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    Xenons on 981S

    It appears that some of the Boxster S's at the Porsche Driving Experience Center's event at Silverstone on Tuesday 10 April 12 did not have washers for the headlights: 

    981S standard spec in the UK includes Xenon headlights.

    Can anyone confirm whether standard 981S Xenon headlights (without PDLS) includes washers please?

    I have never seen or heard of OEM Xenon lights from any manufacturer without washers.


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    If it had been a new Ferrari, I would have said they have forgotten them. smiley


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    It would seem that is the case: the basic xenon lights on the Boxster S do not include the washers. On the German configurator, if you try to add the "headlight washers painted in body color" option, you will be asked to first select the PDLS option.

    Same thing with the US configurator. 

     


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    The brochure only refers to a headlamp cleaning system for the PDLS option.

    Brochure Bixenons.JPG


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    So much for the earlier claims that bi-xenons needed the headlight cleaning system, because dirt on the headlights would result in diffraction of the powerful light beam and the resulting unfocused glare would be a serious annoyance to oncoming traffic...

     


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    I thought that washers were mandated by EU regulation if car has Xenons fitted OEM ...

     991 Xenons without PDLS has washers.


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    sfo:

    I thought that washers were mandated by EU regulation if car has Xenons fitted OEM ...

     991 Xenons without PDLS has washers.

    Smiley

    Washers and automatic headlight levelling systems, unless a car can be shown not to appreciably change its front-rear pitch under different load (passengers, luggage) conditions.


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    I hate head lights whashers.

    You spend ages cleaning the car and waxing it, and when the washers are activated, you end up with water and soap all over the bonnet and the front bumper.  Smiley

    On BMWs, it's even worse as the same command is used to activate the widshields washers and the head lights whashers... (headlights washers go on from time to time, even when you don't want them to be activated).

    What a stupid invention.

     


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    fritz:
    sfo:

    I thought that washers were mandated by EU regulation if car has Xenons fitted OEM ...

     991 Xenons without PDLS has washers.

    Washers and automatic headlight levelling systems, unless a car can be shown not to appreciably change its front-rear pitch under different load (passengers, luggage) conditions.


    My understanding as well. Only the leveling system was meant to be dismissed under certain preconditions. It seems to me, assuming the above specs are indeed correct, that Porsche found a legislative loophole to dismiss the headlight washers. 


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    On the dealer configurator, the standard Xenons on the 981S does not have washers. You only get washers if PDLS is specified.

    I am shocked by this, but PCGB say the configurator is correct. PCGB won't however put anything in writing.

    Also, compare the light descriptions of 991 (991 which I have driven with standard Xenons had washers) and 981:

    "The new 911 models are equipped as standard with Bi-Xenon headlights including a headlight cleaning system and dynamic range control. With dipped or main beam, the road ahead is illuminated more uniformly."

    "The Boxster S is equipped as standard with Bi-Xenon headlights."

    I have added PDLS to my spec, assuming it's not too late.
     


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    fritz:

    Washers and automatic headlight levelling systems, unless a car can be shown not to appreciably change its front-rear pitch under different load (passengers, luggage) conditions.

     ....finally there's evidence that the Boxster's suspension must be the most sportiest in Porsche's entire model palette Smiley


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    Porsche-Jeck:
    fritz:

    Washers and automatic headlight levelling systems, unless a car can be shown not to appreciably change its front-rear pitch under different load (passengers, luggage) conditions.

     ....finally there's evidence that the Boxster's suspension must be the most sportiest in Porsche's entire model palette Smiley

     It means that the Boxster is Porsche's most well balanced car ...


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    Here is the answe to all your questions :)

    Regarding Xenons with wash, the standard unit on 981 S is a 25-watt system so doesn't require washers - washers are only required above 2000 lumens and these units just creep below the threshold.  The optional PDLS unit on the other hand is 35-watt, >2000 lumen system and does require washers 

     


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    Chinstts:

    Here is the answe to all your questions :)

    Regarding Xenons with wash, the standard unit on 981 S is a 25-watt system so doesn't require washers - washers are only required above 2000 lumens and these units just creep below the threshold.  The optional PDLS unit on the other hand is 35-watt, >2000 lumen system and does require washers 

     

    Thank you for that Chinstts- it never fails to amaze me the info that we learn about on Rennteam! Smiley


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    Chinstts:

    Here is the answe to all your questions :)


    Thanks mate,

    I knew that there was a logical explanation to it. Considering that, the PDLS features far more than just some cornering lights.

    Smiley


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    Porsche economize on their cheaper model by installing weaker lights and saving on the need for washers.

    Brilliant accounting


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    Ferdie:
    Chinstts:

    Here is the answe to all your questions :)


    Thanks mate,

    I knew that there was a logical explanation to it. Considering that, the PDLS features far more than just some cornering lights.

    Smiley

    +1 Smiley


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    Checking with my dealer this afternoon and my car is still status D so we have asked if it is possible to add the PDLS option, not sure about this one as the build is scheduled to complete on May 15th -

    I thought I had the dealers fIrst customer build slot, but then again I do keep adding toys so this may continue to delay things.


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    reginos:

    Porsche economize on their cheaper model by installing weaker lights and saving on the need for washers.

    Brilliant accounting

    That's what really frustrates me about Porsche - their brilliant mid engined range deliberately "down engineered" to be second class citizens in the range. Smiley Why not give the 981 the same lights as the 991? The cost can be only pence difference?


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    well, when you travel Business Class, you can't expect First Class benefits ...


    Re: Xenons on 981S

    sfo:

    well, when you travel Business Class, you can't expect First Class benefits ...

    Wouldn't know, I can only afford economy........ Smiley


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    Re: Xenons on 981S

    I just managed to add the PDLS to my build, but was then told no further changes. Its funny how the PDLS was one of those options that I had considered but then rejected on economic grounds as I incorrectly assumed it just added bendy headlights to the standard xenons with headlight wash.


     
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