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    Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

    Maybe McLaren will actually win a race this year, but they still have to make the car run for more than 10 laps before breaking down

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    Fernando Alonso threw down the gauntlet to his F1 title rivals as the first major test of 2007 got underway at Valencia on Tuesday.
    The Spaniard lapped nearly 1s faster than Kimi Raikkonen



    http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=38375

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    temm said:
    Maybe McLaren will actually win a race this year, but they still have to make the car run for more than 10 laps before breaking down





    Also, Alonso had an incident with Ferrari's test driver who was going significantly slower but would not move out of the way and let him pass, on a training session, so Alonso tired of it made a "Schummacher" style pass and threw him out of the road. The test driver got to "walk" back to the pits

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    Carlos from Spain said:
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    temm said:
    Maybe McLaren will actually win a race this year, but they still have to make the car run for more than 10 laps before breaking down





    Also, Alonso had an incident with Ferrari's test driver who was going significantly slower but would not move out of the way and let him pass, on a training session, so Alonso tired of it made a "Schummacher" style pass and threw him out of the road. The test driver got to "walk" back to the pits




    Yes, got to get the most out of that engine before it explodes . I really wonder how reliable the McLarens are going to be this year.

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    Carlos, that Ferrari test driver - was it Luca Badoer? I would have thought he's much too experienced to be doing something so childish. How pathetic!

    Yeah temm, I was pleasantly surprised to read this story. I tell you guys, last couple of years, I've grown fed up with hearing nothing but the French and Italian national anthems. Hopefully, we'll hear the British one soon

    But like Carlos said, McLaren have forgotten how to finish races

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    easy_rider911 said:

    Yeah temm, I was pleasantly surprised to read this story. I tell you guys, last couple of years, I've grown fed up with hearing nothing but the French and Italian national anthems. Hopefully, we'll hear the British one soon

    But like Carlos said, McLaren have forgotten how to finish races



    Yes, but have you seen their new factory and motorhome(s)?
    The best in the business....

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    Yep - I have but I wouldn't call their Woking HQ a 'factory'. It looks more like a hi-tech science institute on a university campus. Curved, futuristic building with floor to ceiling glass, grassy hills, lakes etc. Really impressive stuff!

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    My point exactly, maybe they should have spent more money on engine reliability then on grassy hills and lakes

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    But the engine comes from Mercedes I think poor old Norbert Haug used up all his excuses last year apologising for the reliability of that Merc engine...

    At least one thing's for sure, after last year's luck, McLaren can only go up!

    It's interesting though that Kimi had to stop testing at Valencia after around 47 laps with an oil leak. Seems like his bad luck is following him to Ferrari

    I just realised I'm in Seville on the weekend of the Australian GP. Great....better set the video to tape it

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    Carlos from Spain said:
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    temm said:
    Maybe McLaren will actually win a race this year, but they still have to make the car run for more than 10 laps before breaking down





    Also, Alonso had an incident with Ferrari's test driver who was going significantly slower but would not move out of the way and let him pass, on a training session, so Alonso tired of it made a "Schummacher" style pass and threw him out of the road. The test driver got to "walk" back to the pits



    Hmmm, I guess Ferrari will take "revenge" during the F1-season.

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    easy_rider911 said:
    But the engine comes from Mercedes I think poor old Norbert Haug used up all his excuses last year apologising for the reliability of that Merc engine...




    If you want to be a nitpicker, the engines used to come from Ilmor, or Mercedes-Ilmor after MB bought the company

    But I think we can agree that El Ron (Dennis) maybe hasn't focused on the really important things the last few years, like making the car work and go fast, hopefully at the same time

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    Ilmor - gosh, now there's a name from the past Great memory temm!

    For sure temm, McLaren has been going through one of its worst periods in recent memory IMO. And yes, you're right, it has felt like McLaren has taken its eye off the ball. Maybe this year, we'll see a comeback.

    I am wondering about Renault. I think they are going to struggle really really badly this year. The pressure will just keep ratcheting up with each race that they don't win. Unfortunately, IMO their drivers just aren't going to deliver.

    I think BMW and Honda could be dark horses...Toyota and Williams IMO will continue to disappoint.

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    easy_rider911 said:
    Carlos, that Ferrari test driver - was it Luca Badoer?



    That was the guy! unfortunately Alonso had to go back to the pits afterwards. But then went back out. I can already see the sparks flying in this coming season between McLaren and Ferrari

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    Rossi said:Hmmm, I guess Ferrari will take "revenge" during the F1-season.



    Kimi is a quiet one but Massa will gladly pick up that glove fight! fight! fight!

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    easy_rider911 said:
    I am wondering about Renault. I think they are going to struggle really really badly this year. The pressure will just keep ratcheting up with each race that they don't win. Unfortunately, IMO their drivers just aren't going to



    The Renautls were 1,3 off Alonso's lap time. Fisichella is disapointing, seems Briatore told him to shape up yesterday, and today turns out that Nelson Picket posted better laps than Fisico. Which is good news IMO, I like to see younger drivers doing well, and puts Fisico is a weaker position to be the main Renault driver.

    Interestingly I believe Alonso was the driver that did most laps, somtehing like 120 and 1500km in these two days, and the McLaren wasn't charcoal at the end of the day, so maybe there is hope and things are changing. They were the fastest and ran the farthest today. Also Alonso is notorious for being able to manage very well the engine and race pace during the races so its a good combination.

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    Carlos from Spain said:
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    Rossi said:Hmmm, I guess Ferrari will take "revenge" during the F1-season.



    Kimi is a quiet one but Massa will gladly pick up that glove fight! fight! fight!



    Yeah, it could be an interesting season...

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

    Today, Wednesday, Alonso is fastest again raking up 76 more laps with the McLaren. But this time Fisico stepped up to the plate and managed 2nd only 0.15 behind Alonso, though had to retire in the end with a broken the engine. Kimi was overall 4th at 0.3sec form Alonso.

    Next week we will have the teams testing at Jerez

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

    I'm shaking my hands!

    I feel a nice battle will take place this year (of course, if reliability of Maclaren allows)...can't wait to the first GP.

    The "pieces" are all in very interesting positions!

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    Byron said:
    I'm shaking my hands!

    I feel a nice battle will take place this year (of course, if reliability of Maclaren allows)...can't wait to the first GP.

    The "pieces" are all in very interesting positions!



    IMO F1 cars should be toughened up a bit and drivers drive more like they do in NASCAR (without the oval stuff). That would make for so much fun .

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    Crash said:
    IMO F1 cars should be toughened up a bit and drivers drive more like they do in NASCAR (without the oval stuff). That would make for so much fun .



    I think the F1 cars should have to incorporate all around bumpers-defenses like Go-Karts, around the wheels as well, and have them "duke" it out in the corners unfortunately the F1 drivers today are nothing like those brave souls of the past (drum brakes, no seatbelts, leather helmets, doing 120mph on B roads), today they are bunch overpaid spoiled sissies...

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

    As the saying goes: When the green flag drops the BS stops!

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    Carlos from Spain said:
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    Crash said:
    IMO F1 cars should be toughened up a bit and drivers drive more like they do in NASCAR (without the oval stuff). That would make for so much fun .



    I think the F1 cars should have to incorporate all around bumpers-defenses like Go-Karts, around the wheels as well, and have them "duke" it out in the corners unfortunately the F1 drivers today are nothing like those brave souls of the past (drum brakes, no seatbelts, leather helmets, doing 120mph on B roads), today they are bunch overpaid spoiled sissies...



    Great minds think alike, it would seem . Think Villeneuve-Arnoux at Dijon in 1979.

    Youtube

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

    Crash, amazing footage. I still love seeing that!

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    But this time Fisico stepped up to the plate and managed 2nd only 0.15 behind Alonso, though had to retire in the end with a broken the engine.



    I'm a Fisico fan myself, and every time he does something good, his car blows up. So many times in the past couple of years, if he was doing better or maybe upstaging Alonso, he would instantly have reliability problems. Kinda makes you wonder

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    Kimi is The Man!
    Fisichella and Biaggi have same problems: they always said that the car(or bike)had some problems etc etc....Kovalainen will be faster than Fisico

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    Dr. Phil said:
    Crash, amazing footage. I still love seeing that!



    Makes two of us .

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    Crash said:
    Quote:
    Carlos from Spain said:
    Quote:
    Crash said:
    IMO F1 cars should be toughened up a bit and drivers drive more like they do in NASCAR (without the oval stuff). That would make for so much fun .



    I think the F1 cars should have to incorporate all around bumpers-defenses like Go-Karts, around the wheels as well, and have them "duke" it out in the corners unfortunately the F1 drivers today are nothing like those brave souls of the past (drum brakes, no seatbelts, leather helmets, doing 120mph on B roads), today they are bunch overpaid spoiled sissies...



    Great minds think alike, it would seem . Think Villeneuve-Arnoux at Dijon in 1979.

    Youtube



    Now THATS what I'm talking about! thanks for that footage
    Makes current F1 look like a parody.

    Re: Alonso fires first salvo at Valencia

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    911fan said:
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    But this time Fisico stepped up to the plate and managed 2nd only 0.15 behind Alonso, though had to retire in the end with a broken the engine.



    I'm a Fisico fan myself, and every time he does something good, his car blows up. So many times in the past couple of years, if he was doing better or maybe upstaging Alonso, he would instantly have reliability problems. Kinda makes you wonder



    Are you saying that Fisichella had zero reliability problems in last two years, because I cant remember when he was upstaging Alonso ?

     
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