactly to offer the opposite, the antidote to a full option 991.2 Carrera. 

    Listen, I know we have our differences here in the forum but I don't consider you to be dumb, so you can't be seriously falling for Porsche's obvious play here. Smiley The 911 T is too expensive. Period.

    This is no antidote for a full option 991.2 Carrera (hint: an antidote for a full optioned 991.2 Carrera would be a less optioned Carrera Smiley) but a clever marketing trick, which apparently...works. Smiley

    Porsche could do much better, for this kind of money they could have offered at least 20 hp more (390 hp would have been nice and a perfect "middle",  a simple software update plus maybe an improved intake would have suffiiced), the magnesium roof from the GT3 RS and other lightweight parts from the GT models.

    For 89k, this car would have been perfect. No options, only three colors (black, yellow, red), no comfort features, PCM optional for full money, rear seats optional for free. Trust me, it would have maybe cannibalized Boxster/Cayman sales but I doubt it would have hurt 911 sales.


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I agree it is expensive, but the same goes for the entire 991 range imo. I don't find the 911 T any more overpriced than I do the 991 Turbo S, for example. Unlike the GT-models I assume you can negotiate a decent discount on these, I can't imagine it being very popular. 

    I simply like the ethos behind it.


    --

    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Porker:

    I agree it is expensive, but the same goes for the entire 991 range imo. I don't find the 911 T any more overpriced than I do the 991 Turbo S, for example. Unlike the GT-models I assume you can negotiate a decent discount on these, I can't imagine it being very popular. 

    I simply like the ethos behind it.

    I understand what you mean and yes, you would be right if Porsche would have done this the "proper" way. 

    Nobody expects a 1200 kg street legal 991.2 Carrera T but at least they could have tried harder in various ways.

    Or...make it cheaper. Smiley

    Sometimes, a certain product doesn't have to produce the same gain margin as others. Sometimes a product just needs to remind people about the qualities and traditions of a brand. In my opinion, Porsche has failed to do that with the 911 T. Smiley This car could have been huge. Instead, it "just" became another model in the Porsche model family.

     


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Does the fact that it has rear wheel steering make it interesting?

    You can't have that on a basic carerra.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I agree with all the critics. I think they missed an opportunity. Base Carrera with 390 hp and -50 kg, even if a bit more expensive would have gotten my praise. This is just a parts bin job and they should have saved the name “911T” for something better.


    --

    White 991.2 GT3, V260 March 2018


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017) 1/3/19 8:54 AM
    Porker
    417207 5218
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA 12/30/18 7:55 PM
    RCA
    327617 2018
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 12/8/18 8:33 AM
    Joost
     
     
     
     
     
    214898 1083
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 1/21/19 8:49 AM
    bridggar
    213056 2773
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 1/21/19 10:21 AM
    RCA
    139289 2523
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 1/21/19 10:18 AM
    RCA
    42133 581
    AMG Sticky Mercedes E63 S AMG (2018) - Short Review (updated on a regular basis) 1/16/19 10:53 PM
    Leawood911
    39412 383
    Porsche Sticky Paint protection film 9/25/18 6:14 PM
    throt
    15078 121
    Porsche Sticky Child seats in a 991 11/29/18 3:43 PM
    RCA
    14341 35
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 992 Carrera Cabriolet 1/17/19 3:54 PM
    Lars997M
    4377 43
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 718 T (Boxster & Cayman) 12/29/18 7:17 PM
    spudgun
    3614 27
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S 1/4/19 7:02 PM
    Topspeed
    485860 4255
    Porsche 992 (Next 911 generation 2019/2020) Thread Closed 11/29/18 11:38 AM
    RCA
    308954 3195
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 12/31/18 2:19 AM
    DJM48
    284713 2598
    Porsche Cayman GT4 1/21/19 9:34 AM
    RCA
    272172 2656
    Ferrari 488 GTB/GTS 1/17/19 8:13 PM
    GoHardGT3RS
    194468 1789
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo and Turbo S 1/23/18 12:27 AM
    RCA
    193156 1074
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 1/14/19 8:04 PM
    TB993tt
    188429 3331
    Others Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016 model) - Review (updated Feb 13th 2017) 12/17/18 12:42 PM
    RCA
    155726 2491
    Porsche Boxster Spyder (981) 8/31/18 10:25 AM
    WAY
    144077 757
    Ferrari Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor 5/22/18 9:16 PM
    RCA
    112581 789
    Others VW caught cheating emissions tests 5/3/18 7:52 PM
    CGX car nut
    107419 871
    Porsche Porsche Mission E - the future of Porsche? 1/21/19 12:26 AM
    4trac
    94780 1318
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 12/7/18 10:15 PM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    68169 673
    Porsche UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne 2/6/18 2:13 PM
    RCA
    57986 423
    Others Tesla Roadster 1/21/19 10:15 AM
    RCA
    51537 1571
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models 11/3/18 11:09 AM
    bluelines
    47901 477
    Others Tesla Model X Thread Closed 2/23/18 3:41 PM
    RCA
    43267 1122
    AMG AMG GT R 11/30/18 4:10 PM
    RCA
    42755 605
    Lambo Aventador and SV 11/19/18 8:31 AM
    RCA
    40302 472
    274 items found, displaying 1 to 30.