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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Good times for Porsche GT model lovers, I doubt we're going to see the same production numbers with future models.

    Probably depends on the success of EVs though, if they don't sell enough... 😉


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    RC:
    Regarding the GT2 RS: Remember when I said that everyone who seriously wants one will get one? Smiley It is still an amazing car but I think it is way overpriced. Smiley

    Not in the UK for the GT2RS, but I have just been informed that I have got a GT3RS allocation. Not clear whether they will let me do PTS though or the Weissach pack - probably not.. In which case I might end up with exactly the same spec as @nberry SmileySmiley Smiley. Suggestions welcome for alternatives.

    indecision

     Best car I have ever owned. Fantastic performance and eye candy to all. You won’t regret your purchase. kiss

    The rumored overproduction is exaggerated. If there are cars sitting in dealer showrooms it’s because they are asking for a substantial premium over MSRP. They will get it. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Dane:

    Latest News:
    - PTS available before the plant holidays
    - Rumor about a special edition with 550HP

    Source -> PFF (german Forum)

    Makes sense (like 997 RS 4.0).  This is my hope for the 550hp limited edition: 4.0L motor from the GT3R with 6 Individual throttles (first time on a road car since 1973) and redline around 9,400 rpm  Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:
    crayphile:
    RC:
    Regarding the GT2 RS: Remember when I said that everyone who seriously wants one will get one? Smiley It is still an amazing car but I think it is way overpriced. Smiley

    Not in the UK for the GT2RS, but I have just been informed that I have got a GT3RS allocation. Not clear whether they will let me do PTS though or the Weissach pack - probably not.. In which case I might end up with exactly the same spec as @nberry SmileySmiley Smiley. Suggestions welcome for alternatives.

    indecision

     Best car I have ever owned. Fantastic performance and eye candy to all. You won’t regret your purchase. kiss

    The rumored overproduction is exaggerated. If there are cars sitting in dealer showrooms it’s because they are asking for a substantial premium over MSRP. They will get it. 

    No it isn't but for Porsche GT fans, this is actually good news because more people will be able to own and drive one. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    MKSGR:
    Gnil:
     

    On the other hand, these cars are still the some of the very best cars to have . Not much comes close to the tactile and gut feeling you get in an '' old 991.2 GT3 RS '' , expect maybe the Performante and the Pista .  So , still one of the best car to buy ( on a '' normal'' budget ) 

    You are 100% correct Smiley However, we both know how many humans (with the money to also buy the car) can evaluate the driving experience and get to this conclusion... That's why they oversell by a factor of 5-10x, if you ask me...

    Speculators have messed up the numbers , and Porsche just keeps fueling in . Does not look like long term strategy . It will hurt at some stage . 

    Also Porsche is now thinking way too much about the general public and market . They want to be a more general brand , forgetting what is their DNA . Not sure this strategy is good on long term , once the big change into EV/autonomous/sharing car will happen 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Yep, that EV switch could hurt Porsche badly. Their products will be too similar to Audi I'm afraid but maybe I'm wrong.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    When the E-Tron is $75k, where does that leave the Macan EV in terms of price positioning? $100k? Then where does the $75k Taycan fit in there? And now we have a $42k Tesla Model Y to fight in the same field (or more precisely a $60k Model Y Performance)...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    RC:
    nberry:
    crayphile:
    RC:
    Regarding the GT2 RS: Remember when I said that everyone who seriously wants one will get one? Smiley It is still an amazing car but I think it is way overpriced. Smiley

    Not in the UK for the GT2RS, but I have just been informed that I have got a GT3RS allocation. Not clear whether they will let me do PTS though or the Weissach pack - probably not.. In which case I might end up with exactly the same spec as @nberry SmileySmiley Smiley. Suggestions welcome for alternatives.

    indecision

     Best car I have ever owned. Fantastic performance and eye candy to all. You won’t regret your purchase. kiss

    The rumored overproduction is exaggerated. If there are cars sitting in dealer showrooms it’s because they are asking for a substantial premium over MSRP. They will get it. 

    No it isn't but for Porsche GT fans, this is actually good news because more people will be able to own and drive one. Smiley

    The problem is not selling the new ones ( if at MSRP price ) The problem will be the 2nd hand market .  5000 991.1 + 5000 991.2  , that makes lots of cars that will need to find an owner and you still need to add the 997 etc....  

    Such cars are bought new or because they are collectors . If none of the criteria is meet , only  a handful of passionate who didn't have the money to buy new will get them . And that market is not so big . 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Just imagine what the resale value will be when a touring 4 seater PDK or a GT3 convertible hits the market...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    SciFrog:

    Just imagine what the resale value will be when a touring 4 seater PDK or a GT3 convertible hits the market...

    They will go up Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    RC:
    Regarding the GT2 RS: Remember when I said that everyone who seriously wants one will get one? Smiley It is still an amazing car but I think it is way overpriced. Smiley

    Not in the UK for the GT2RS, but I have just been informed that I have got a GT3RS allocation. Not clear whether they will let me do PTS though or the Weissach pack - probably not.. In which case I might end up with exactly the same spec as @nberry SmileySmiley Smiley. Suggestions welcome for alternatives.

     

    You are the 2nd person that I know that JUST got a GT3RS allocation. It would seems Porsche GB got some extra to dole out.

    edit: PTS is available, but you have to be quick. My friend's order just got locked down for a July build.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I don't think it's bad at all that Porsche is "flooding" the market with GT models. There are more and more rich people everyday. Maybe 2.500 units is even a smaller number than 1.000 back in 1999.

    I remember the days when you could buy in Spain a 996 GT3 MKI for 48.000€. Commercial sportscars with 5-10 years old should not cost more than brand new


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Everyone who wants one should get one directly from Porsche with the specs they want, not be under the mercy of some greedy dealership or people.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Whoopsy:
     

    You are the 2nd person that I know that JUST got a GT3RS allocation. It would seems Porsche GB got some extra to dole out.

    edit: PTS is available, but you have to be quick. My friend's order just got locked down for a July build.

    How about Weissach pack?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Enzo II:

    I don't think it's bad at all that Porsche is "flooding" the market with GT models. There are more and more rich people everyday. Maybe 2.500 units is even a smaller number than 1.000 back in 1999.

    I remember the days when you could buy in Spain a 996 GT3 MKI for 48.000€. Commercial sportscars with 5-10 years old should not cost more than brand new

    Not more people interested in these cars than in 1999. Just more speculators. As soon as they realize the problem they will panic.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    MKSGR:
    Enzo II:

    I don't think it's bad at all that Porsche is "flooding" the market with GT models. There are more and more rich people everyday. Maybe 2.500 units is even a smaller number than 1.000 back in 1999.

    I remember the days when you could buy in Spain a 996 GT3 MKI for 48.000€. Commercial sportscars with 5-10 years old should not cost more than brand new

    Not more people interested in these cars than in 1999. Just more speculators. As soon as they realize the problem they will panic.

    Fully agrée. Just saw my former GT3 RS 991.1 for sale on AutoScout24. The guy who baught jt was a salesman from a Mazda garage . He baught it last July. Now he tries to sell it with 1000km more then when he baught it at 1.5k more then what he paid  but with new tire , disks and pads. . Bottom line is , he will loose money on what seems t be another try to speculate.  And it will be hard to find a buyer  . There are 58  991 for sale for  our small 8 million people market . 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    Whoopsy:
     

    You are the 2nd person that I know that JUST got a GT3RS allocation. It would seems Porsche GB got some extra to dole out.

    edit: PTS is available, but you have to be quick. My friend's order just got locked down for a July build.

    How about Weissach pack?

     

    That's a yes also. But I believe you have to hurry to lock in the PTS.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    The Weissach package is overpriced especially if you don't plan to track the car. Tastes are different but a different color hood and roof (black) disrupts the flow of the styling. Sorry Gnil.indecision


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Isn’t the RS itself an overpriced GT3, if you don’t plan to track the car? 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    spudgun:

    Isn’t the RS itself an overpriced GT3, if you don’t plan to track the car? 

    Yes it is. Therefore no reason to spend an $30,000 for the full Weissach package.

     I bought the RS because I love the styling and color. It doesn’t look like a run of the mill 911.kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    No probmes Nberry , as we said , we all have our own tastes and motives 

    .... my WP was «  only «  17.5k    I did not take the rims nor the magnesium roll cage. WP is not necessary 30k !

    People who ordered a second batch  one in Europe have received a form to sign informing them that for the moment Porsche can not give them any CO2 levels nor consumption .... 

    To me this sounds like for the moment the RS has not passed the WLTP certification  . And it has been said that is also the reason the GT4 is not on the market yet  

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    If I take the RS, I will go with the full WP. It is gorgeous and fit the spirit of the car very well. kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    New Zealand is buried in excess GT2 and RS allocations, the dealers are panicking, Sun gets a call a week.  As we roll into a  recession, great opportunities to buy low miles cheap will abound.Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    watt:

    New Zealand is buried in excess GT2 and RS allocations, the dealers are panicking, Sun gets a call a week.  As we roll into a  recession, great opportunities to buy low miles cheap will abound.Smiley

    After your comments regarding NZ roads, we can understand why.Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Hi Watt

    Good news re NZ GT supply

    In a few years a 991.2 RS will make an excellent track car. Hopefully by then you guys will have come to your senses and become our 7th state and I will not have to worry about import taxes  indecision

    David

    PS glad you are on the mend.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DJM48:

    Hi Watt

    Good news re NZ GT supply

    In a few years a 991.2 RS will make an excellent track car. Hopefully by then you guys will have come to your senses and become our 7th state and I will not have to worry about import taxes  indecision

    David

    PS glad you are on the mend.

    As an Aussie that is pretty funny...

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    the-missile:

    If I take the RS, I will go with the full WP. It is gorgeous and fit the spirit of the car very well. kiss

    I think a black RS with gold magnesium wheels might just tempt me out of my Olive. Just...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Porker:
    the-missile:

    If I take the RS, I will go with the full WP. It is gorgeous and fit the spirit of the car very well. kiss

    I think a black RS with gold magnesium wheels might just tempt me out of my Olive. Just...

    Porsche 911 GT3 RS looks awesome in black...

    Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    We do have one here in black with the WP, what you said is exactly what I said to the owner. It is gorgeous. Just missing the mag wheels indecision

     


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