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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    r3tract:

    Well that official announcement from Porsche states it was regular MPSC2 tyres.

    standard N-spec Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

    True but since they could use a newer compound mixture... Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    did you like the sound, i mean when compared to the GT3RS, say?


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    Does the GT2RS have the same suspension as the GT3? If so, I'd like to have the same setup in mine devil


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    No way those are the same Cup2 tires that they sell today.


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    noone1:

    No way those are the same Cup2 tires that they sell today.

    What makes you say that?  They are very sticky once up to temp, and they had the tyres in heater tents.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    I recently ran my 99GT3RS at Indianapolis Motor Speedway on the GP course at a Porsche Club HPDE.

    The tires were Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 with late 2016 mold dates, freshly installed with no prior heat cycles.

    The only banking help was in right turns ... accounting for the asymmetry in lateral forces recorded.

    The MPSC2 sticks pretty darn well!

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    I'll see your 1.72 and raise you 0.02 indecision 

    Kobalt has the record around here though IIRC..  I'm taking a moral victory due to my lesser rubber and wings 

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Next years track season loks promising.....smiley Combine this track monster with some guidiance from Manthey racing now in October and I might do a second or two on my personal best ?!kiss Will be worth every penny


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    The farmer:

    Next years track season loks promising.....smiley Combine this track monster with some guidiance from Manthey racing now in October and I might do a second or two on my personal best ?!kiss Will be worth every penny

    I passed at Manthey last month for a little upgrade Smiley. Are you going all the way with their suspensions ? 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAfTgvsJEv4

     
    kiss

     


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    Gnil:
    The farmer:

    I passed at Manthey last month for a little upgrade Smiley. Are you going all the way with their suspensions ? 

    What did you do???


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    Having swung by there with Gnil, they would be my #1 choice for any kind of track optimisation.


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    I'm going to discuss if anything is needed in there opinion when I see them, but in October my main focus is on my own driving skills, doing the Porsche racing experience that they handle. kiss

    Hate when people have supercars, but no skills, so will do everything I can to make sure I can use the "Monster" in a proper wayblush

    Later this autum I'm thinking of going down to Porsche exclusive to see what could be done in customizing the car and at the same time hopefully have some good input from Manthey. But from what I've heard so far, the car is quit good "as is". A step or two tougher then the GT3 RS and closer to the Cup car settings (as far as possible for a road car anyway).

    But my GT3 is optimized regarding camber and some other stuff, so I guess some modification will be needed on this car as well. But the GT3 has been going hard. One change of the engine (blowed the engine on Spa last year) three times change of front  pads, one time back pads and this week I had to change the front discs. THAT was not cheap, since I have cheramic breaks....mail But since I will drive Spa next week, it was a good thing I noticed it now. Spa without breaks is not to recommend. The new engine still drinks enormous amounts of oil, so let's hope it will hold together this year....yes


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    The farmer:

    I'm going to discuss if anything is needed in there opinion when I see them, but in October my main focus is on my own driving skills, doing the Porsche racing experience that they handle. kiss

    Hate when people have supercars, but no skills, so will do everything I can to make sure I can use the "Monster" in a proper wayblush

    Later this autum I'm thinking of going down to Porsche exclusive to see what could be done in customizing the car and at the same time hopefully have some good input from Manthey. But from what I've heard so far, the car is quit good "as is". A step or two tougher then the GT3 RS and closer to the Cup car settings (as far as possible for a road car anyway).

    But my GT3 is optimized regarding camber and some other stuff, so I guess some modification will be needed on this car as well. But the GT3 has been going hard. One change of the engine (blowed the engine on Spa last year) three times change of front  pads, one time back pads and this week I had to change the front discs. THAT was not cheap, since I have cheramic breaks....mail But since I will drive Spa next week, it was a good thing I noticed it now. Spa without breaks is not to recommend. The new engine still drinks enormous amounts of oil, so let's hope it will hold together this year....yes

    They will find many things to improve , don't worry . Their list is long and they like to sell Smiley

    Your comment on having to change the ceramics is very informative as I always hesitate to order them , but then stick to steels as I do not want to pay a change of ceramic breaks . And obviously they are still not good enough to endure track , even if some people say they are fine ........


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    martini964:
    Gnil:
    The farmer:

    I passed at Manthey last month for a little upgrade Smiley. Are you going all the way with their suspensions ? 

    What did you do???

    Basic stuff . Alignments , hight ,  bend of the back arches as on the RS the tires touches , they added a piece of rubber on the suspensions so to make the last bit more progressive , they set the back wing to the max downforce ,  they put the diffusor of the R  to increase downforce , took the mesh out ..... 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Tires: If I remember correctly the GT2RS comes with the new MPSC2 N2-tire. So yes it is a different compound then the tire that came with the 991.1RS.
    Dunlop has also been involved in the teting of the car so assuming there will be an Dunlop tire too.

    And I'm hoping the new N2 will fit my 991.1RS for even more fun :)

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Gnil:
    martini964:
    Gnil:
    The farmer:

    I passed at Manthey last month for a little upgrade Smiley. Are you going all the way with their suspensions ? 

    What did you do???

    Basic stuff . Alignments , hight ,  bend of the back arches as on the RS the tires touches , they added a piece of rubber on the suspensions so to make the last bit more progressive , they set the back wing to the max downforce ,  they put the diffusor of the R  to increase downforce , took the mesh out ..... 

    I had all this done as well recently, just be careful with rear arches as on mine they did not heat them enough so I needed touch up paint on the lower inside part of the fender. Addtionally due to the massive camber and less toe in the car gets quite unstable from 280km/h on and the rearwing setting acts like a parachute in the higher speed range. For track use perfect, with mixed road uae less so.

    Mike


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Amazing result. I wonder what time would the 918 achieve with 2018 tire technoiogy? 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    M3ike:
    just be careful with rear arches as on mine they did not heat them enough so I needed touch up paint on the lower inside part of the fender. Addtionally due to the massive camber and less toe in the car gets quite unstable from 280km/h on and the rearwing setting acts like a parachute in the higher speed range. For track use perfect, with mixed road uae less so.

    Mike

    I am aware of the possibility that the paint cracks . I discussed it prior with my dealer and retcons that about one out of two will crack . But did I have a choice ? Either the tire touch the arches or I bend them . I had to bend them . I actually think this should be fixed by Porsche as it is a conception mistake . My dealer did ask Porsche to have it fixed on my car  but I never had a clear answer back . 

    The back wing does even sound like a parachute now Smiley  I very very rarely hit 280 km/h or more . And if i do it is for just a few seconds as highways are always way too crowded . The place where I drive the fastest is on the Ring , on the straight at Dottinger Höhe. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    On the GT2 RS the modified the arches already from the factory to avoid the rubbing. The paint would not crack if Manthey heated it up properly btw. And there was a bulletin from Porsche to redo the arches. Apparently they now also have a different type of rear damper for the RS so the bumpstops from Manthey would not be needed anymore.

    Mike


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

     Apparently they now also have a different type of rear damper for the RS so the bumpstops from Manthey would not be needed anymore.

    Mike

     

    Do you mean for the GT3RS or the GT2RS?



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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    So as he just said, the car is on new compound tires.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Carlos from Spain:

    Smiley Now if Mr. Preuninger could give the GT2 RS a proper sound (no, I still don't like it how it sounds Smiley) and a fresher interior (for a 300k+ car), it would be perfect. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    This exaggerated tyre debate by the "enemies of Porsche"  is complete joke.

    It's like saying that Bolt was the fastest only because he wore the latest Puma shoes...or Nadal won two grand slam this year because he hit with the latest tech Babolat racket


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Well, keep driving your car on old shitty tires then reginos, no one's stopping you...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Tires and brakes are in my opinion the most important parts of a car... (of course you need an engine to produce power and a steering wheel to steer the car but you get my point).


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    Here is my new bumblebee RS:

     

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    not as fast but you can take the roof down and it looks better than the GT2 RS angrysmiley oh and it costs 10 times less money Smiley maybe it could use some stripes... and the dealer assured me it has the latest specs fastest all season run flat tires for the NBR SmileySmileySmiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

    RC:

    Tires and brakes are in my opinion the most important parts of a car... (of course you need an engine to produce power and a steering wheel to steer the car but you get my point).

    but on THIS car , its  power gain > cornering  in the net ring  time improvement ...mostly via stronger accel after corner exit and higher terminal speeds on straights ...and when compared to the coming " slower time " 991.2 GT3RS , the latter  will , predictably , be near universally proclaimed to be more feelsome, alive and exiting to listen to at its circling of tracks at similar max driver effort 

    something for everyone !


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