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    Need info on late 70s 911s

    I have recently become interested in the late 70s 911s, especially with the turbo body. I am starting to think about buying one of these next year when I graduate as my first P car. I know there are members here who own this car and many more who have owned or have driven these.

    If possible I would like your opinions of this model range, recommendations on a particular year/model etc. I've thought up a bunch of things I would like to know about but don't feel constrained to them. Please keep in mind that this will be my first Porsche.

    1. Overall Driving impressions: oversteer/understeer, tight/loose in corners, higher speed stability, body roll
    2. Performance: hp & torque ratings, 0-60,0-100 times, top speed
    3. Reliability at current time being that a 76 is now 30y.o.
    4. Driveability for daily driving as this WILL be a 365 days a year car.
    5. Upgradeablity: if its a base 911 is it difficult to put the widebody on it/turbo suspension

    Please, Please add in any other comments

    Re: Need info on late 70s 911s

    Anybody?

    Re: Need info on late 70s 911s

    I believe Grant has an older model he is working on...and I also think Mike Valentine (W8MM) knows a bit or two.
    Definately ask Jim (JimFlat6), he seems to have a broad knowledge of the older 911s and claims to have driven and owned quite a few.
    Hope this helps

    Re: Need info on late 70s 911s

    From that era, between the 911, 911S and 911 Carrera, shop around for a Carrera if you can.

    Don't get a Targa There is no real cure for older Targa roof leaks except to sell it and get a coupe.

    Avoid any car with a older model aftermarket car alarm or non factory body kit. The last thing you want to deal with is a old cars gremlinized electrical system and find out that no one who can fix the old model car alarm and you need a new wiring harness installed. And most aftermarket body kits were pretty shabby.

    Don't bother to add a wide body or Turbo look. You will just add weight, slow the car, need new wheels $$$ and lower its resale for later.

    By now few of these cars have stock motors with original emissions control systems intact. It may not matter in Canada, I do not know if it does.

    For that age 911, what is critical is overall body and interior condition, motor maintence, and a known history with recent service invoices.

    As for wich model and what year, The later the better. They did so many minor upgrades from year to year.

    I prefer 71-73 911s. They are more "tossable" and quicker.
    But If you want straightline speed in a mid to late 70's
    911 look for a European model non US spec carrera. They are around.

    As an example of why you want a 70's Euro spec Carrera or a US spec one with a built engine, a 1975 US spec Carrera had 155hp and factory 0-60 time of 8.4 seconds with a top speed of only 137. The late seventies cars really need at least 200hp to be any fun. For the US market, Porsche had a nightmare getting the cars emission legal with any power.

    A 1971 911S weighs 300lbs less, does 0-60 in 6 seconds and
    will easily hit 145mph, but they sell for twice to three times the money, but are twice the fun.

    Whatever you choose, get a inspection done by a Independent shop before you buy. Overall condition is everything. Have money ready to burn after you buy one. But with older Porsches, once you fix stuff, it stays fixed for many miles.
    Last year Porsche jacked up all of their prices on parts for their older cars. Be prepared for parts price shock.

    My advice is to not shop by model, but by the cleanest, best kept older 911 you can find for the money you can spend.

    They make great daily drivers. Keep in mind that these cars do not have power steering and will feel heavy and clumsy at low speeds, but as soon as you nail the gas, they change personality and get nimble.

    Re: Need info on late 70s 911s

    Quote:
    JimFlat6 said:
    From that era, between the 911, 911S and 911 Carrera, shop around for a Carrera if you can.

    Don't get a Targa There is no real cure for older Targa roof leaks except to sell it and get a coupe.

    Avoid any car with a older model aftermarket car alarm or non factory body kit. The last thing you want to deal with is a old cars gremlinized electrical system and find out that no one who can fix the old model car alarm and you need a new wiring harness installed. And most aftermarket body kits were pretty shabby.

    Don't bother to add a wide body or Turbo look. You will just add weight, slow the car, need new wheels $$$ and lower its resale for later.

    By now few of these cars have stock motors with original emissions control systems intact. It may not matter in Canada, I do not know if it does.

    For that age 911, what is critical is overall body and interior condition, motor maintence, and a known history with recent service invoices.

    As for wich model and what year, The later the better. They did so many minor upgrades from year to year.

    I prefer 71-73 911s. They are more "tossable" and quicker.
    But If you want straightline speed in a mid to late 70's
    911 look for a European model non US spec carrera. They are around.

    As an example of why you want a 70's Euro spec Carrera or a US spec one with a built engine, a 1975 US spec Carrera had 155hp and factory 0-60 time of 8.4 seconds with a top speed of only 137. The late seventies cars really need at least 200hp to be any fun. For the US market, Porsche had a nightmare getting the cars emission legal with any power.

    A 1971 911S weighs 300lbs less, does 0-60 in 6 seconds and
    will easily hit 145mph, but they sell for twice to three times the money, but are twice the fun.

    Whatever you choose, get a inspection done by a Independent shop before you buy. Overall condition is everything. Have money ready to burn after you buy one. But with older Porsches, once you fix stuff, it stays fixed for many miles.
    Last year Porsche jacked up all of their prices on parts for their older cars. Be prepared for parts price shock.

    My advice is to not shop by model, but by the cleanest, best kept older 911 you can find for the money you can spend.

    They make great daily drivers. Keep in mind that these cars do not have power steering and will feel heavy and clumsy at low speeds, but as soon as you nail the gas, they change personality and get nimble.


    All good advice....definitely stay away from modified cars, either engine or body work. The only true "turbo look" in the 70's was the actual Turbo. Stay away from the '75, bad news, thermal reactor exhaust headers,etc. The purest driving cars are the '71-'73 911S's. The '78-'83 911SC is also a good car.

     
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