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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Whoopsy:

    Hence why Porsche repackaged the 'base' car as a Carrera T, that doesn't sound like a base car anymore 

     All of the 991 models are fast enough and handle well enough for street use. Get what you like, even the newest RR Evoque is as fast as that vintage holy of holies 71 911S. Any new 991 in most hands will seldom see its upper limits used.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Whoopsy:

    Hence why Porsche repackaged the 'base' car as a Carrera T, that doesn't sound like a base car anymore 

    You said it... Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    WAY:

    I’m now at a point in my life where my 2 seaters like GT3/GT4/Spyder just isn’t practical enough to be used even once a month, and the whole speed thing just isn’t that important on the road anymore. So the Carrera T really excites me and I think it’s a good package, base or otherwise. 

    Why would you get a T over a rear-wheel drive GTS with manual? 


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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    bluelines:
    WAY:

    I’m now at a point in my life where my 2 seaters like GT3/GT4/Spyder just isn’t practical enough to be used even once a month, and the whole speed thing just isn’t that important on the road anymore. So the Carrera T really excites me and I think it’s a good package, base or otherwise. 

    Why would you get a T over a rear-wheel drive GTS with manual? 

    Because I don’t need the extras that the GTS provides. If money grows on tree then of course you’d go for a GTS, but given the GTS is a whole M140i more expensive than the T here, I don’t see the sense in it for me. 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    price tag difference as simple as that.

    here in UAE, price difference between base T and base GTS is 19,000 Euros. that's a lot of options...Smiley


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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I agree that base 911 has more than enough speed for daily commute. 

    Happy for those that will own a 911T, or any 911.


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    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S
     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Targa Tim:

    I agree that base 911 has more than enough speed for daily commute. 

    Happy for those that will own a 911T, or any 911.

     

    Oh come on, your standard has dropped that low? Smiley


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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Some reviewers whom I respect have shown a preference for the character of the base engine (feels more like NA motor).  I haven’t tried any of the 3.0tt yet...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Whoopsy:
    Targa Tim:

    I agree that base 911 has more than enough speed for daily commute. 

    Happy for those that will own a 911T, or any 911.

     

    Oh come on, your standard has dropped that low? Smiley

     

    Quite the opposite, my skill have improved so much that I am now fast in any car Smiley


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    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S
     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Targa Tim:
    Whoopsy:
    Targa Tim:

    I agree that base 911 has more than enough speed for daily commute. 

    Happy for those that will own a 911T, or any 911.

     

    Oh come on, your standard has dropped that low? Smiley

     

    Quite the opposite, my skill have improved so much that I am now fast in any car Smiley

    Believe it or not but this could actually be true...I feel the same. Smiley

    Of course I'd still prefer a car with lots of power but power isn't on the top of my list anymore. Maybe second. Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    WAY:

    I’m now at a point in my life where my 2 seaters like GT3/GT4/Spyder just isn’t practical .....and the whole speed thing just isn’t that important on the road anymore. So the Carrera T really excites me and I think it’s a good package, base or otherwise. 

    went through that phase two decades ago , where trying to get from point A to point B ( on our world famed scenic local weekend drive roads)  as " spiritedly " as possible just shortened the period of having fun , as well as a giving a sense of passive teleportation once there due to neccesary focused " tunnel vision " used for minimizing risks along the way

    it more fun at this point for me  to " enjoy the ride " when behind the wheel , so how a car feels to the hands , on the seat and even a chassis'  sporty vibrations ( not to mention sound ) at 3-5/10ths is more imporatant than at 8/10ths in the same spot  ... plus the side benefit of better enjoying our iconic local views of Monterey/Carmel Pacific Ocean shores , winding redwood forest roads minutes above my home in the heart of Silicon Valley or Napa wine country touring ...all within 60-90 minutes !


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    a) 991 Carrera GTS " Club Coupe " :  painted Club Blau 

     

         ( orig owner ; PCA 60th Anniv Club Coupe Registry ;  1 of 60 ) 

    b) Carrera 4 Cabriolet :  triple blue 

       (  surf to snow road warrior ) 

        


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    RC:
    Targa Tim:
    Whoopsy:
    Targa Tim:

    I agree that base 911 has more than enough speed for daily commute. 

    Happy for those that will own a 911T, or any 911.

     

    Oh come on, your standard has dropped that low? Smiley

     

    Quite the opposite, my skill have improved so much that I am now fast in any car Smiley

    Believe it or not but this could actually be true...I feel the same. Smiley

    Of course I'd still prefer a car with lots of power but power isn't on the top of my list anymore. Maybe second. Smiley Smiley

    New cars are way too fast to enjoy. If you hit the throttle and instantly achieve 60mph then it is just no fun anymore. From all my cars I loved the 997C2 X51 the most so far. It was just right. On country rows you could Rev it and switch it through some gears and still almost road legal on the way. New cars are too fast. Two factors: 1st - don't feel the speed and 2nd - if you want to feel it you are way above whats legal. 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Perhaps you see now why I chose a C2.


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    991 Carrera Black Edition, XC90 Black\Black - 2 kids, 1 dog


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    bridggar:

    Perhaps you see now why I chose a C2.

    I always did! Smiley


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Lars997:
    bridggar:

    Perhaps you see now why I chose a C2.

    I always did! Smiley

    + 1  

    On public roads we have come to a point where is less is more 

    If I had to buy a Carrera , it would probably  be the T  ( for strictly road use ) 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Lars997:
    bridggar:

    Perhaps you see now why I chose a C2.

    I always did! Smiley

    + 1  

    On public roads we have come to a point where is less is more 

    If I had to buy a Carrera , it would probably  be the T  ( for strictly road use ) 

    OK - and now we are back to the topic. The T makes sense but it lacks the image. It is the same problem what the Cayman or Boxster has. Probably the best and most fun Porsche's out there. It is the image which keeps people away buying it. And the T is in the same league of being a great package with the wrong perception.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    But then...why not choose a GT3 Touring instead of the T? yes


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    GT3 Touring is of course the much better car , but also much, much more expensive ..... and probably not available anymore 

    I was talking in the Carrera range for a car used as a real DD and not tracked . 

    I am not sure the perception of the T is a problem . The general public will not see any difference and probably even think it is a very special model when they see the T inscription  . 


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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    RC:

    But then...why not choose a GT3 Touring instead of the T? yes

    I could buy a M2 here with the price difference Christian. Also, no rear seats on the touring!


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    All allocations for this year at my dealer are gone already and other people / customers ostensibly "complain" about non getting a slot...strange...


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    d997h:

    All allocations for this year at my dealer are gone already and other people / customers ostensibly "complain" about non getting a slot...strange...

    Clever marketing... Smiley

    I got myself a fantastic 991.2 GTS Convertible deal, I am pretty sure that some other GTS deals (not C4 though) are possible, maybe even close to the 911 T which apparently has high demand. No need to go for a 911 T instead. This may be valid for Germany only of course.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    How is selling fewer cars clever marketing?  Is the lack of T models supposed to drive people into buying other models they don't really want?


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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Reaaaaaally ? A GTS convertible ? No way ! Smiley C'mon, you spread the word quickly. Smiley ...

    Coming back to the "T" - at least in Germany, if and when, the "T" really becomes a success story - though  being a tweaked C2 only, then this would be good news. There are so many horse power - junkies out there nowadays, that a 370 hp base carrera is not really appreciated. Wait and see.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    well, would these T buyers alternativelyhave bought a C2 ? I doubt that (at least in Germany).


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    DaveGordon:

    How is selling fewer cars clever marketing?  Is the lack of T models supposed to drive people into buying other models they don't really want?

    Apparently, they need to move cars (991.2) to get rid of parts, keep 991.2 production still going and make room for 992...Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    RC:
    d997h:

    All allocations for this year at my dealer are gone already and other people / customers ostensibly "complain" about non getting a slot...strange...

    Clever marketing... Smiley

    I got myself a fantastic 991.2 GTS Convertible deal, I am pretty sure that some other GTS deals (not C4 though) are possible, maybe even close to the 911 T which apparently has high demand. No need to go for a 911 T instead. This may be valid for Germany only of course.

    We don’t even have lease deals in Australia for Porsche...


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    WAY:
    RC:
    d997h:

    All allocations for this year at my dealer are gone already and other people / customers ostensibly "complain" about non getting a slot...strange...

    Clever marketing... Smiley

    I got myself a fantastic 991.2 GTS Convertible deal, I am pretty sure that some other GTS deals (not C4 though) are possible, maybe even close to the 911 T which apparently has high demand. No need to go for a 911 T instead. This may be valid for Germany only of course.

    We don’t even have lease deals in Australia for Porsche...

    Smiley

    Here are some lease offers for Porsche cars in Germany (sorry, in German) but usually, you can get even better offers if you're not looking for the best selling model and/or if you're lucky:  https://www.sixt-leasing.de/porsche


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I'm seeing some special deals on 2017 991.2 S coupes in US that are less expensive than a T


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    2016 Porsche 991 Carrera GTS  Black with AeroKit Cup Package,  2017 Porsche Cayenne Platinum  Purpurite Metallic, New York


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    bobr:

    I'm seeing some special deals on 2017 991.2 S coupes in US that are less expensive than a T

    Well...here you go. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    THE 911 to have is a GT3 touring with PDK and rear seats (until a convertible version of it is made).

    Sadly that car does not exist...


     
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