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    Re: It Wouldn't Be the First Diesel 911

    Great story, Fred.

    I remember a few years back when MB did a diesel racing prototype and broke some world speed records.

    I don't care if it burns gas, oil, hydrogen, electrons or sheep dip. If it's fast and fun to drive, I'm a fan.

    Dain

    Re: It Wouldn't Be the First Diesel 911


    No NOW it'sd official THERE IS a 911 diesel ...

    I would love to hear it .... Does it sound like a tractor?

    Cheers

    General Motors Confesses

    Here is an interesting and uncharacteristic admission by a prominent auto executive.

    (reported in Autoweek:web page)

    Quote:
    DIESEL DOUBTS -- Diesels are hot in Europe, but General Motors won't put them in U.S. cars soon. Chairman Rick Wagoner said the industry's diesel capacity is "pretty much used up." And GM wants to see strong consumer demand before investing in a diesel plant. Wagoner added that U.S. consumers are wary of diesels, in part because of the shoddy diesels GM produced in the 1970s. "You still are fighting in the U.S. a very negative image toward diesels caused, somewhat regretfully, by General Motors 30 years ago."





    Re: General Motors Confesses

    At GM Europe, there is the Opel Speedster proto with the very small diesel engine (piccolo diesel, issued from Fiat collaboration), 1.3 l, common rail ... with 130 hp.
    Top speed : 250 km/h
    Consumption : 2,5 l/100 km ...
    this is a quite impressive car, I saw it many times, due to fact that I worked on it in the past.

    Re: General Motors Confesses


    Actually it's a 100% Fiat engine .... GM Europe has lost of lot of ground on a technical stand point on diesel technology .... because it's run by americans from Detroit who never believed in diesel ....

    Re: General Motors Confesses

    the 1,3 is a Fiat engine, you are right.
    At Opel/Vauxhall, they never offer impressive diesel engines. They used the 2 and 2.2 which are quite good engines, but not giving the expected performance, compared to the VAG TDI engines. But though, they are good engines.
    They just got another strategy about diesel. Now, they realize people like to have impressive diesel engines (those who kick your a-s-s, but are not always efficients). For the next generation they will use the 1.9 diesel engines from Fiat, and the 1.7 & 3.0 from Isuzu. I think this is a good choice, at least, at GME they can get something positive from the collaboration with Fiat.

     
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