Crown

Board: Porsche - 911 - 997 - Turbo Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    I just received my Cargraphic Export Loud Exhaust Pipes today. Can anyone tell me what all is involved in changing out the exhausts? I'm a Mechanical Engineer, used to working on cars and bikes, so this doesn't look very difficult. I just don't need to learn the hard way if there are any tricks or surprises involved in changing out these exhaust pipes.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    TulsaTurbo said:
    I just received my Cargraphic Export Loud Exhaust Pipes today. Can anyone tell me what all is involved in changing out the exhausts? I'm a Mechanical Engineer, used to working on cars and bikes, so this doesn't look very difficult. I just don't need to learn the hard way if there are any tricks or surprises involved in changing out these exhaust pipes.



    From what I recall you will perhaps have to take off the rear bumper. Other thamn that, it's a simple job, same as on the 996TT.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    TulsaTurbo said:
    I just received my Cargraphic Export Loud Exhaust Pipes today. Can anyone tell me what all is involved in changing out the exhausts? I'm a Mechanical Engineer, used to working on cars and bikes, so this doesn't look very difficult. I just don't need to learn the hard way if there are any tricks or surprises involved in changing out these exhaust pipes.



    I can tell you that I had mine installed by the cargraphic dealer and he had to remove the rear bumper and the wheels. It took 4 hours to complete the installation. It was too much for me to do, so I let him do it.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    My AWE unit is coming in today. I am hoping to have enough time to install mine this weekend. I plan to do a photo essay for other DIY'ers

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    What made you decide to go with the AWE system? I have heard good things about the company from the guys at SharkWerks.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Careful guy's. I just read on another site an owner of a 997TT took his car in for a oil leak and Porsche service told him that since he has after market exhaust, they would not repair the car under warranty.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    in Europe your warrenty should not be void if you fit an aftermarket. The EU law states that if the equipment is of similiar or better quality than the OEM than there is no case to void your warrenty. That doesn't mean they won't try but at least there is some legislation in place to protect you.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    In that post he ended up going to another dealer with no issues.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    FWIW, the Mognuson-Moss Act states that an automaker in the US can't deny warranty coverage due to use of an aftermarket consumable part like a muffler, unless they prove the part caused the failure. I believe Ford tried to compel customers to use motorcraft parts or lose warranty coverage, they lost. Thanks EMG55

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    C4S Surgeon said:
    FWIW, the Mognuson-Moss Act states that an automaker in the US can't deny warranty coverage due to use of an aftermarket consumable part like a muffler, unless they prove the part caused the failure. I believe Ford tried to compel customers to use motorcraft parts or lose warranty coverage, they lost. Thanks EMG55



    You're welcome

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    cortonpark said:
    in Europe your warrenty should not be void if you fit an aftermarket. The EU law states that if the equipment is of similiar or better quality than the OEM than there is no case to void your warrenty. That doesn't mean they won't try but at least there is some legislation in place to protect you.



    I'm afraid this isn't quite right. Porsche usually refuses warranty repairs and then you have to sue them. Good luck.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    TulsaTurbo said:
    I just received my Cargraphic Export Loud Exhaust Pipes today. Can anyone tell me what all is involved in changing out the exhausts? I'm a Mechanical Engineer, used to working on cars and bikes, so this doesn't look very difficult. I just don't need to learn the hard way if there are any tricks or surprises involved in changing out these exhaust pipes.



    I wouldn't do it myself since my mechanic encountered a little problem (actually two problems) with some stuck bolts/screws (the excessive heat made them stuck pretty well and he almost destroyed one at the turbo charger and destroyed one at the rear pipes which luckily wasn't a big problem). If your dealer breaks it, he has to fix it. If YOU break it...well...

    The usual exhaust exchange job involves removing the rear bumper, the intercoolers (makes life easier) and also some hoses (intercooler, etc.) inside the engine bay.

    Regarding warranty issues: YES, any aftermarket mod, incl. an aftermarket exhaust can indeed void your warranty. My suggestion is: let the dealer get the exhaust for you (may cost you slightly more but in the end it is to your advantage) and do the install. When problems occur, I doubt that the dealer will easily blame you, especially since the exhaust can be removed immediately without a trace.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Careful guy's. I just read on another site an owner of a 997TT took his car in for a oil leak and Porsche service told him that since he has after market exhaust, they would not repair the car under warranty.



    do you know which dealer? my dealer knows I have an aftermarket exhaust and he is fine with it. He even changed an MAF for free on my modified boxster with intake and exhaust and the CEL was due to a faulty cone filter (far from OEM). It depends on the relationship you have with your dealer.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Get it done by the dealer...

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    RC said:
    Quote:
    TulsaTurbo said:
    I just received my Cargraphic Export Loud Exhaust Pipes today. Can anyone tell me what all is involved in changing out the exhausts? I'm a Mechanical Engineer, used to working on cars and bikes, so this doesn't look very difficult. I just don't need to learn the hard way if there are any tricks or surprises involved in changing out these exhaust pipes.



    I wouldn't do it myself since my mechanic encountered a little problem (actually two problems) with some stuck bolts/screws (the excessive heat made them stuck pretty well and he almost destroyed one at the turbo charger and destroyed one at the rear pipes which luckily wasn't a big problem). If your dealer breaks it, he has to fix it. If YOU break it...well...

    The usual exhaust exchange job involves removing the rear bumper, the intercoolers (makes life easier) and also some hoses (intercooler, etc.) inside the engine bay.

    Regarding warranty issues: YES, any aftermarket mod, incl. an aftermarket exhaust can indeed void your warranty. My suggestion is: let the dealer get the exhaust for you (may cost you slightly more but in the end it is to your advantage) and do the install. When problems occur, I doubt that the dealer will easily blame you, especially since the exhaust can be removed immediately without a trace.



    I went to the dealer this morning to have the oil changed (600 miles/1000 km) and was telling the service manager my weekend project was to install the Cargraphic exhaust. He says 'Since you already have it in for the oil change, why don't you just let us install the system?' YES!

    So ... the pipies are on! I picked up the car this evening. Unfortunately, it is/was pouring down rain so I didn't get much driving or a good feel for how the pipes sound. I can say, they are not 'LOUD"! They sound more like exactly what you would hope/expect to get from the factory.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    One more thing, I visited with the service technician and he said he had to remove the turbos (very tedius) to get the pipes on just right. He said he did NOT remove the rear bumper or the wheels.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    TulsaTurbo said:
    Quote:
    RC said:
    Quote:
    TulsaTurbo said:
    I just received my Cargraphic Export Loud Exhaust Pipes today. Can anyone tell me what all is involved in changing out the exhausts? I'm a Mechanical Engineer, used to working on cars and bikes, so this doesn't look very difficult. I just don't need to learn the hard way if there are any tricks or surprises involved in changing out these exhaust pipes.



    I wouldn't do it myself since my mechanic encountered a little problem (actually two problems) with some stuck bolts/screws (the excessive heat made them stuck pretty well and he almost destroyed one at the turbo charger and destroyed one at the rear pipes which luckily wasn't a big problem). If your dealer breaks it, he has to fix it. If YOU break it...well...

    The usual exhaust exchange job involves removing the rear bumper, the intercoolers (makes life easier) and also some hoses (intercooler, etc.) inside the engine bay.

    Regarding warranty issues: YES, any aftermarket mod, incl. an aftermarket exhaust can indeed void your warranty. My suggestion is: let the dealer get the exhaust for you (may cost you slightly more but in the end it is to your advantage) and do the install. When problems occur, I doubt that the dealer will easily blame you, especially since the exhaust can be removed immediately without a trace.



    I went to the dealer this morning to have the oil changed (600 miles/1000 km) and was telling the service manager my weekend project was to install the Cargraphic exhaust. He says 'Since you already have it in for the oil change, why don't you just let us install the system?' YES!

    So ... the pipies are on! I picked up the car this evening. Unfortunately, it is/was pouring down rain so I didn't get much driving or a good feel for how the pipes sound. I can say, they are not 'LOUD"! They sound more like exactly what you would hope/expect to get from the factory.



    Glad to hear it . I have 3 short clips of the cargraphic export and I will try to upload them later tonight or tomorrow.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    RC, I having my Cargraphic installed today by my local Porsche dealer. I checked with them and they said that it would not void my warrenty...but that could change if there is a major problem!! But I figured that it was the safest option to have my dealer fit it rather than somebody else. It's a risk but from what I've heard its worth it! If my warrenty is blown then thats life - can't keep the car in cotton wool and I knew the risks going into it. I guess you just have to try and reduce your risk but nothing is risk free

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    TulsaTurbo said:
    One more thing, I visited with the service technician and he said he had to remove the turbos (very tedius) to get the pipes on just right. He said he did NOT remove the rear bumper or the wheels.



    Crazy guy... Maybe he should read the Porsche manual for exhaust installs.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    where are the sound clips??..someone here whant to listen it!!


    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    also looking forward to the clip...thx

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    Super Darius said:
    where are the sound clips??..someone here whant to listen it!!





    Here you go: this is in "slow" mode as I forgot to press the sport button and sorry for the short separate clips and slight shaking (wife taping....) .

    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5b3a2c12-570c-4d31-b09b-989e001f6cda.htm

    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4de6fff6-4728-4bba-8231-989e00210544.htm

    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/71c39618-08d7-4bbf-b9bc-989e0022a17e.htm

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Is that the quiet version? Not really feeling it, I'm sure it sounds way better in person.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    thx...i think it sounds good...i guess youd need to hear them both consectively to really tell...and in person to make a buying decision

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    Quote:
    C4S Surgeon said:
    Is that the quiet version? Not really feeling it, I'm sure it sounds way better in person.


    no, this is the loud version and you're right the clips don't do it justice. it is really loud at full throttle but pretty tame at cruising speeds inside the car.

    Re: Cargraphic Exhaust Installation

    i think it sound goood!! really good!

    thanks!

     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017) 12/15/18 10:01 AM
    Na Mezger
    409751 5202
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA 12/13/18 8:47 PM
    Enmanuel
    324395 2007
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 12/8/18 8:33 AM
    Joost
     
     
     
     
     
    213327 1083
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 12/18/18 1:23 PM
    RCA
    199854 2685
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 12/16/18 8:54 AM
    GnilM
    128609 2443
    AMG Sticky Mercedes E63 S AMG (2018) - Short Review (updated on a regular basis) 12/6/18 3:34 PM
    RCA
    34312 321
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 12/18/18 11:40 AM
    Paulo_Rangel_Melo
    22477 349
    Porsche Sticky Paint protection film 9/25/18 6:14 PM
    throt
    14461 121
    Porsche Sticky Child seats in a 991 11/29/18 3:43 PM
    RCA
    13876 35
    Porsche 991 GT3 RS 1/9/18 1:43 PM
    Kimi
    527803 5816
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S 4/3/18 9:15 AM
    KresoF1
    484375 4254
    Porsche 992 (Next 911 generation 2019/2020) Thread Closed 11/29/18 11:38 AM
    RCA
    298185 3195
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 9/13/18 10:12 AM
    RCA
    281411 2589
    Porsche Cayman GT4 11/29/18 3:41 PM
    xpto
    267132 2622
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo and Turbo S 1/23/18 12:27 AM
    RCA
    192255 1074
    Ferrari 488 GTB/GTS 11/26/18 11:32 AM
    Rossi
    192017 1768
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 12/16/18 1:27 PM
    hunterone
    184194 3295
    Others Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016 model) - Review (updated Feb 13th 2017) 12/17/18 12:42 PM
    RCA
    152608 2491
    Porsche Boxster Spyder (981) 8/31/18 10:25 AM
    WAY
    143372 757
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016) 1/6/18 10:41 PM
    Wonderbar
    129136 1284
    Ferrari Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor 5/22/18 9:16 PM
    RCA
    112048 789
    Others VW caught cheating emissions tests 5/3/18 7:52 PM
    CGX car nut
    106831 871
    Porsche Porsche Mission E - the future of Porsche? 12/10/18 3:41 PM
    WhoopsyM
    90263 1252
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 12/7/18 10:15 PM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    67423 673
    Porsche UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne 2/6/18 2:13 PM
    RCA
    57542 423
    Others Tesla Roadster 12/18/18 8:25 AM
    RCA
    47653 1502
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Carrera GTS models 11/3/18 11:09 AM
    bluelines
    47179 477
    Others Tesla Model X Thread Closed 2/23/18 3:41 PM
    RCA
    43037 1122
    AMG AMG GT R 11/30/18 4:10 PM
    RCA
    42308 605
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017) 12/4/18 3:17 PM
    BiTurbo
    39815 650
    279 items found, displaying 1 to 30.