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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    d997h:

    That is not what I would call efficiency. One engine just for a couple of cars... ?

    +1

    Agreed. It would make the engine more unique than the one in the GT3/RS...


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    d997h:

    That is not what I would call efficiency. One engine just for a couple of cars... ?

    Most efficient would be to use the 6flat Turbo from the CarreraS (not to mentione a tuned version of the 4pot 718 engine Smiley), but I recall Porsche claiming that the engine doesn't fit into the midengined car's engine bay. Also the GT4 track crowd probably prefers a NA engine anyway ?

    I expect the 718 Spyder/GT4 to be some kind of a 981 "Facelift" rather than something really new. A 718 Spyder with a real motorsport engine would be something I would have a closer look at - if they just add displacement and horses I am not so sure (maybe still a different story for a GT4 track regular, but not so for a canyon carver Spyder).


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    The Spyder will have the NA motor from the GT4, why all these silly pointless speculations?


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Because I thought that the NA engine from the Carrera S had been discontinued ?


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Whoopsy:

    The Spyder will have the NA motor from the GT4, why all these silly pointless speculations?

    Which NA motor? You once posted that the GT4 is confirmed to get the 4.0l GT3 engine, then took that statement back. I guess this opened for confusion and speculation 


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    I initially thought it was the GT3 motor when I head 4.0L, as that was the only one at 4.0L.

    Then I realize it will be the existing one boring out to 4.0L

    Others have said it remains at 3.8L.

    I stand by my assessment that it will be the old 3.8L boring out to 4.0L. Cheaper to do it this way to achieve 420HP than hotrodding the old 3.8L.

     


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Whoopsy:

    I initially thought it was the GT3 motor when I head 4.0L, as that was the only one at 4.0L.

    Then I realize it will be the existing one boring out to 4.0L

    Others have said it remains at 3.8L.

    I stand by my assessment that it will be the old 3.8L boring out to 4.0L. Cheaper to do it this way to achieve 420HP than hotrodding the old 3.8L.

     

    and give the impression that you actually have the 4.0L motorsport like engine Smiley


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Well, I guess the CS will have the same engine. So at least as much motorsport as the GT3 indecision


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    the-missile:
    Whoopsy:

    I initially thought it was the GT3 motor when I head 4.0L, as that was the only one at 4.0L.

    Then I realize it will be the existing one boring out to 4.0L

    Others have said it remains at 3.8L.

    I stand by my assessment that it will be the old 3.8L boring out to 4.0L. Cheaper to do it this way to achieve 420HP than hotrodding the old 3.8L.

     

    and give the impression that you actually have the 4.0L motorsport like engine Smiley

     

    The old 3.8L is not a Motorsport engine, but it is a race proven engine. Many have raced the GT4CS without engine problems.

     


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Whoopsy:
    the-missile:
    Whoopsy:

    I initially thought it was the GT3 motor when I head 4.0L, as that was the only one at 4.0L.

    Then I realize it will be the existing one boring out to 4.0L

    Others have said it remains at 3.8L.

    I stand by my assessment that it will be the old 3.8L boring out to 4.0L. Cheaper to do it this way to achieve 420HP than hotrodding the old 3.8L.

    and give the impression that you actually have the 4.0L motorsport like engine Smiley

     

    The old 3.8L is not a Motorsport engine, but it is a race proven engine. Many have raced the GT4CS without engine problems.

    Unlike the old GT3 engine SmileySmiley


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Whoopsy:

    The Spyder will have the NA motor from the GT4, why all these silly pointless speculations?

    The new Spyder will be same as the GT4 but without a roof?


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Turbo4ever:
    Whoopsy:

    The Spyder will have the NA motor from the GT4, why all these silly pointless speculations?

    The new Spyder will be same as the GT4 but without a roof?

     

    Why would that be a surprise? It was basically this way too last time around.


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    when the new Spyder will be availble to order?


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Whoopsy:
    Turbo4ever:
    Whoopsy:

    The Spyder will have the NA motor from the GT4, why all these silly pointless speculations?

    The new Spyder will be same as the GT4 but without a roof?

     

    Why would that be a surprise? It was basically this way too last time around.

    Last time only the engine are the same but less HP for the Spyder and doesn't have the GT parts too.

    What about the brakes, chassis... etc this time?

    I would like to have a GT4 without roof.

     

     


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Since the Spyder never was a GT car and I don’t imagine it to being this time either, it won’t get GT parts. 10hp less than the coupe was always the case. Silly move by the marketing department to create a hierarchy between the models.


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    I hope Porsche got it right this time, since the 718 Boxster is more expensive than the Cayman now.


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    bluelines:

    Since the Spyder never was a GT car and I don’t imagine it to being this time either, it won’t get GT parts.

    I am not so sure about that - I can imagine there will be quite a price increase and by adding some GT parts the marketing department can rationalise the price increase Smiley Whether this would really add value to a Canyon Carver (as opposed to a track oriented car) is another question.....I actually like the "old" analogue sport suspension in the 981 Spyder. As this is not available anymore with the 718 models the 718 Spyder probably also will get a (S)PASM suspension - just like the GT4. In this case it may be not a far stretch also to throw in some GT3 suspension parts.


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    bluelines:

    Since the Spyder never was a GT car and I don’t imagine it to being this time either, it won’t get GT parts. 10hp less than the coupe was always the case. Silly move by the marketing department to create a hierarchy between the models.

    remember this time 718 is 1 family Smiley


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    the-missile:
    bluelines:

    Since the Spyder never was a GT car and I don’t imagine it to being this time either, it won’t get GT parts. 10hp less than the coupe was always the case. Silly move by the marketing department to create a hierarchy between the models.

    remember this time 718 is 1 family Smiley

    A 4-cylinder family? Smiley


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    More photos with very light camouflage

     

    https://www.motor1.com/news/262501/porsche-718-boxster-spyder-spied/

     

     


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Thanks for posting, xpto kiss Funny that the car is equipped with a red top. Years ago there was also a black 981 Spyder mule with a red top though this was never available for customer cars


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Ok I’m going to go put money down on this on the basis that Whoopsy is confirming this as NA engine! Also, the front is back with the same front end as the GT4? Yes!


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    No way this engine is normally aspirated, listen to the spy videos...


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    I think a particle filter could disguise the sound of the NA a little


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Boxster Spyder and Cayman GT4 will share engines, based on the traditional naturally-aspirated flat-six engine... a future classic Porsche!


    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    ag23:

    No way this engine is normally aspirated, listen to the spy videos...

     

    Think all you want that way.

     


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    ag23:

    No way this engine is normally aspirated, listen to the spy videos...

    It does not sound anything like a GT3 that is for sure Smiley

    Borderline too muted for a NA engine. Unless Grant is right about the filter (when was Grant ever wrong? Smiley)


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    bluelines:

    Borderline too muted for a NA engine. Unless Grant is right about the filter (when was Grant ever wrong? Smiley)

    If I’m right, it’s only because I learned to trust that Whoopsy is right indecision


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    Whoopsy, don’t get me wrong, I wish I am wrong, i want it to be Normally Aspirated...


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    Re: Boxster Spyder (981)

    ag23:

    Whoopsy, don’t get me wrong, I wish I am wrong, i want it to be Normally Aspirated...

     

    Then don't believe the Turbo rumours, and you ARE wrong.

    It is NA.

     


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