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    Paddles or Buttons?

    Could some Panamera owners post their preference for paddles or wheel buttons?  I understand that in the new Panameras if you get the paddles, you get the sport wheel, but you cannot get the heated, multi-function wheel.  I am more interested in which system--buttons or paddles--you prefer.  Thanks...


    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    Have a 997, not a Panamera, but I doubt the conclusion would be any different - the paddles are by far the best system to change gear in a PDK style system.  Porsche's buttons are very poor ergonomically, and counterintuitive to use.  I changed our 2009's buttons to paddles this year.    I would say though, that we drive our 911 exclusively in manual mode, so the shifting is important - if you rarely use manual shifting, and often use the multi-function buttons, then maybe the standard wheel is better for you.  

    If in doubt try to find any Porsche with paddles and drive it - doesn't need to be a Panamera to see if you like them.  


    --

    2011 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


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    I had the buttons on my Carrera PDK and then changed to the paddles. 

    Paddles if you want the sportier ,  best tactile feeling and plan to often change gears yourself on manual mode or by overriding.

    Buttons if you prefer it to be like an automatic and will used it nearly only in automatic


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     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    I changed from buttons to paddles too on a 911. Paddles are better for sporty driving. The paddles themselves are made of metal and look better and the shape of the steering wheel is better on the hands. The button wheel is thicker at points where the buttons are located which I found inconvenient.

    However, for a limousine like the Panamera (albeit sporty) the multifunction and heated button wheel might offer you advantages which outweigh the benefits of the paddles. It depends really  on how/where  you will drive the car.


    --

    "Form follows function"


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    Right now I'm considering getting a Cayenne Turbo. I have paddles on my current Carrera GTS and I love them, they are much better and sportier than the buttons but on the Cayenne, I will go for the buttons, simply because most of the time, I will drive the Cayenne in auto mode and I chose the carbon fibre steering wheel, which doesn't allow paddles. 

    It really depends on what you want but while paddles make sense for PDK equipped cars, it doesn't make much sense on Tiptronic equipped cars like the Panamera Diesel/Hybrid or the Cayenne.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    Thanks guys, I will test both systems...


    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    I had buttons on my Cayman S but have paddles on my GTS and find the paddles far more interactive. The only down side is you cannot have the multi functions for the PCM with the paddle steering wheel.


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    Paddles are the fashionable conventional wisdom. Push-pull buttons are PAG's, against the grain, form fits function solution.

    For those who are above fashion, who can adapt, who are disciplined with steering hand position, the redundant push-pull buttons are a far better solution. There is never confusion on upshifting/downshifting as there is with L/R paddles on a sharp turn. And yes, you can shift in a turn with no issue at all - try it, you'll like it.


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    _________________________________________________________________ 

    "Dream as impractical, irrational and unnecessary as that may be... Here's to the Dreamers!" -- Porsche AG.


    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    Again, don't understand why Porsche isn't able to deliver the gadgets which are standard in other comparative cars. For example: in my X5M is a multifunction steering wheel WITH fine metalic paddles. They work pretty well. Same with Speed limit Info, (very useful in Germany IMHO), real time traffic info (extremely helpful), surround view, side view, lane assist (not the burner of course) etc. I don't call them to have in an 911 but why not in the Panamera/Cayenne?? I wonder if somebody would be able to explain this....
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    Kind regards, Conny 

    Porsche 997.2 Turbo S  *  BMW X5 M
     

    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    I have paddles in my Cayenne, pure for the looks. I don't like the button steering wheel. As mentioned you don't have the multifunction PCM buttons, but I'm happy with my decision.

    @Conny the Cayenne has the speed limit info standard?

     


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    2012 Cayenne S White/Espresso 

    Ex: 993 Targa, 986S, 986 and 964 C2


    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    993Targa:


    I have paddles in my Cayenne, pure for the looks. I don't like the button steering wheel. As mentioned you don't have the multifunction PCM buttons, but I'm happy with my decision.



    @Conny the Cayenne has the speed limit info standard?



     






    No, you can't order a real speed limit info for a Porsche. Just a static speed limit show up which is stored as fixed data in the navi map.
    --
    Kind regards, Conny 

    Porsche 997.2 Turbo S  *  BMW X5 M
     

    Re: Paddles or Buttons?

    I agree...Porsche asking money for the paddle steering wheel option is just pathetic. It should be a no cost option, despite the fact that the paddles actually make more sense on a Porsche. Does anybody actually like the buttons ?


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


     
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