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    SPASM on 997.5

    Reading through all the stuff on the website and pdf's it seems that Porsche has made changes to PASM, and I'm not talking about the Sport (-20) PASM option, but the regular standard common or garden variety you find on the "S".

    Anyone have more detail on this?

    MTIA

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

    Porsche now offers PASM sports suspension as a special variant of the active suspension on the new 911 Carrera and 911 Carrera S Coupé models. This special suspension is intended for the particularly sporting and ambitious driver, replacing the former sports suspension with its conventional dampers featured on the previous models.
    Like the passive sports suspension so far, the new, active PASM sports suspension gives the car an even firmer and tauter ride, at the same time lowering the entire vehicle by 20 millimetres or 0.79". The big advantage of this new active suspension is the further improvement
    of performance on the road together with an even higher standard of motoring comfort.
    The active sports suspension is available together with the mechanical limited-slip differential, and may now be combined not only with the manual gearbox version, but also with PDK
    transmission as an excellent match for the PASM sports suspension.

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

    then the better make it both ways. i.e. a button to lift the car for helping to hop on the trailer etc...

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    intouch1 said:
    then the better make it both ways. i.e. a button to lift the car for helping to hop on the trailer etc...



    dont think the button will lift the car higher? just makes it more firmer.

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    spluff said:
    Quote:
    intouch1 said:
    then the better make it both ways. i.e. a button to lift the car for helping to hop on the trailer etc...



    dont think the button will lift the car higher? just makes it more firmer.




    they should add it. then again i think the previous post is wrong. to level a car you need air suspension. the 997 has oil suspension that firms up due to magnetic particle in the shocks. just like caddys magnaride.

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    intouch1 said:
    then the better make it both ways. i.e. a button to lift the car for helping to hop on the trailer etc...



    Is this what you had in mind ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWV4pjC-zoE


    Re: SPASM on 997.5

    I was asking about changes to the standard PASM, not the Sport -20 version...

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    Le Chef said:
    I was asking about changes to the standard PASM, not the Sport -20 version...



    further refined for the new model generation, giving the new 911 even greater smoothness combined with the same dynamic performance and response as before.

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    Le Chef said:
    I was asking about changes to the standard PASM, not the Sport -20 version...


    THis is what the Press Info says
    "The PASM suspension has also been upgraded for the new Porsche 911, with the springs and anti-roll bars modified for even greater comfort. This is made possible by fine-tuning the PASM control function, offering the occupants a smoother and more comfortable ride on bad roads in the ormal mode.
    In the sports mode PASM also provides smoother and more harmonious spring action without requiring the driver to make any concessions in terms of performance. The basic functions of PASM, on the other hand, remain the same as before, controllable dampers enabling the driver to choose from two suspension programs, either PASM Normal or PASM Sport.
    The normal mode gives the dampers a more comfort-oriented basic setting changing into a more sporting set-up as soon as the driver switches over to a more dynamic style of motoring. Particularly on long distances the occupants will therefore enjoy a significant increasein motoring comfort, with PASM filtering out small and medium bumps on the road even better than the standard suspension. The sports mode, by contrast, activates a harder damper control map for a very agile and dynamic style of motoring. And in comparison with the regular suspension, finally, PASM lowers the entire car by 10 millimetres or 0.39"."

    In short it is the same system, allegedly refined further.

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    intouch1 said:
    they should add it. then again i think the previous post is wrong. to level a car you need air suspension. the 997 has oil suspension that firms up due to magnetic particle in the shocks. just like caddys magnaride.



    No magnetic particles, just oil filled with electronic valving

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

    is this system better or worse than audis magnetic ride?

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    spluff said:
    is this system better or worse than audis magnetic ride?


    There were excellent comments about the ride of R8 with magnetic dampers. The original PASM didn't create so much enthusiasm in the Press. Can you draw a conclusion from that, though?

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

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    spluff said:
    is this system better or worse than audis magnetic ride?



    I think the magnetic ride is better and more firmer in the R8

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

    maybe the update will make it on par

    Buick AND SPASM

    Quote:
    "The PASM suspension has also been upgraded for the new Porsche 911, with the springs and anti-roll bars modified for even greater comfort. This is made possible by fine-tuning the PASM control function, offering the occupants a smoother and more comfortable ride on bad roads in the normal mode.
    In the sports mode PASM also provides smoother and more harmonious spring action without requiring the driver to make any concessions in terms of performance. The basic functions of PASM, on the other hand, remain the same as before, controllable dampers enabling the driver to choose from two suspension programs, either PASM Normal or PASM Sport.
    The normal mode gives the dampers a more comfort-oriented basic setting changing into a more sporting set-up as soon as the driver switches over to a more dynamic style of motoring. Particularly on long distances the occupants will therefore enjoy a significant increasein motoring comfort, with PASM filtering out small and medium bumps on the road even better than the standard suspension. The sports mode, by contrast, activates a harder damper control map for a very agile and dynamic style of motoring. And in comparison with the regular suspension, finally, PASM lowers the entire car by 10 millimetres or 0.39"."

    In short it is the same system, allegedly refined further.



    But does that mean soft and soggy and Buick-like, or something different?

    Re: Buick AND SPASM

    I gotta say that the Porsche propaganda on the updated PASM sounds like crap to me. Can anyone really say that they know what that babble means?

    If the 997 can be -20 mm and meet North American bumper height standards etc, and a LSD is now offered in NA, then why can't we in NA have the same -20 mm sport suspension (without PASM - but with LSD!) that Europe has had since 2006?!?!?!

    That drives me CRAZY. Personally, I'd much rather have a car WITHOUT PASM.

    Re: SPASM on 997.5

    Quote:
    spluff said:
    maybe the update will make it on par [with Magne-Ride]



    Let's wait and see. I have magne-ride on my '08 Vette and love it - the same as in the R8 and F-599.

     
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