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    Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-12/-cayenne-crisis-hurts-bmw-as-much-as-porsche-as-spain-sales-dry-up-cars.html


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    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    Cayenne is seling very well in 2011 in Spain. 1.079 cars Jan-Nov, +41,4% 2010, for comparison:

    1. VW Touareg 1.158
    2. BMW X5 1.140
    3. Cayenne 1.079
    4. Mercedes ML 1.071
    5. Audi Q7 864
    6. Range Rover 758

    Porsche total sales 1.570 (only Spain, not Porsche Iberica), +25,4% Jan-Nov


    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    Enzo II:

    Cayenne is seling very well in 2011 in Spain. 1.079 cars Jan-Nov, +41,4% 2010, for comparison:

    1. VW Touareg 1.158
    2. BMW X5 1.140
    3. Cayenne 1.079
    4. Mercedes ML 1.071
    5. Audi Q7 864
    6. Range Rover 758

    Porsche total sales 1.570 (only Spain, not Porsche Iberica), +25,4% Jan-Nov

    So the Bloomberg article is...crap ? Smiley

    I'm actually very surprised to see that car sales in Spain have increased substantially in 2011 and not only luxury cars. Weird. Do people fear a EUR crash (so they need to get rid of their "cash" ? Smiley) or what is the real reason for that ? Unemployment rate in Spain is still 4x (!) higher than in Germany for example, in certain (younger) age categories even higher. Just asking... Smiley


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    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    Cars sales are falling down in Spain, in its lowest level since 1993. 

    2005: 1.528.849 cars

    2006: 1.499.032 cars

    2007: 1.615.201 cars

    2008: 1.161.176 cars

    2009: 952.722 cars

    2010: 982.015 cars

    2011: below 900.000 cars 

    I'm just saying, that Cayenne is not a good example, because it is selling very well nowadays


    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    Weird. November 2011...over 25% increase in car sales in Spain. Only November ? yes


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    Just Porsche sales in Spain(+25%, +40% Cayenne), not total car sales (November: -7%)


    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

     


    In summary...

    2007: everybody seems rich in Spain heart . 2008: first crisis year in Spain cheeky , and a new 14.75% tax for new cars with emissions above  200 gr.CO2/km mail . 2011: Stil in crisis , data until november. 

    1. ML 5.639 (2007), 2.983 (2008),  1.071 (2011) -81%
    2. Audi Q7 5.139 (2007), 1.869 (2008),  864 (2011) -83%
    3. BMW X5 4.778(2007), 2.892 (2008),  1.140 (2011) -76%
    4. VW Touareg 4.419 (2007), 1.720 (2008) , 1.158 (2011) -74%
    5. Cayenne 1.337 (2007), 851 (2008) , 1.079 (2011) -19% 

     


    • 911: 557 (2005),  378 (2008), +-160 (2011)
    • Boxster: 372 (2005), 128 (2008), 53 (2010), +-50(2011)

     


    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    There are still many wealthy people in Spain who buy Cayennes. The article refers to those new rich who bought them as a social sign, but when the crisis arose they could no longer afford them.


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    Re: Very interesting (and sad) "Cayenne in Spain" article

    Mikla:

    There are still many wealthy people in Spain who buy Cayennes. The article refers to those new rich who bought them as a social sign, but when the crisis arose they could no longer afford them.

    Now this makes more sense. Smiley


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