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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Moser:

    So just a quick update....  The new engine has arrived, and they are in process of performing the surgery on the car.  It's pretty crazy just how much stuff needs to be removed from the car in order to replace the engine....They say they need another week, i'm just worried that this engine replacement will lead to other issues.  Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I haven't had a great experience so far with LR.


     

     

    It's a Range Rover. That's par for the course. What else did you expect?


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Nick, morale booster Smiley

    LR is crap though


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    martini964:

    I was going to tell you about lemon law,but noon beat me, anyways,good luck. there is old saying in Australia,if you wanna go out get the Landrove, but if you wanna come back, take a Toyota,lol.

    Smiley Smiley but a very sad reflection of a great product let down by patchy build quality and indifferent after sales service. You’d think Land Rover would have learned from the bad old days of British Leyland back in the 1970’s where customers left in droves to buy German and Japanese competitors as a result. Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Whoopsy:
    Moser:

    So just a quick update....  The new engine has arrived, and they are in process of performing the surgery on the car.  It's pretty crazy just how much stuff needs to be removed from the car in order to replace the engine....They say they need another week, i'm just worried that this engine replacement will lead to other issues.  Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I haven't had a great experience so far with LR.


     

     

    It's a Range Rover. That's par for the course. What else did you expect?

    Nonsense! The quality of LR has improved significantly since Tata bought it. My RRS which I bought in 2015 has almost been fault free compared to the Cayenne I owned which spent more time in the shop than in my garage.


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    nberry:
    Whoopsy:
    Moser:

    It's a Range Rover. That's par for the course. What else did you expect?

    Nonsense! The quality of LR has improved significantly since Tata bought it. My RRS which I bought in 2015 has almost been fault free compared to the Cayenne I owned which spent more time in the shop than in my garage.

    You might be lucky owner, my buddy had to change transmission in less than 6k. ( 2017 model),while he was there there was a 2013 model was also changing the tranny,with 23k on it.....


    Re: Issues With Velar

    I've looked into replacing my daily driver and full-size RR in mind have been reading fullfatrr.com. I have to say that I've never heard people returning the car to dealer after experiencing multiple infotainment issues but there are several of those there. Seems to be MY17 and MY18 issue. Also, people there seem to admit that it is still way behind German marques in overall quality.


    Re: Issues With Velar

    I am in the sam boat as Nick. My RRS so far has been more reliable than the 3 Porsche SUV I have owned...


    Re: Issues With Velar

    Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)


    Re: Issues With Velar

    Moser:

    Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

    they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem Smiley

    I am running already Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Moser:

    Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

    It may be that the new model Velar has some issues to work out. As far as I am concerned, the RRS is the best SUV I have owned.Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    the-missile:
    Moser:

    Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

    they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem Smiley

    I am running already Smiley

    Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    bluelines:
    the-missile:
    Moser:

    Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

    they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem Smiley

    I am running already Smiley

    Smiley

    Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    the-missile:
    Moser:

    Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

    they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem Smiley

    I am running already Smiley

    Just don’t criticise German cars - you might not get away with it so easily Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Love German cars...

    much less love with anything coming from the Island located on our side coastsmiley

    running faster


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    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: Issues With Velar

    the-missile:

    Love German cars...

    much less love with anything coming from the Island located on our side coastsmiley

    running faster

    I guess I asked for that! Smiley (We have three cars, sadly none built here, two shortly being replaced with a VW Golf) Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Speaking of Velar...current lease offer at German dealers (this is the official offer, dealers can apparently top it).

    Prices incl. VAT.

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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Had a chat with the dealer today as the car is close to being finished, and I basically told him I don't want the car back after the engine replacement.  They only offered an extension of the warranty which I told them they had to do and they havent really offered me anything to keep me happy.  This is the second brand new car I buy from them and they know that I buy my cars fully loaded and change them every 2-3 years.  I floated an idea by them and I'm gonna see what they come back to me with.  I offered to buy another car from them same options as mine but with the 3.0 Diesel V6 instead of the 2.0 L Diesel 240 bhp that I currently have.  

    I asked them to as LR for support to take back my vehicle at the price I paid for it and order me an new one with the bigger engine and I would pay the difference of the engine price.  They didn't say no, they asked to study this option and I will see what they come back to me with.  I just don't like the idea of having a new engine and that I have to change the log book of the car with a new engine number which goes on the cars record.  I know it happens and that's what warranties are for, but I'm trying to get more out of them instead of just a one year warranty extension.  I've had the car 6 months of which it's been with them for 2.


    Re: Issues With Velar

    If you don't want it that bad, just sell it and buy a new one.


    Re: Issues With Velar

    noone1:

    If you don't want it that bad, just sell it and buy a new one.

    Maybe you didn't pay attention but once he gets a new engine, the value of his car tanks.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Issues With Velar

    I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.


    Re: Issues With Velar

    noone1:

    I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

    I wouldn't want such a car and I know many who think alike. Why? Because there is always a suspicion that there was "more" behind it. Human nature. Dealer needs to disclose the changed engine, so customers would know. Same applies to the private market...I think.


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    noone1:

    I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

     

    Perhaps you should buy it off his hands then if you think it's nothing.Smiley


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    RC:
    noone1:

    I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

    I wouldn't want such a car and I know many who think alike. Why? Because there is always a suspicion that there was "more" behind it. Human nature. Dealer needs to disclose the changed engine, so customers would know. Same applies to the private market...I think.

    the only similar logic did not apply for only 1 car that I know is the GT3.1 at the time of first resale. now, the car being more than 3 years old... good luck Smiley one major reason for Porsche to propose the extended free warranty.


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    noone, 

    that's what I proposed to the dealer, that I will order a new one, and whatever the difference in the list price between what I originally paid for mine and the new one I will pay. I just want them to value my car which has delivery miles as close as possible to the price I paid... so the difference won't be that big.

     

     

    moser


    Re: Issues With Velar

    Velars should be rare in Cyprus, I think this car should be able to find a new owner easily.


    Re: Issues With Velar

    Whoopsy:
    noone1:

    I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

     

    Perhaps you should buy it off his hands then if you think it's nothing.Smiley

    Don't want it, but he's also not obligated to write "ENGINE REPLACED BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS!!!!11" on his for sale ad.

    Put a few miles on it and sell it. Just say you didn't like it or have to move for work/family and need to get rid of it.


    Re: Issues With Velar

    Yes, excellent advise, instead of reaching an honest arrangement with the dealer, why bother when you can just lie about it and pass the problem to someone else  1325269639981rolleyes.gif


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    Re: Issues With Velar

    Um, what exactly is the problem? He's got a perfectly fine working Velar with a new engine. If I were LR, I'd just say OK, take the car back and then give it right back to him with a new VIN. "Here ya go, one brand new Velar coming up!"


    Re: Issues With Velar

    noone1:
    Whoopsy:
    noone1:

    Don't want it, but he's also not obligated to write "ENGINE REPLACED BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS!!!!11" on his for sale ad.

    Put a few miles on it and sell it. Just say you didn't like it or have to move for work/family and need to get rid of it.

    It matters if you wanna put ur head on pillow and have a good,relaxed sleep. You should be as honest as possible to buyer,period


    Re: Issues With Velar

    Sorry, I don't subscribe to that line of thinking because people are dumb and make a big deal about anything just to get a lower price.


     
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