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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    ResB:

    I'm not good at this..lol  I had a go too.


     

    Looks stuning, great job, love the convertible lines Smiley

    J.Seven


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Wild-Speed:

     Here's another render for the convertible. Wondering how the hardtop will look....Remember the spyshots with the hardtop and canvas folding in together??


    Smiley perfect....

    J.Seven


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    nberry:

    I am not so sure. The economy is not good and as I pointed along with others, the front end resemblance to the Boxster is uncanny. With money being tight even hardcore Porsche enthusiast will have a difficult time justifying trading in their 997's for the 991.

    I have no doubt the 991 performance will be better than the 997 but the difference in styling and performance may not be enough for people to pull the trigger. FWIW, I showed my wife the 991 pictures and she asked what is the difference between it and her 997 Turbo. She could not tell the difference in styling.Smiley


    I'm a little late to the party, but I can't believe that you, Nick, bought a 997 after all the years bashing this car. Smiley  Is there a link to this epic thread?

    I'm beginning to warm to this 991.  I can't wait until the 991TT is out, then I will trade-in the old 997S for it.


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     My wife just had a look at the new pics. About the inside she said :

    oooh it looks now more like the Mercedes !!!


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Gnil:

     My wife just had a look at the new pics. About the inside she said :

    oooh it looks now more like the Mercedes !!!


    Well, she's absolutely right. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Gnil:

     My wife just had a look at the new pics. About the inside she said :

    oooh it looks now more like the Mercedes !!!

    She meant it as a compliment, I presume!


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I actually expected to see the official press release from Porsche today but no such thing. 
    Apparently we really caught them off guard. 

     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Christian, actual Porsche plan was intro on 24th August. Apparently, they will stick to original plan... Shame on them after intended leak last week.


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    What surprised me is that they didn't even do a teaser webspecial on the website... And now that the final pictures are out in the open already, I don't think that that is going to happen anymore either. Well, only two days left untill the 24th!


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Smiley

    1314009611698silver front.jpg


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Besides the look that is known already, we expect to see the tech too. New PDK and PASM versions, new chassis options, e-differential  etc.???

    Also the new rear passenger space is still unknown.


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Misha011:

    Smiley

    1314009611698silver front.jpg

     

    Why do you post a photo of a camouflaged 991 if the real photos are already out ? Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I don't think those photos are real   Smiley


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Misha011:

    I don't think those photos are real   Smiley


    Misha,

    Pics are REAL. Even printed brochure for new 991 are ready.

     


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Why they used p-shop on them ?  


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Misha011:

    Why they used p-shop on them ?  


    Are you kidding?Smiley ALL fashion magazines in the world are using PS. Why then Porsche marketing can not use it?

    MOST 997.2 pics on its intro were PS-ed as well...


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Misha011:

    I don't think those photos are real   Smiley

     

    Well...your problem.  Smiley

    Oh no, wait...I did them myself and sent them to Rossi to make a fool out of you all. Smiley

    NotSmiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    RC:

    Why do you post a photo of a camouflaged 991 if the real photos are already out ? Smiley Smiley


    Talking about real photos: nice gallery in the new Auto Motor Sport online mag:

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilder/porsche-911-carrera-s-laenger-komfortabler-sportlicher-3965758.html?fotoshow_item=14#fotoshow_item=7


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Porsche-Jeck:
    RC:

    Why do you post a photo of a camouflaged 991 if the real photos are already out ? Smiley Smiley


    Talking about real photos: nice gallery in the new Auto Motor Sport online mag:

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilder/porsche-911-carrera-s-laenger-komfortabler-sportlicher-3965758.html?fotoshow_item=14#fotoshow_item=7

     Excellent! great comparison galery, thanks! Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    RC:
    Oh no, wait...I did them myself and sent them to Rossi to make a fool out of you all.

    Smiley


    Pssst, don't tell him, it's a secret. Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Joost:

    What surprised me is that they didn't even do a teaser webspecial on the website...

    here you go Smiley
    http://www.porsche.de/911

    First small promo vid - this time the name of the game seems to be "Identity" (Identität) Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Carlos from Spain:
    Porsche-Jeck:
    RC:

    Why do you post a photo of a camouflaged 991 if the real photos are already out ? Smiley Smiley


    Talking about real photos: nice gallery in the new Auto Motor Sport online mag:

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilder/porsche-911-carrera-s-laenger-komfortabler-sportlicher-3965758.html?fotoshow_item=14#fotoshow_item=7

     Excellent! great comparison galery, thanks! Smiley


    This is an excellent comparison shot of the two: Smiley


     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Indeed, excellent comparison photo but I still wonder if the rear space is much better now. I had only a short glimpse at the rear space a while ago and it looked almost like the one on the 997...disappointing.


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     I would not hold my breath for much extra rear space, there is not much room for improvement even if the WB is 10cm longer, the problem is still the height IMO, and the 991 if anything has a lower roof line for the back seats.


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Something strange ... perhaps you guys can explain this ...

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilder/porsche-911-carrera-s-laenger-komfortabler-sportlicher-3965758.html?fotoshow_item=0#fotoshow_item=7

    My German language proficiency is limited but it seems to say ...

    The 991 front track is 1538mm whereas the 997.2 front track is 1486mm.

    The 991 rear track is 1516mm and the 997.2 rear track is 1516mm i.e. unchanged and overall width is 1808mm i.e. unchanged.

    So the front axle is now wider than the rear axle on the 991 but it is the other way round on the 997.2. Is this a typo or is it meant to be this way?

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Porsche-Jeck:


    here you go Smiley
    http://www.porsche.de/911

    First small promo vid


    It's so naughty of PAG ... you have to watch the video several times at least just to make sense of the fleeting glimpses of the various body parts .... Smiley

    But I didn't spot anything to contradict the photos released recently ...

    It's also somewhat ironic to release a teaser video whose theme is 'identity' when the very thing PAG is trying desperately (and failing) to hide is the nature of that identity ...

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    997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Tomorrow morning the NEW 911 will be officialy released!!!


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    easy_rider911:
    My German language proficiency is limited but it seems to say ...

    The 991 front track is 1538mm whereas the 997.2 front track is 1486mm.

    The 991 rear track is 1516mm and the 997.2 rear track is 1516mm i.e. unchanged and overall width is 1808mm i.e. unchanged.

    So the front axle is now wider than the rear axle on the 991 but it is the other way round on the 997.2. Is this a typo or is it meant to be this way?


    Easy,

    track is measured between the middle of two wheels. For example, were both axles to have the same track the one equipped with wider tires would still have the longer distance between the outer edges.

    On the 991, the rear tires should still protrude around two centimeters further on each side than on the front axle, if my calculations were correct.


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Carlos from Spain:

     I would not hold my breath for much extra rear space, there is not much room for improvement even if the WB is 10cm longer, the problem is still the height IMO, and the 991 if anything has a lower roof line for the back seats.


    Unfortunately it is the doom of nearly every new car to get bigger with every model change but without gaining much interior space. Smiley
     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Ferdie:
    easy_rider911:
    My German language proficiency is limited but it seems to say ...

    The 991 front track is 1538mm whereas the 997.2 front track is 1486mm.

    The 991 rear track is 1516mm and the 997.2 rear track is 1516mm i.e. unchanged and overall width is 1808mm i.e. unchanged.

    So the front axle is now wider than the rear axle on the 991 but it is the other way round on the 997.2. Is this a typo or is it meant to be this way?


    Easy,

    track is measured between the middle of two wheels. For example, were both axles to have the same track the one equipped with wider tires would still have the longer distance between the outer edges.

    On the 991, the rear tires should still protrude around two centimeters further on each side than on the front axle, if my calculations were correct.


    That is true. Never thought of it that way. Thanks Ferdie!

     
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