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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    thierry:

    Guys,

    i changed my order yesterday to get the "signature lights" from gen 2 ( xenon with 4 leds around the lenses).

    i took PDLS as it is including then the black color into the lights. And it looks better with intense black metallic I. E chosen.

    but now I m still doubting : would it be better to take the LED ? The full black one, though crazy expensive (2.7k), is looking too much black in my opinion.

    but I still doubt ..... any advice ?

    Kreso, I know you are fan of black as well, I m interested to get your opinion :-).

    but you are obviously all welcomed to tell yours !

    rgds,

    You said you hardly drive at night . In that case I would go for the look of the .2 which is also a bonus because you save some cash .  If LED, then I would do the full black .

    Kreso  : Was your GT3 flat black ?  Was the problem the dirt ?  I love flat black but only when super clean and polished . As I am not big into car washing I probably should never order that color for my car .....


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I think the problem with flat black cars, that you can see every small scratch on it...


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Whoopsy:

    See, the grey wheels do looked good!

    Grey or black...silver is just wrong for this car and color. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Funny also how now that manual is offered again, that  some of these reviews praise the PDK .


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    And it hides all the shapes of the 911. I'd never go for black on a 911.

    For the current GT3, if you have the chance, I'd go for PTS. It helps your car stand out in what will probably be a huge production run, and you can at least spec a color of your liking. The range of standard colors feels really limited to me...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Are LED headlights lighter than Bi Xenons?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    sfo:

    Are LED headlights lighter than Bi Xenons?

    not lighter but they reach wider


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Lars997:
    sfo:

    Are LED headlights lighter than Bi Xenons?

    not lighter but they reach wider

    I think he's referring to the weight. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Porker:
    Lars997:
    sfo:

    Are LED headlights lighter than Bi Xenons?

    not lighter but they reach wider

    I think he's referring to the weight. Smiley

    Smiley I guess you are right.... I read "light....er" and wondered why not "brighter" Smiley

    LED should be lighter as the they don't need that starter Elco - but, hey, we are probably talking about 200 grams difference Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    would be interesting to see what the weight difference is


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Autocar review of GT3 now online...

    Link: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/gt3/first-drives/porsche-911-gt3-2017-review


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    sfo:

    would be interesting to see what the weight difference is

    Not much probably...a few kilogram maybe, at max. In my opinion the LED lights are slightly heavier (control unit) but difference should be under 5 kg, probably much less. Ridiculous.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Jethro set a 1:34.96 at Anglesey International.  Look at the other times:

    Rank Vehicle Driver Time  PS / KG

    1. BAC MONO Oliver Webb 1:31.00 284 / 540
    2. McLaren P1 Alexander West 1:34.25 916 / 1490
    3. McLaren 675LT Spider unknown 1:35.70 675 / 1368
    4. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997) Chris Harris 1:36.10 500 / 1360
    5. Ferrari 488 GTB unknown 1:36.90 670 / 1535
    6. TVR T350t Red Rose LW Cliff Jobson 1:37.00 380 / 1000
    7. McLaren 570S unknown 1:37.90 570 / 1462
    8. Porsche 911 GT3 (991) Chris Harris 1:38.10 476 / 1439
    9. Porsche 911 R (991) unknown 1:38.70 500 / 1373
    10. BMW M3 GTS Chris Harris 1:39.00 450 / 1543
    11. C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series Chris Harris 1:39.10 517 / 1748
    12. BMW M4 GTS unknown 1:40.40 500 / 1599
    13. Aston Martin V12 Vantage S Chris Harris 1:40.80 573 / 1665
    14. Jaguar F-Type SVR unknown 1:41.20 575 / 1797
    15. Honda NSX (Mk II) unknown 1:41.70

    581 / 1765

    http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/anglesey-international-gp
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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    That's extremely impressive. Can't almost not be correct?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Porker:

    That's extremely impressive. Can't almost not be correct?

    I don't know the track well enough to know if it was revised?


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    it just tells u how far the tiretechnology is compared to a couple of years ago - in one of the Reviews they spoke about the latest gen Cup 2 - so I would assume very much tailored to this car


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    the only difference is that Porsche probably will not Claim in SA that it's faster than XXX.....


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    If they use those new tires they had on the GT-R it would make sense why the car suddenly is 2 seconds better than the RS. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Tires are N1 Cup2 (used in RS)


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    They let them set lap times already? I thought it was just press day and no lap times were set.

    If 1:34.9 is correct, it shows you how much of the latest cars are just due to tires.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    BjoernB:

    it just tells u how far the tiretechnology is compared to a couple of years ago - in one of the Reviews they spoke about the latest gen Cup 2 - so I would assume very much tailored to this car

    You can bet - in the Sportauto review they point to the Cup2 tires used and indicate that they are good for nothing but a few fast laps on the track. Same as with the AMG GTR test. But then: I like if they use the same tires as on the GTR - at least we can then compare the published lap times again Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    sfo:

    would be interesting to see what the weight difference is

    Weight difference is identical to .1 for PDK and a few kilos lighter for Manual.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    nberry:

    I don't know how he got back there with the roll bars but he did and he is there.

    Kreso, Nick I am slowly coming around to the PCCB's but grey wheels always look dirty. On my .1GT3 after every drive I would clean them but they still looked dirty. I suspect that is why they made silver available.

    Silver was available on the .1 as well as a no cost.  I like the grey wheels because no need to clean after every drive.  They simply become darker grey with dust.  


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    There are supposedly ceramic coatings one can apply to wheels that makes brake dust easily wipe away - never tried it...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    vantagesc:
    nberry:

    I don't know how he got back there with the roll bars but he did and he is there.

    Kreso, Nick I am slowly coming around to the PCCB's but grey wheels always look dirty. On my .1GT3 after every drive I would clean them but they still looked dirty. I suspect that is why they made silver available.

    Silver was available on the .1 as well as a no cost.  I like the grey wheels because no need to clean after every drive.  They simply become darker grey with dust.  

    I had one of the early .1GT3's. I don't recall that silver was available. Had I known I would have certainly ordered them. That's the problem with early allocations. You miss out on some good options like being able to get deviated stitching starting in Nov and PTS in December. I could delay my allocation but none of this is all that important to me since I don't keep cars.Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    They do.... works well

    As the other gentlemen pointed out wheels just become darker grey and wipe off very quickly!


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    AFAIK silver GT3 wheels first became available on the R. Just platinum /black before that.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Porker:

    And it hides all the shapes of the 911. I'd never go for black on a 911.

    For the current GT3, if you have the chance, I'd go for PTS. It helps your car stand out in what will probably be a huge production run, and you can at least spec a color of your liking. The range of standard colors feels really limited to me...

    I agree. The palette of basic/option colours is dismal. For metallics it's entirely monochromatic aside from Sapphire and Graphite blues. So perfect for CH - don't even need the blues Smiley

    The dealer I spoke to reckoned the worldwide RS figure was over 7000, and the need to pay tor VW fines was a factor. Not sure non-RS production will be high though - seems people only want the RS now.


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