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    My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    He's in Asia. The RS5 will cost him about $90K. It's a 2014. I told him it's an old, shitty, boring, uncool car. It has an old interior and the new S5 is coming out soon with the virtual cockpit, turbo, and probably similar performance anyway.

    I don't really follow cars in this segment. He wants something sports and cool in the same price range. Assume $90K there buys you $50K in the US/Europe.

    He wants something cool. 911 isn't an option because the backseats suck.

    Any idea?


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    noone1:

    He's in Asia. The RS5 will cost him about $90K. It's a 2014. I told him it's an old, shitty, boring, uncool car. It has an old interior and the new S5 is coming out soon with the virtual cockpit, turbo, and probably similar performance anyway.

    Actually, the current RS5 is quite nice with it's n/a V8... Smiley


    I don't really follow cars in this segment. He wants something sports and cool in the same price range. Assume $90K there buys you $50K in the US/Europe.

    He wants something cool. 911 isn't an option because the backseats suck.

    Any idea?

    Something cool? Smiley Not sure how this is possible for 50k but...


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    There are not many options I'm afraid, even more so if he needs back seats: Audi RS5, BMW M3 (e92) and Mercedes C63AMG (old one) are the obvious choices. 

    Christian had a C63 AMG coupe. From what he wrote at the time, it looked like a very good & cool car.

     

     


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    amazon:

    There are not many options I'm afraid, even more so if he needs back seats: Audi RS5, BMW M3 (e92) and Mercedes C63AMG (old one) are the obvious choices. 

    Christian had a C63 AMG coupe. From what he wrote at the time, it looked like a very good & cool car.

    Fun to drive, amazing performance and engine (I had the Performance Package version + LSD), lots of room for four persons, highly recommendable. Not so much fun in the wet or on snow. Smiley 


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    I would suggest him not to listen to your advice... You think an RS5 is boring and uncool, and recommend an S5 instead because it's turbo'ed? yes


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    RC:
     

    Fun to drive, amazing performance and engine (I had the Performance Package version + LSD), lots of room for four persons, highly recommendable. Not so much fun in the wet or on snow. Smiley 

    That is where the fun is Smiley


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    J.Seven:
    RC:
     

    Fun to drive, amazing performance and engine (I had the Performance Package version + LSD), lots of room for four persons, highly recommendable. Not so much fun in the wet or on snow. Smiley 

    That is where the fun is Smiley

    On public roads? Not really. Smiley


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Porker:

    I would suggest him not to listen to your advice... You think an RS5 is boring and uncool, and recommend an S5 instead because it's turbo'ed? yes

    I recommend an S5 because the performance will probably be about the same (possibly even better considering it's a generation newer), has the new virtual cockpit and more modern design, and I think an RS5 is just as boring as an S5, so why pay a premium for an older, worse car?

    If you're just going to get a meh car, why pay a premium for a slightly less but still meh car? Couldn't care less about NA vs Turbo since neither is anything to write home about these days. If I'm not mistaken, the only 4.2l V8 is similar to the one from the original Audi R8, and though it's improved and that wasn't a bad engine by any means, it also suffered from things like carbon build up. That general engine is just old.


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Sporty and cool?....Volvo stationwagen (*...drops the mic and walks out)

    ​​​​​​smiley


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Carlos from Spain:

    Sporty and cool?....Volvo stationwagen (*...drops the mic and walks out)

    ​​​​​​smiley

    SmileySmileySmiley

     


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    What about BMW M2?

    RS5 has a nice motor but the car is quite heavy and doesn't utilize it as well as it could.  That said, if he wants an RS5, let him get it.  Everyone has their own priorities and needs to get what makes THEM happy, you YOU.


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Well, I know for a fact he's going to get bored with it. He's always wanted an exotic and I've let him drive mine before, but he can't afford one in China because they are like 2x as much as the US. He's going to spend $90K on a used 2014 RS5 hoping it's sweet when I already know that any cool factor it has is going to wear off in like a few months.

    The RS5 is not a substitute for a Huracan or R8 or something like that. It's just an slightly aggressive normal car that's really not even that fast these days.

    I want him to get a cheap Honda or something like that and just wait for cooler cars to come down in price or something. Why lose money depreciating a en expensive meh car instead of saving and waiting for a cool one to get into your price range?

    I'm pretty sure he's going to lose like 15-20K on this car within a year since it's just going to get older and the next gen is coming out soon.


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    If he wants something more exotic, how about a Lotus Evora?


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    I've just suggested he wait for the RS3 -- 400 hp, 350 lbft, lighter/smaller than the RS5, updated interior with virtual cockpit, semi-autonomous driving up to 40mph from shit traffic in China, and since it's only a 2.5L engine, taxes will be lower and hence a lower price.

    Other than the sound of the NA V8 (which will be so so in a coupe compared to the R8), the new RS3 should be an all around better car with better performance too.
     


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    noone1:

    I've just suggested he wait for the RS3 -- 400 hp, 350 lbft, lighter/smaller than the RS5, updated interior with virtual cockpit, semi-autonomous driving up to 40mph from shit traffic in China, and since it's only a 2.5L engine, taxes will be lower and hence a lower price.

    Other than the sound of the NA V8 (which will be so so in a coupe compared to the R8), the new RS3 should be an all around better car with better performance too.
     

    The new RS3 is a nice choice. Had the chance to drive one for half an hour and it feels powerful as hell and sounds very nice (for a turbo). Performance is amazing for such a small looking car, it has been recently reviewed at 3.7 sec. from 0-100 kph and 13.0 seconds from 0-200 kph, which is quite impressive for such a car in this price range.


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    DaveGordon:

    If he wants something more exotic, how about a Lotus Evora?

    Apparently you didn't get the part with the backseats? Smiley


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    vantagesc:

    What about BMW M2?

    RS5 has a nice motor but the car is quite heavy and doesn't utilize it as well as it could.  That said, if he wants an RS5, let him get it.  Everyone has their own priorities and needs to get what makes THEM happy, you YOU.

    The new M2 is nice but waiting time is extreme (not sure about China) in Germany, it is sold out for almost 18 months or so. Some cars are sold over here at a premium, usually they go for 75k EUR or so. Not exactly a bargain. 


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    noone1:

    I've just suggested he wait for the RS3 -- 400 hp, 350 lbft, lighter/smaller than the RS5, updated interior with virtual cockpit, semi-autonomous driving up to 40mph from shit traffic in China, and since it's only a 2.5L engine, taxes will be lower and hence a lower price.

    Other than the sound of the NA V8 (which will be so so in a coupe compared to the R8), the new RS3 should be an all around better car with better performance too.
     

    Another option, if he is not totally committed to EU origin, is the Lexus RC F ( which is not, as rumoured, named after a famous forum moderator).  I have driven the sedan with this V8 - IMO it is at least as good as Audi's V8.  Interior is a matter of taste but Lexus interiors are often optimized for Asian owners, not for EU where they will never sell in numbers. 


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Not sure but are Japanese cars considered to be cool in China? yes I kind of have my doubts. angry


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Brand doesn't matter. Just wants a cool car. If Hyundai made an Aventador, it would still be cool. I'm not convinced there are any cool cars in his price range. Used 911 would be my choice, but his GF doesn't look the back seats.


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    noone1:

    Brand doesn't matter. Just wants a cool car. If Hyundai made an Aventador, it would still be cool. I'm not convinced there are any cool cars in his price range. Used 911 would be my choice, but his GF doesn't look the back seats.

    Of course brands matter. In Germany, nobody would consider a Japanese car to be cool (unless it is an old NSX/Datsun 240Z or a Nissan GT-R maybe). No Hyundai, Dacia, Opel, Smart, Skoda, etc. would be considered cool over here either, so brand matters. Often!


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Everyone in Germany would rather have a Hyundai Aventador than an Audi R8...

    The only reason those brands aren't cool is because they don't make any cool cars. Audis still aren't cool cars anywhere in the world, Germany include, but the R8 is cool to most people.


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    noone1:

    Everyone in Germany would rather have a Hyundai Aventador than an Audi R8...

    Hyundai would never make an Aventador...same as you never voting for Trump. Smiley


    The only reason those brands aren't cool is because they don't make any cool cars. Audis still aren't cool cars anywhere in the world, Germany include, but the R8 is cool to most people.

    Actually, the RS models are considered to be quite cool in Germany and many other countries. Smiley


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    RC:
    noone1:

    Everyone in Germany would rather have a Hyundai Aventador than an Audi R8...

    Hyundai would never make an Aventador...same as you never voting for Trump. Smiley


    The only reason those brands aren't cool is because they don't make any cool cars. Audis still aren't cool cars anywhere in the world, Germany include, but the R8 is cool to most people.

    Actually, the RS models are considered to be quite cool in Germany and many other countries. Smiley

    In North Italy Audis are considered cooler than Mercedes and BMW


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Surprise surprise. He's bored with it. Just like I said. It's been like a month and he already said the car is boring.

    High-end, non-exotics are just a waste of money.


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    noone1:

    Surprise surprise. He's bored with it. Just like I said. It's been like a month and he already said the car is boring.

    High-end, non-exotics are just a waste of money.

    I agree.

    I am going to test drive an M6 in a few days as I've been offered the opportunity but I expect the M6 to be boring, even if fast. We will see I guess.


    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    noone1:

    Surprise surprise. He's bored with it. Just like I said. It's been like a month and he already said the car is boring.

    High-end, non-exotics are just a waste of money.

    He got bored with the RS5 after a month only? Wow.

    How about a C63 AMG Coupe S then? 

    He can't get supercar fun with a very limited budget, just not possible.

    I would have chosen the RS3 anyway...or the new TT RS.


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    I had a look at the new TT RS yesterday . It is a very impressive car !  Just a little bit small to me, but otherwise it would be on top of my fun DD cars  and the performance for the money is fantastic . 

    The C63 AMG would also be on my list but only  if in AWD . 


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    Re: My friend wants a 2014 Rs5. I told him it's old and shitty. What else should he buy?

    Gnil:

    I had a look at the new TT RS yesterday . It is a very impressive car !  Just a little bit small to me, but otherwise it would be on top of my fun DD cars  and the performance for the money is fantastic . 

    The C63 AMG would also be on my list but only  if in AWD . 

    Smiley


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