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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    At a high enough level of abstraction, everything is the same. 


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    For me its not a kind of abstraction as I'm talking about the DETAILS and not about the design as a whole.
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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    While it's interesting to see what PAG is doing with the rear spoiler on the 991 Carrera models, personally I'm focussed on what will happen to the GT3 rear wing. I just loved the 997.2 GT3 rear wing. It was perfect IMHO.
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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    easy_rider911:
    While it's interesting to see what PAG is doing with the rear spoiler on the 991 Carrera models, personally I'm focussed on what will happen to the GT3 rear wing. I just loved the 997.2 GT3 rear wing. It was perfect IMHO.

     On the 996 + 997 they started with a ''boomerang'' looking wing to end with the beautiful wing only with the 996.2 or 997.2 model.

    I hope they stop this , as I like the .2 wings MUCH more .


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    J.Seven:
    pierre:

    One rebuild of the second engine, yeah...

    And yes, there's a design fault in the engine of the 996TT and 997TT (maybe it's been fixed now, dunno) that can have quite heavy consequences. But that's OT.


    Would be most interested to know what this design fault is? Can you make a new post with this info? I think many of us here would like to know. Thanks in advance.

    J.Seven

     My 996tt had a design fault in the intermediate shaft bolts that were coming undone and start knocking at idle etc. P fixed that on later 996s by changing to secured bolts. I had to do a similar engine rebuild as well (at same place!)

     


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    easy_rider911:
    While it's interesting to see what PAG is doing with the rear spoiler on the 991 Carrera models, personally I'm focussed on what will happen to the GT3 rear wing. I just loved the 997.2 GT3 rear wing. It was perfect IMHO.

     

    I concur; I think Porsche nailed it with the GT3 and the RS wing. Smiley


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    The latest Porsche 991 spy pics...

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_001.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_002.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_003.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_004.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_005.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_006.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_007.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_008.jpg

    in glorious High Definition!

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    2011 Porsche 911 Carrera...

    Following the model of generations 993, 996 and 997 as more car-innovation to the next IAA - exactly - the 991. This is illogical, although it is a logical, comprehensive development of the 911, the classic on its 50th Birthday (2013) and should keep in top shape and desirable. The main changes include wider track, four inch longer wheelbase and a shorter front overhang in favor of driving dynamics and comfort.

    The front seats move forward slightly, which creates more rear space. In addition to numerous lightweight construction also carry an electric power steering, a revised engine peripherals and a start-stop system helps reduce fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. Of course, in turn, is a power boost from the boxer engine, which is expected to move by 20 to 30 hp. Optical retains its characteristic silhouette, but with a smaller tail lights in the rear and outside mirrors, wider, the future instead of sitting in the triangle window on the doors.

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_AMS-01.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_AMS-02.jpg

    2011-Porsche-911-Carrera_AMS-article-link

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    I really hope that AMS has got the rear tail lights wrong. They look way too thin aesthetically - all wrong IMvHO - I prefer the 997.2 look more than this artistic impression.
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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     The best rendering is the red one a few posts ago 


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     In the last spy pics we can see how much more then on the 997 the front wheel arches stick out. That will give the car a very nice shape 

    And this car looks very low...maybe the -20 mm option Smiley


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Gnil:

     In the last spy pics we can see how much more then on the 997 the front wheel arches stick out. That will give the car a very nice shape And this car looks very low...maybe the -20 mm option Smiley

    -- 997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


     The photografer took the pics while car was turning, it seems like a wide long turn, that´s why it looks low.

    I don´t believe AMS nail it on the rear design, for sure it´s something similar to this pic, but much more balanced.
     
    J.Seven

    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    GT:
    J.Seven:
    pierre:

    One rebuild of the second engine, yeah...

    And yes, there's a design fault in the engine of the 996TT and 997TT (maybe it's been fixed now, dunno) that can have quite heavy consequences. But that's OT.


    Would be most interested to know what this design fault is? Can you make a new post with this info? I think many of us here would like to know. Thanks in advance.

    J.Seven

     My 996tt had a design fault in the intermediate shaft bolts that were coming undone and start knocking at idle etc. P fixed that on later 996s by changing to secured bolts. I had to do a similar engine rebuild as well (at same place!)

     

    There we go:  http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/20190577/Engine_design_fault_intermediate_shaft_bolts/page1.html


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    More rear space in the 991 will make it a huge seller... If true.


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    This appeared  on AutoWeek today...

     

    Porsche is planning to reveal a new concept car in its return to the Detroit auto show next month.

    Secrecy surrounds the concept, but AutoWeek sources suggest Porsche will signal its intention to produce a new halo supercar based on the same underpinnings as its early 918 Spyder, which was recently confirmed for production by 2013.

    Absent from the Detroit show in recent years, the German carmaker says it will mark its comeback to Cobo Hall on Jan. 10 with the unveiling of a “spectacular new concept that points towards a future road-going model.”



    Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20101203/DETROIT/101209959#ixzz17HhENArz

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     hmm i think it will be just the 997 gt3rsr


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_AMS-01.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991-Carrera-S_AMS-02.jpg


    These pictures cannot be accurate but rough approximations.

    For example the front lights in the picture are exact copies of the 997.2 Dynamic Lights, It's out of the question to carry over these exact lights on a brand new model.


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    ...   with BBS FI  ( and rear calipers on the wrong side )   Smiley

    Porsche-5 misha BBS FI.JPG

     


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    SmileySmiley


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    bobr:

    This appeared  on AutoWeek today...

     

    Porsche is planning to reveal a new concept car in its return to the Detroit auto show next month.

    Secrecy surrounds the concept, but AutoWeek sources suggest Porsche will signal its intention to produce a new halo supercar based on the same underpinnings as its early 918 Spyder, which was recently confirmed for production by 2013.

    Absent from the Detroit show in recent years, the German carmaker says it will mark its comeback to Cobo Hall on Jan. 10 with the unveiling of a “spectacular new concept that points towards a future road-going model.”



    Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20101203/DETROIT/101209959#ixzz17HhENArz

    Porsche-new-Supercar.jpg

    ...could be the Porsche 929 concept? Smiley

    Porsche-new-Supercar-929.jpg

    ...article from Auto Zeitung...

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Hope it looks better in real life than this overdesigned Audi R8/918 concept....


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     Panamera Coupe maybe?


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Misha011:

    ...   with BBS FI  ( and rear calipers on the wrong side )   Smiley

    Porsche-5 misha BBS FI.JPG

     


    just too longSmiley


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    how about now ?

    1291722236058Porsche-5 misha BBS FI.JPG


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     No new shots just  a compilation of them

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThRoXPd_7jA&feature=recentu


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Nice work Misha, thanks.  If the car looks like this, it will be terrific.  I especially like the more sloping front nose, and am beginning to get used to the small flip tail spoiler.  I doubt the rear lights will look like this, but I understand this is just a rendering for now. 


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Thanks Wonderbar .  This is what I 'see' under the camo .  One thing for sure - real 991 will be terrific on look and engineering too .


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Wonderbar:

    Nice work Misha, thanks.  If the car looks like this, it will be terrific.  I especially like the more sloping front nose, and am beginning to get used to the small flip tail spoiler.  I doubt the rear lights will look like this, but I understand this is just a rendering for now. 

     

          Wonderbar,  thanks for your input on rear lights - you are right , they are more likely to look something like this .

    Porsche-5 misha BBS FI 02.JPG


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Wonderbar:

    Hope it looks better in real life than this overdesigned Audi R8/918 concept....

    What I really fear is that Porsche brings in the future a mid engine sportscar based on the R8/Gallardo platform.Smiley

    BlueflameSmiley


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Maybe it won't look like a 911, but when it drives like my recent R8...Smiley

    After 16 years of porsche, this car is completely different, but fuuuuuuun!

    I'm impressed.

    And, oh yes, in the future i'll be buying porsche again, but i'll never look down on an Audi!

    Great car.


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