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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    RC:

    No front license plate, interesting choice and completely illegal in Germany. 


    And the only way the fronts of modern Ferrari lookm good unfortunately. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Rossi:
    RC:

    No front license plate, interesting choice and completely illegal in Germany. 


    And the only way the fronts of modern Ferrari lookm good unfortunately. Smiley

    True... Not that the owner risks any serious legal repercussions but being stopped by the police always means losing time.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Autocar test

     


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    having the popcorn ready indecision


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    the Alpine is nr 3 angel It is a hell of a fun car !!!


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    This test is useless, there was no R8... angrysmiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Rossi:

    This test is useless, there was no R8... angrysmiley

    no manual GT3...Smiley so no proper driver


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    1. Alpine A110: Michelin Pilot Sport 4

    2. Aston Martin Vantage: Pirelli P Zero

    3. Audi R8 RWS: Pirelli P Zero

    4.BMW M2 Competition: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    5. Ferrari 488 Pista: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R

    6. Ford Fiesta ST: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    7.Jaguar XE SV Projects: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    8. Lotus Exige Sport 410: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    9. McLaren 600LT: Pirelli P Zero

    10.Porsche 911 GT3 RS: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    With such a mixed bag of very different tires, that comparison is pretty much useless broken heart


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Topspeed:

    1. Alpine A110: Michelin Pilot Sport 4

    2. Aston Martin Vantage: Pirelli P Zero

    3. Audi R8 RWS: Pirelli P Zero

    4.BMW M2 Competition: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    5. Ferrari 488 Pista: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R

    6. Ford Fiesta ST: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    7.Jaguar XE SV Projects: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    8. Lotus Exige Sport 410: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    9. McLaren 600LT: Pirelli P Zero

    10.Porsche 911 GT3 RS: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    I thought all 600LT came on Trofeo R?  They made a special version just for that car and the one I sat in tonight had them...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Topspeed:

    1. Alpine A110: Michelin Pilot Sport 4

    2. Aston Martin Vantage: Pirelli P Zero

    3. Audi R8 RWS: Pirelli P Zero

    4.BMW M2 Competition: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    5. Ferrari 488 Pista: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R

    6. Ford Fiesta ST: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    7.Jaguar XE SV Projects: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    8. Lotus Exige Sport 410: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    9. McLaren 600LT: Pirelli P Zero

    10.Porsche 911 GT3 RS: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2


    Damn, there was an R8, I should check my spectacles... Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    This is exactly why I stopped buying magazines......(get them now electronically free of charge) indecision smiley


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Best value in this group, when everything is considered and when someone would have to choose just one car, is the M2 Competition with the Alpine a close second.

    The GT3 RS appears very expensive compared to the very exclusive McLaren, given that the 600LT is a more bespoke car compared to the converted 911. And the Porsche gets low marks "on the road" even compared to the Pista and it is far behind the McLaren on this criterion.


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Rossi:

    This test is useless, there was no R8... angrysmiley

    There was but they used the RWS. Smiley

    Wait until they put the new R8 Performance to the test... Smiley (a little birdie told me that this car is more than 10 seconds faster on the Nordschleife than the "old" one).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Grant:
    Topspeed:

    1. Alpine A110: Michelin Pilot Sport 4

    2. Aston Martin Vantage: Pirelli P Zero

    3. Audi R8 RWS: Pirelli P Zero

    4.BMW M2 Competition: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    5. Ferrari 488 Pista: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R

    6. Ford Fiesta ST: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

    7.Jaguar XE SV Projects: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    8. Lotus Exige Sport 410: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    9. McLaren 600LT: Pirelli P Zero

    10.Porsche 911 GT3 RS: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    I thought all 600LT came on Trofeo R?  They made a special version just for that car and the one I sat in tonight had them...

    Ya, it's weird.

    Also in the article they mentioned that Ferrari had 6 sets of tires in carbon wheels (3 Cup2 and 3 Cup2 R ("soon-to-be-homologated")) .

    Here is says Trofeo R Smiley

     

    They also mentioned that GT3 RS Cup2 R tires weren't in the best condition when they did the lap time. It could go 1-2secs faster. In that image it says Cup2. Smiley

    Amateurs Smiley


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Seriously? The Pista was driving on Trofeo R and the 600LT on PZeros? This comparison is a joke. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    and the Alpine on M S4 and still arrived 3rd in appreciation , ahed of the GT3 , the R8 ..., did I mention that this car is a super product  indecision


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Gnil:

    and the Alpine on M S4 and still arrived 3rd in appreciation , ahed of the GT3 , the R8 ..., did I mention that this car is a super product  indecision


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    Of course it is... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    RC:
    Gnil:

    and the Alpine on M S4 and still arrived 3rd in appreciation , ahed of the GT3 , ...., did I mention that this car is a super product  indecision


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    Of course it is... Smiley

     Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    😂😂😂😂😂


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Grant:

    I thought all 600LT came on Trofeo R?  They made a special version just for that car and the one I sat in tonight had them...

    Default is the Trofeo R but you can spec P-Zero as a non-cost option. Odd choice for McLaren to send a Zero-shod car to such a test.


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Gnil:
    RC:
    Gnil:

    and the Alpine on M S4 and still arrived 3rd in appreciation , ahed of the GT3 , ...., did I mention that this car is a super product  indecision


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     

    Of course it is... Smiley

     Smiley

    Joking aside, I'm not sure how many of you know Jean Pierre Kraemer from JP Performance but he did a very nice YouTube video on his Audi R8 (he owns many other cars, incl. a Lamborghini Aventador) with the cons and pros. 

    He claims that the Audi R8 is in the top 3(!) best cars and that from all sports cars he knows, it has the best gearbox.

    He is a well known tuner and car expert, also has his own racing team (911 GT3 R).

    If you understand German, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pct9XOifp2k


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    RC:

    He claims that the Audi R8 is in the top 3(!) best cars and that from all sports cars he knows, it has the best gearbox.

    I agree Smiley

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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Grant:
    RC:

    He claims that the Audi R8 is in the top 3(!) best cars and that from all sports cars he knows, it has the best gearbox.

    I agree Smiley

    Screen Shot 2018-11-09 at 6.47.59 AM.png

    Smiley


    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Grant:
    RC:

    He claims that the Audi R8 is in the top 3(!) best cars and that from all sports cars he knows, it has the best gearbox.

    I agree Smiley

    Screen Shot 2018-11-09 at 6.47.59 AM.png

    Manual is too slow...for romantics only. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    RC:
     

    He claims that the Audi R8 is in the top 3(!) best cars and that from all sports cars he knows, it has the best gearbox.

    Does he mention the names and his ranking of the top 3 best cars?

    Sorry I cannot follow his narrative in German.


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    reginos:
    RC:
     

    He claims that the Audi R8 is in the top 3(!) best cars and that from all sports cars he knows, it has the best gearbox.

    Does he mention the names and his ranking of the top 3 best cars?

    Sorry I cannot follow his narrative in German.

    Unfortunately not but I think he loves the GT3 as well...also the 918. So not many cars left. Smiley


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    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    RC:
    reginos:
    RC:
     

    He claims that the Audi R8 is in the top 3(!) best cars and that from all sports cars he knows, it has the best gearbox.

    Does he mention the names and his ranking of the top 3 best cars?

    Sorry I cannot follow his narrative in German.

    Unfortunately not but I think he loves the GT3 as well...also the 918. So not many cars left. Smiley

    Definitely the GT2 RS as well... this and the R8 for its perfection, the Nissan GT-R for its character and the Corvette Z06 for its „manliness“. Smiley



    Re: Ferrari 488 PISTA

    Mr. Harris sounds a bit disillusioned, no? yes


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