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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    DaveC:

    911 S/T???

    50th comes in 2020 and then RS 3 years later...


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    pmarkow:

    next gt3 will also have the rs engine, if i understood whoopsy correctly

    Well maybe it's time for me to put my name down at my dealer!


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    pmarkow:

    all in all a part bin exercise, as predicted here. rather underwhelming. why would one choose this over the gt3 991.2 manual? except of course to make money on it

    Totally agree. I would skip the R and go for any other 991 GTx. The R is flashy, is not lighter, only has two seats and no PDK. The 991.1 GT3 regular or RS is a much better option for the price and if the rumor is true the 991.2 GT3 is the one to get for manual diehards. The R is the first or last of nothing and totally a parts bin exercise (except for the shorter manual transmission? Yawn). Again, they should have chopped the roof and charge $30k more, that would be special.

    As we all know, this is again Porsche marketing at its best.


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    btw, interesting how fast and quietly porsche is phasing out the 991.1 GT3 engine.

     


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    SciFrog:
    pmarkow:

    all in all a part bin exercise, as predicted here. rather underwhelming. why would one choose this over the gt3 991.2 manual? except of course to make money on it

    Totally agree. I would skip the R and go for any other 991 GTx. The R is flashy, is not lighter, only has two seats and no PDK. The 991.1 GT3 regular or RS is a much better option for the price and if the rumor is true the 991.2 GT3 is the one to get for manual diehards. The R is the first or last of nothing and totally a parts bin exercise (except for the shorter manual transmission? Yawn). Again, they should have chopped the roof and charge $30k more, that would be special.

    As we all know, this is again Porsche marketing at its best.


    allegedly AP favorite porsche of all times:::)))

    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    pmarkow:

    next gt3 will also have the rs engine, if i understood whoopsy correctly

     

    No.

    As AP puts it, the current GT3's engine is gen 1, the current GT3RS engine is gen 1.5.

    The race motor in the 911R is gen 2, even when it's sounds so similar to the current RS engine on paper, but the race motor has less output with the restrictor, 475 vs 500. It will have a completely new oiling system when compared with the current gen 1 and gen 1.5 motors.

    A variant of that motor will go into the next GT3, which AP calls the get 2.5 engine.


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:
    pmarkow:

    all in all a part bin exercise, as predicted here. rather underwhelming. why would one choose this over the gt3 991.2 manual? except of course to make money on it

    Totally agree. I would skip the R and go for any other 991 GTx. The R is flashy, is not lighter, only has two seats and no PDK. The 991.1 GT3 regular or RS is a much better option for the price and if the rumor is true the 991.2 GT3 is the one to get for manual diehards. The R is the first or last of nothing and totally a parts bin exercise (except for the shorter manual transmission? Yawn). Again, they should have chopped the roof and charge $30k more, that would be special.

    As we all know, this is again Porsche marketing at its best.

    +1

    The next GT3 is the car to have. Not this R.


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


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    Agree.

    Also, short geared 6 speed? 

    Gearbox is actually geared pretty long, especially 5th and 6th since max speed is 323km/h.


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    Whoopsy:

     

    And yes, the next GT3 can be had with manual, they had already developed a special 6-speed for the R, so it's only natural to offer it for the next GT3. 

     

     

     

    That will bring the prices of the 997 GT3/RS back to normal 


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    Whoopsy:

    Yes, and a GT2RS, actually there will be a GT2, but according to AP it will be more likely an RS spec wise.

    Do you confirm that there will be a a 991.2 RS ? Turbo or N/A ?


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


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    If there is a GT2/GT2RS coming, it doesn't make sense for the next GT3 RS to have a turbo motor, does it? :)


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    Considering the price I have paid for my GT4, it is the bargain of the century.

    911R looks nice, but not truly breathtaking. Guess it driving experience will make it shine, as usual with Porsche halo cars. I also believe the 991.2 GT3 is the car to have.


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    Whoopsy:

    If there is a GT2/GT2RS coming, it doesn't make sense for the next GT3 RS to have a turbo motor, does it? :)

    Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    pmarkow:
    SciFrog:

    As we all know, this is again Porsche marketing at its best.

    allegedly AP favorite porsche of all times:::)))

    Even AP fell for Porsche's marketing spell Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Gnil:
    bluelines:
     

    10kg less than a 991.1 Carrera indecision

    Someone is going to say something SmileySmiley

    Sorry, correction needed. With radio and AC the R is 10kg more than a 991.1 Carrera Smiley Smiley


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    pmarkow:
    SciFrog:

    As we all know, this is again Porsche marketing at its best.

    allegedly AP favorite porsche of all times:::)))

    Even AP fell for Porsche's marketing spell Smiley

    that comment made my day:::))))


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    Whoopsy:

    If there is a GT2/GT2RS coming, it doesn't make sense for the next GT3 RS to have a turbo motor, does it? :)

    Smiley Smiley


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


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    RWS?


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    I like it some Much but clearly What they do if à cup édition of the RS coming? I think its the last car of NA era... I dont see à limited édition of the RS...i think the next limited car is the GT2 RS...


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS

     


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    Whoopsy:

    If there is a GT2/GT2RS coming, it doesn't make sense for the next GT3 RS to have a turbo motor, does it? :)

    If nothing changes at the end of 991 lifecycle we will get a GT2RS not GT2.


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    LP997:

    I like it some Much but clearly What they do if à cup édition of the RS coming? I think its the last car of NA era... I dont see à limited édition of the RS...i think the next limited car is the GT2 RS...


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS

     

    According to Whoopsy ' s info there will be more NA engines , in the 991.2 GT3  and in the 991.2 GT3 RS 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


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    Gnil:
    LP997:

    I like it some Much but clearly What they do if à cup édition of the RS coming? I think its the last car of NA era... I dont see à limited édition of the RS...i think the next limited car is the GT2 RS...


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS

     

    According to Whoopsy ' s info there will be more NA engines , in the 991.2 GT3  and in the 991.2 GT3 RS 

    991.2 GT3 yes. 992.2 GT3 RS not 100% sure, maybe 80% (developing is rolling but...). 991 GT2 RS quite sure (and much more than just a current 991.2 Turbo S without AWD).

    991 R engine using 991.2 GT3 tech...surprise surprise.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)



    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    any news of active aero on the R? 


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    Someone at Rennlist said that it has a Carrera type wing...


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    Kobalt:

    Someone at Rennlist said that it has a Carrera type wing...

    Since when does the Carrera have a wing? It has only a deployable "wing", so if he means that?

    I can't exclude that Porsche will show the 911 R with a ducktail to make US customers happy but I hope they don't. This car looks so beautiful without any wing... 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    A pure 911 with an RS motor...like the perfect car for mountain ride :)


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


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    RC:
     
    Since when does the Carrera have a wing? It has only a deployable "wing", so if he means that?

    I can't exclude that Porsche will show the 911 R with a ducktail to make US customers happy but I hope they don't. This car looks so beautiful without any wing... 

    Well, I should have written spoiler.

     

     


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Kobalt:
    RC:
     
    Since when does the Carrera have a wing? It has only a deployable "wing", so if he means that?

    I can't exclude that Porsche will show the 911 R with a ducktail to make US customers happy but I hope they don't. This car looks so beautiful without any wing... 

    Well, I should have written spoiler.

     

     

    Yes, you should. Please don't make such blatant mistakes again which the forum admin needs to correct. 

    Smiley

     

     


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    bluelines:

    Yes, you should. Please don't make such blatant mistakes again which the forum admin needs to correct. 

    Smiley

     

    Will not happen again, I promise!

    Smiley  Smiley


     
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