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    Alfa Stelvio

    A new competitor for the Macan launched today at the LA show in range topping QV guise. This could be an interesting car as the Giulia QV has been receiving very positive reviews.

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-la-motor-show/alfa-romeo-stelvio-suv-revealed-la-motor-show

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    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    Since  I hate SUV don't know!!!, but it looks more like a sw than a SUV and it is positive. It is very fast indeed, 0-100 3.9!!!! that is impressive and 285kmh is impressive too. At least we cant say that the prestanda has not changed in alfa with their last cars.

    hope it will sell so maybe we will be able to see some more sport alfas soon


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    It is impossible these days to ignore the volume sales that SUV's generate so hopefully the Stelvio and it's rumoured larger sibling will help to rebuild Alfa's viability and allow them to develop sportier models such as a modern Gtv and Spider. Autocar had an interesting render last week of what the proposed Alfetta large saloon (5 series competitor) could look like. The current Alfa styling works well in this rendering IMHO.

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    xander71:

    Since  I hate SUV don't know!!!, but it looks more like a sw than a SUV and it is positive. It is very fast indeed, 0-100 3.9!!!! that is impressive and 285kmh is impressive too. At least we cant say that the prestanda has not changed in alfa with their last cars.

    hope it will sell so maybe we will be able to see some more sport alfas soon

    If they put the right price on it, it could be a success.

    If not...well...look at the Giulia QV...not really a bestseller I think (haven't seen a single car on the road in Germany and only one in Italy last summer...Giulia...not even the QV version).

    Went to the local dealer to look at his Giulia QV test car, not really impressed with the looks (the design is a shame for an Italian car company Smiley) or quality (mixed bag). Dealer also told me that car is in very low demand (the QV version, didn't ask about any other).

     


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    Only now I start to se some Giulia around here in Italy, and for my big surprise here in Bologna already 3 QV, I have to say that I like the Giulia, everybody are so positive on the way it handles. never tested one, but I would prefer it to an M3, maybe because my first car was a Duetto spider or maybe becuase it is faster...don't really don't know why I prefer it, but I would take an alfa with 510 hp...so fun....


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    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    Looks nice 


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    koko:

    Looks nice 

    +1 Smiley


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    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    Looks promising, need to see it in person though


    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    Off-topic: It is an impressive sight with our profile pics of two manly white GT4s indecision So few pixels, so much testosterone.


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    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    I rather like it. Looks to me they even managed to carry a few design cues from the 4C into the styling. I'm also not a SUV fan, but could warm to this given the need. Hope it does well, and, as others said, helps Alfa with other projects.


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    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    ISUK:

    It is impossible these days to ignore the volume sales that SUV's generate so hopefully the Stelvio and it's rumoured larger sibling will help to rebuild Alfa's viability and allow them to develop sportier models such as a modern Gtv and Spider. Autocar had an interesting render last week of what the proposed Alfetta large saloon (5 series competitor) could look like. The current Alfa styling works well in this rendering IMHO.

    Alfetta render.JPG

    I like where Alfa is heading, this SUV better have flat rear folding seats. Than I might actually consider one. 


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    Here's the original Alfa Matta SUV, most of you probably have never heard about it broken heart

    wink


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    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    good looking car.....but its an alfa than that's its problem.

    secondly, I really think that too many suv's are trying to be sports cars.

    I guess that why range rovers are selling in such large numbers as while they've become very luxurious they still have that utility car look to them.

    look at the interior of the stelvio....sports car. in an suv I want some space to put things.


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    Official ad for the car.

     


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    at least it looks different and has some personality


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    I find both Alfa SUVs pretty nice - would like to own the small one


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    Beautiful - I like it a lot. BUT - one major problem: This car is very tiny. It is still a Mini-SUV and not a proper SUV!


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    The Stelvio is around the size of the Macan. The next Alfa SUV will be larger and compete against the Cayenne.


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    Like it very much, good altrnative to VW Macan Smiley


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    prefer the look of the Macan though


    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    Atzporsche:
    ISUK:

    It is impossible these days to ignore the volume sales that SUV's generate so hopefully the Stelvio and it's rumoured larger sibling will help to rebuild Alfa's viability and allow them to develop sportier models such as a modern Gtv and Spider. Autocar had an interesting render last week of what the proposed Alfetta large saloon (5 series competitor) could look like. The current Alfa styling works well in this rendering IMHO.

    Alfetta render.JPG

    I like where Alfa is heading, this SUV better have flat rear folding seats. Than I might actually consider one. 

    If you like where Alfa is going, you like Audi too, as this is a photoshop of a C7 A6.  


    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    Hope the Alfa comeback works, its not easy to bring the dead back to life. One of their new models has to be a sales success, the Stelvio seems most likely to be it.


    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    ISUK:

    The Stelvio is around the size of the Macan. The next Alfa SUV will be larger and compete against the Cayenne.

    If it gets a Ferrari V8...well...why not? Smiley

    Looking at the Maserati Lavante however, I don't think Alfa Romeo needs to bother.

    The price will be e key factor here and Alfa Romeo's (quality) reputation is not that good in Germany.


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    RC:
    ISUK:

    The Stelvio is around the size of the Macan. The next Alfa SUV will be larger and compete against the Cayenne.

    If it gets a Ferrari V8...well...why not? Smiley

    Looking at the Maserati Lavante however, I don't think Alfa Romeo needs to bother.

    The price will be e key factor here and Alfa Romeo's (quality) reputation is not that good in Germany.

    It is a Ferrari derived V6.  Once one factors in the Chrysler, Dodge, and other undesirable components, why bother.  

    In the States, the Alfa dealer network is weak, as many Fiat dealers signed onboard early only to have no salable product either from Fiat or Alfa.  Many dealerships, including the one in downtown Chicago, are shuttered.


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    CGX car nut:
    Atzporsche:
    ISUK:

    It is impossible these days to ignore the volume sales that SUV's generate so hopefully the Stelvio and it's rumoured larger sibling will help to rebuild Alfa's viability and allow them to develop sportier models such as a modern Gtv and Spider. Autocar had an interesting render last week of what the proposed Alfetta large saloon (5 series competitor) could look like. The current Alfa styling works well in this rendering IMHO.

    Alfetta render.JPG

    I like where Alfa is heading, this SUV better have flat rear folding seats. Than I might actually consider one. 

    If you like where Alfa is going, you like Audi too, as this is a photoshop of a C7 A6.  

    Well but Audi has sh!t lazy and edgy exteriors.. this is the polar opposite with just some simple shapes and curved and a sexy brand grille


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    CGX car nut:
     

    It is a Ferrari derived V6.  Once one factors in the Chrysler, Dodge, and other undesirable components, why bother.  

    In the States, the Alfa dealer network is weak, as many Fiat dealers signed onboard early only to have no salable product either from Fiat or Alfa.  Many dealerships, including the one in downtown Chicago, are shuttered.

     

    You can't have read up on the engineering behind these new Alfa's. These are not parts bin models using other FCA brands. Both the Giula and the Stelvio are built on a brand new platform called Giorgio which shares nothing with Chrysler or Dodge.  The interiors are unique to the Alfa models and supplied by Faurecia who also supply to both BMW and the whole VW group. The suspension designs are new as well.

    If you consider just how far behind the market leaders Alfa has fallen in the last 10 -15 years in terms of both production volumes and the market segments they had retreated into it is clear that they have achieved an almost miraculous turn round in the very short gestation time taken to create a whole new engineering team and get the Giulia from drawing board to market . For the car to be regarded out of the starting blocks by the motoring media as being only slightly behind the likes of Audi, BMW and Mercedes, who don't forget have honed their small saloon models over multiple generations stretching back unbroken over 3 to 4 decades and through literally millions of examples built, is a very great achievement. The Giulia QF has actually beaten the M3 in a number of magazine comparisons now. It takes time to build a strong dealer network so it won't be achieved overnight but as long as the dealers in key US states perform to a good standard then the new cars will likely be a success.

    I'm happy to see a famous and important brand back in the game and finally offering competitive products that will surely only improve with time and ongoing development. Hopefully the Stelvio will become a strong seller and allow FCA to continue to invest in the Alfa model range renaissance. It would be great to see modern rear drive Gtv and Spider models brought back as competition for the TT and base 718 models.


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    ISUK:
    It would be great to see modern rear drive Gtv and Spider models brought back as competition for the TT and base 718 models.

    +100


    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    All for that... as long as they dont bring back understeer or sudden external lubrication.


    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    sfo:
    ISUK:
    It would be great to see modern rear drive Gtv and Spider models brought back as competition for the TT and base 718 models.

    +100

    Like I said...if the price is right... Alfa Romeo needs to regain customer trust and they can only attract customers if prices are right. If I can get a 510 hp SUV for under 80k and with attractive lease conditions, I could be tempted but I think we all know how much the Stelvio QV will cost. My guess is: slightly under 90k EUR base price. If they ask more than 90k, the Stelvio is dead before it even starts. For 79k or less I would get one tomorrow. Smiley


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    Re: Alfa Stelvio

    ISUK:
    CGX car nut:
     

    It is a Ferrari derived V6.  Once one factors in the Chrysler, Dodge, and other undesirable components, why bother.  

    In the States, the Alfa dealer network is weak, as many Fiat dealers signed onboard early only to have no salable product either from Fiat or Alfa.  Many dealerships, including the one in downtown Chicago, are shuttered.

     

    You can't have read up on the engineering behind these new Alfa's. These are not parts bin models using other FCA brands. Both the Giula and the Stelvio are built on a brand new platform called Giorgio which shares nothing with Chrysler or Dodge.  The interiors are unique to the Alfa models and supplied by Faurecia who also supply to both BMW and the whole VW group. The suspension designs are new as well.

    If you consider just how far behind the market leaders Alfa has fallen in the last 10 -15 years in terms of both production volumes and the market segments they had retreated into it is clear that they have achieved an almost miraculous turn round in the very short gestation time taken to create a whole new engineering team and get the Giulia from drawing board to market . For the car to be regarded out of the starting blocks by the motoring media as being only slightly behind the likes of Audi, BMW and Mercedes, who don't forget have honed their small saloon models over multiple generations stretching back unbroken over 3 to 4 decades and through literally millions of examples built, is a very great achievement. The Giulia QF has actually beaten the M3 in a number of magazine comparisons now. It takes time to build a strong dealer network so it won't be achieved overnight but as long as the dealers in key US states perform to a good standard then the new cars will likely be a success.

    I'm happy to see a famous and important brand back in the game and finally offering competitive products that will surely only improve with time and ongoing development. Hopefully the Stelvio will become a strong seller and allow FCA to continue to invest in the Alfa model range renaissance. It would be great to see modern rear drive Gtv and Spider models brought back as competition for the TT and base 718 models.

    Couldn't agree more, well said!


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